Project: The Ultimate AGP System (PC-A05FNB/HD3850)

[TRWOV]

The P4P800-VM can be flashed with the SE bios for full FSB control.

If you don't want to flash the bios SetFSB worked fine on mine.

 

[Jesse Ricard]

awesome ill have to try that though i just found an asrock dual core vsta on local classifieds im going to buy. w the coolermaster v8 i just increased the clock to 18.
i swapped out the cooler master V8 for a more period correct zalman fs-c77 fatality i got super cheap its not quiet enough for the pentium extreme w its dual prescott cores(66* on occt after 3 mins) lol looks great though.

 

[Jesse Ricard]

got an asrock 4core dual sata2 tonight redoing the extreme AGP tonight as well.
now its :
ASRock 4core dual sata2
Intel Pentium extreme 840 @3.8ghz
2GB OCZ platinum ddr2 800 @ 667mhz (2x 1 gb) dual channel
ASUS EAH 3650 512 silent AGP with hd6770 Direct CUii cooler
seagate barracuda 7200.10 160 gb (was supposed to be 2 in raid one has died)
Soundblaster Audigy 2 pci
Coolermaster V8 lga775 heatsync
Coolermaster 550W psu
Antec Sonata I case

 

[Jesse Ricard]

so with the new board, ddr2, and the hd 3650 the extreme agp scores 7246 on 3dmark 05 and 451 on nova bench vs 6842 on 3dmark 05 and 432 on nova bench with the asus p5p800-vm /7800gs/ddr400 yet to run the 7800gs in the system
system clocks are: cpu 3.4ghz(17Xclock), gpu 900mhz/ mem 555mhz ddr2, system ram 667mhz? ( weird readings on cpuz, bios says 667)
going to test this system with an e6600 cpu later

 

[mingqianglee]

hi guys, 4 years passed, does anyone have drivers for AM2NF3 on windows 7 ?

 

[xBruce88x]

Best bet would be to "force" install drivers from XP x64, and even that is an unsigned beta. nVidia didn't even support it for Vista let alone 7...they just moved on to the next version, tho I don't think nforce 4 was much better

Download the drivers, extract, and then manually guide the hardware install wizard to the driver

Same can be done with 32 bit/ x86 version if you opt for that, just use XP 32 bit drivers. Just know max usable system ram is 3.5 gb... So you could have 4gb physically install but only 3.5 is usable. I think gpu memory might lower that more, can't remember specifics on that atm

I've done this so many times with old gpus on win 10 its hilarious that it works

 

[mingqianglee]

Best bet would be to "force" install drivers from XP x64, and even that is an unsigned beta. nVidia didn't even support it for Vista let alone 7...they just moved on to the next version, tho I don't think nforce 4 was much better

Download the drivers, extract, and then manually guide the hardware install wizard to the driver

Same can be done with 32 bit/ x86 version if you opt for that, just use XP 32 bit drivers. Just know max usable system ram is 3.5 gb... So you could have 4gb physically install but only 3.5 is usable. I think gpu memory might lower that more, can't remember specifics on that atm

I've done this so many times with old gpus on win 10 its hilarious that it works

thanks so much. can you please give me a link of the driver ? i am using AM2NF3 with ATI HD3850, i wanna use windows 7 64 bit, as i bought 4*4GB memory. just dont know how to make the agp card work ..

 

[agent_x007]

@mingqianglee Try this one : LINK.

 

[stinger608]

Thanks for that link @agent_x007 !!!!!!

If you don't mind, I'm going to put that link in the Nostalgic thread in the original post?

 

[mingqianglee]

@mingqianglee Try this one : LINK.

many thanks. i will have a try.

 

[xBruce88x]

thanks so much. can you please give me a link of the driver ? i am using AM2NF3 with ATI HD3850, i wanna use windows 7 64 bit, as i bought 4*4GB memory. just dont know how to make the agp card work ..

for the agp card to work you will need to also grab the agp GART drivers that go with the nforce drivers. those will also be from an older os most likely. what is the model of the motherboad and perhaps we can find a suitable driver? CPU-Z is a good way to identify it if you can't access its label. make sure you have the proper power connectors for the AGP 3850. In addition to the 12v wattage you want to also make sure the 5v and 3.3v wattage/amps aren't too low. older agp style systems used a bit more of the 3.3 and 5v rails than newer computer do today. Also, keep in mind you will need to get the AGP verson of the drivers and not the pcie version. the 3850 is natively a pci-e chip but for agp they put a pcix to agp bridge chip.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

For those wanting to run a HD4xxx AGP card on a ultimate AGP system, this is my story.
I once had a HD4650 AGP i wanted to use in a system (MSi Neo2 motherboard IIRC)
Now this card ran like crap, and at first I had no idea why. Maybe that's why I got this card so cheap.
Until I noticed specs on the box, that besides video it also had audio on it. Audio on AGP ???
Now AGP was a dedicated port for video. This audio device wanted to use the AGP bus too, contending with the video, which resulted in poor performance.
This got me thinking, if i could only change the BIOS. So I started collecting the tools for a BIOS mod.
Looking through the BIOS sections, i figured out that the AGP port only had 1 interrupt available, which is logical, because, until then, it only had 1 function, video.
Looking at other code in other sections, I was able to modify the BIOS so it could assign 2 interrupts to the AGP port.
Reassembled it all to a new BIOS-file, crossed my fingers and flashed the thing. (Now this looks like a simple job , but actually doing it, took me a while.)

Low and behold, this HD4650 now worked like a charm.

 

[xBruce88x]

the audio is often for the hdmi ports on the "newer" cards. or for going through the dvi connector and using a dvi to hdmi adapter that allows the audio to go through. i think it uses the analog signals that would normally be used for an old vga monitor for passthrough of audio when using the dvi to hdmi adaptor, though i'm not 100% sure on that. the fact you were having slowdowns/perf issues probably has something to do with the pcie to agp chip. in theory... that chip handles all communication between whats on the agp card and the agp bus so the bios should really only see it as a single device of sorts in terms of irq since there is only one pcix to agp chip. however that's still pretty cool you were able to address the issue in the via the bios instead.

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I remember I used the method in this other thread on TPU: ATI HD *AGP* card with HDMI audio problems? Read this!

 

[mingqianglee]

Guys, any one has a HIS HD3850 AGP to sell ? i really like it...

 

[phill]

@mingqianglee Try this one : LINK.

Downloaded them all!!

 

[phill]

Guys, any one has a HIS HD3850 AGP to sell ? i really like it...

@mingqianglee if you'd like something from our members or in general, please when you have access pop over to the Buy/Sale/Trade forum and don't forget you'll need a Heatware account if you haven't already got one

Linky to getting stuff or getting rid of stuff!!

Hope that helps

 

[mingqianglee]

@mingqianglee if you'd like something from our members or in general, please when you have access pop over to the Buy/Sale/Trade forum and don't forget you'll need a Heatware account if you haven't already got one

Linky to getting stuff or getting rid of stuff!!

Hope that helps

thanks～～～