Power limits i7 10700

[unclewebb]

Set the PL1 and PL2 power limits sky high like I do.

 

[Zakaru91]

Set the PL1 and PL2 power limits sky high like I do.

I set your parameters on pl1 and pl2 and launched cinebench and jumped out pl2 in the limit reasons, the result of the bench I can not evaluate it because there are no comparisons with builds similar to mine. Also I would like to know if the check on speed shift is to be selected

 

[unclewebb]

You have to look at Limit Reasons while your CPU is loaded running Cinebench. Does PL2 light up red while running Cinebench? That indicates that power limit throttling is in progress. Take a screenshot of ThrottleStop with Limit Reasons open when throttling is in progress. Does ThrottleStop show the 46.00 multiplier while running Cinebench? Does it show this until Cinebench finishes or is there throttling while this test is running?

You can also turn on the Log File option when testing so you have a record of your CPU performance. The log will show any reasons for throttling. When finished testing, exit ThrottleStop so it can finalize your log file. It will be located in your ThrottleStop / Logs folder. Attach a log file to your next post if you want me to have a look at it.

I would like to know if the check on speed shift is to be selected

If you want ThrottleStop to send the Speed Shift Min and Max values to the processor then you should check the Speed Shift box.

the result of the bench I can not evaluate it

I have a 10 core 10850K. I will use msconfig to disable 2 cores and I will run Cinebench at 4600 MHz so you have a fair number to compare to. If your computer is not throttling, a 10700 should run at 4600 MHz for the entire Cinebench test.

Edit - Here is what you want to see while the test is running and just finishing up.
All threads are reporting a multiplier of 46.00 and all threads are at 100.0% CPU usage.

A 10700 should be able to score close to 4833 points if there is no throttling.
Your score indicates either throttling or a lot of stuff running in the background on your computer.

 

[Zakaru91]

You have to look at Limit Reasons while your CPU is loaded running Cinebench. Does PL2 light up red while running Cinebench? That indicates that power limit throttling is in progress. Take a screenshot of ThrottleStop with Limit Reasons open when throttling is in progress. Does ThrottleStop show the 46.00 multiplier while running Cinebench? Does it show this until Cinebench finishes or is there throttling while this test is running?

You can also turn on the Log File option when testing so you have a record of your CPU performance. The log will show any reasons for throttling. When finished testing, exit ThrottleStop so it can finalize your log file. It will be located in your ThrottleStop / Logs folder. Attach a log file to your next post if you want me to have a look at it.


If you want ThrottleStop to send the Speed Shift Min and Max values to the processor then you should check the Speed Shift box.


I have a 10 core 10850K. I will use msconfig to disable 2 cores and I will run Cinebench at 4600 MHz so you have a fair number to compare to. If your computer is not throttling, a 10700 should run at 4600 MHz for the entire Cinebench test.

Edit - Here is what you want to see while the test is running and just finishing up.
All threads are reporting a multiplier of 46.00 and all threads are at 100.0% CPU usage.

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A 10700 should be able to score close to 4833 points if there is no throttling.
Your score indicates either throttling or a lot of stuff running in the background on your computer.

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Ok I carried out the cinebench test keeping an eye on the limit reasons and pl1 and pl2 have never turned red while edp other constantly in red, placed the throttlestop log file but the eight cores during cinebench are almost always constant at 3.8ghz well away from 4.6ghz I think the reason is that the processor goes well beyond the power limits I saw something like 225w somewhere around the internet for the 10700.
Thank you very much for the time you are dedicating to me

 

[unclewebb]

the processor goes well beyond the power limits

The turbo power limits are fine. You do not have a power limit throttling problem. You have a EDP OTHER throttling problem. The manufacturer has locked both IccMax and Power Limit 4. These are the two main things that control EDP OTHER throttling. There is no way to get rid of this type of throttling when the BIOS has locked both IccMax and Power Limit 4.

Power limits i7 10700

Hi, I recently purchased a pre-assembled desktop equipped with i7 10700 but when installing throttlestop in the limits window I found power limits on cores and rings. I bought the pc because I paid little more than the selling price of only processor and gpu but this problem demoralizes me. I...

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The end result is a CPU that throttles along at 3.8 GHz instead of running at 4.6 GHz. On any decent aftermarket board from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, etc., all of the various throttling limits could be disabled and your 10700 could run at the full 4.6 GHz. This is why it is best to avoid buying pre-assembled computers. You can never be sure what limitations are hiding inside.

Cinebench R20

4600 MHz = 4833
3800 MHz = 4833 X (3800 / 4600) = 3992

Now you know why your Cinebench R20 score is under 4000. CPU throttling.

 

[Zakaru91]

The turbo power limits are fine. You do not have a power limit throttling problem. You have a EDP OTHER throttling problem. The manufacturer has locked both IccMax and Power Limit 4. These are the two main things that control EDP OTHER throttling. There is no way to get rid of this type of throttling when the BIOS has locked both IccMax and Power Limit 4.

Power limits i7 10700

Hi, I recently purchased a pre-assembled desktop equipped with i7 10700 but when installing throttlestop in the limits window I found power limits on cores and rings. I bought the pc because I paid little more than the selling price of only processor and gpu but this problem demoralizes me. I...

www.techpowerup.com

The end result is a CPU that throttles along at 3.8 GHz instead of running at 4.6 GHz. On any decent aftermarket board from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, etc., all of the various throttling limits could be disabled and your 10700 could run at the full 4.6 GHz. This is why it is best to avoid buying pre-assembled computers. You can never be sure what limitations are hiding inside.

Cinebench R20

4600 MHz = 4833
3800 MHz = 4833 X (3800 / 4600) = 3992

Now you know why your Cinebench R20 score is under 4000. CPU throttling.

I gave in to buy this preassembled because of the 1k price for what seemed reasonable unfortunately the video cards are not less than € 600 otherwise I would have assembled it myself, I saw that with € 140 you can take it home a motherboard z590m from gigabite probably this and a more performing heatsink would solve my problems reaching a total cost of not even 1200 € seems good for these specifications, what do you think?

 

[unclewebb]

what do you think?

You should be able to sell the motherboard you have so the final cost might be even better. GPU prices are still insane in a lot of markets or not available. You are not the only person that has had to buy a pre-assembled computer just to get a GPU at a reasonable price.