Q6600 G0 - bad clocks off latest batches?

xu^ · May 5, 2008

updated ,seems at default it wasnt 100% stable

anyway this is wat im runnign atm,CPU was bought August 2007

Kursah · May 5, 2008

Well I started testing at a 333/800 divider, making for DDR960 speed. I'm slacking the timings for now, and increasing voltage to 2.15v...letting it run memtest all day while I'm at work...hopefully all goes well and I can start tuning timings down and see what results I get.

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Kursah · May 6, 2008

Hmm, well no dice on DDR960 speeds...I got settings that passed Memtest for 24 passes (about 12 hours worth, while I was at work)...but as soon as I booted into Vista, I'd get a reboot. Vista is a good stability tester since it requires stability, if you can't successfully keep Vista booted for more than 5 minutes on an OC, you still got tweaking to do.

I tired a number of things to no avail, the longest I could stay in V64 was about 4 minutes lol, no BSOD's, it'd just reboot. I'm assuming it's just too much load on this MB for a quad core PSU and OC'd memory, maybe just this particular OC'd memory...I could at least get DDR972 out of the same memory with my dual core, but that was a helluva fight, DDR960 was easy to attain though. I may try a higher FSB with the 1:1 ratio, but it seems to overstress this board when straying from that ratio.

I haven't given up hope yet, maybe I'm running out of juice, though I would think my HX520 should be plenty sufficient for the job. Someday I may have to try a 2x2GB DDR2 kit and see what I get...hell I may decide to see what I can get with 2x1GB for the hell of it.

I've been reading through this thread, which has surpassed 100 pages (though it's only like 6 posts a page lol), has some good info on the DFI LP P35 DK T2RS board, lots of different memory, cpu's, OC's, cooling, mods, all sorts of stuff.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/287202-dfi-lanparty-dk-p35-t2rs-thread.html

For now, I am back to my good ol' stable 3.6 CPU, DDR800 tuned settings, still rock stable and running good so no complaints over here!

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t_ski · May 6, 2008

Thanks for the link. I'm gonna check it out now.

I'm assuming most of the stability issue probably comes from using four sticks. Like you, I'm contemplating going with two sticks of 2GB each to see what it can do.

eidairaman1 · May 6, 2008

pure n simple, intel is reaching EOL of the 6600, the other CPU is the Q9300, which does overclock further and outperforms the 6600 easily.

Kursah · May 6, 2008

Yeah but really, who's gonna complain about 4 cores running @ 3.6? I won't, for gaming it's probably more than I'll need for years lol! Sure it takes 1.45v to get there, but my Xig takes care of the heat output!

Plus for the price I paid, I couldn't be happier, I reached my OC goal with stability. Sure some are having more issues, but even at 3.0-3.2, 4 cores at that speed should really be sufficient for any gaming rig...those that want high bench scores may need more, but beyond that for gaming, GPU power is where it's at.

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t_ski · May 6, 2008

These are supposed to do well in my DFI X38:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

TechnicalFreak · May 6, 2008

Are you saying that some of you have bought a CPU from Intel (expensive too) and it doesn't OC that good??
That's not good for Intel directly, right? I think their biggest consumer is you guys - the people who overclock.

Mussels · May 7, 2008

Kursah said:
Yeah but really, who's gonna complain about 4 cores running @ 3.6? I won't, for gaming it's probably more than I'll need for years lol! Sure it takes 1.45v to get there, but my Xig takes care of the heat output!

Plus for the price I paid, I couldn't be happier, I reached my OC goal with stability. Sure some are having more issues, but even at 3.0-3.2, 4 cores at that speed should really be sufficient for any gaming rig...those that want high bench scores may need more, but beyond that for gaming, GPU power is where it's at.

my reasons for starting this thread were the hordes of people lately saying they couldnt even pass 3.2 - i wanted to see if it was just noobs not knowing what they were doing, or an actual problem with the latest batches. We're definately seeing people with pack dates in 08 having worse OCing.

Technicalfreak: was that sarcasm? If not, we're a tiny majority - but we arent going to buy something that used to be good, if the same product with the same name is inferior now.

eidairaman1 · May 7, 2008

Kursah said:
Yeah but really, who's gonna complain about 4 cores running @ 3.6? I won't, for gaming it's probably more than I'll need for years lol! Sure it takes 1.45v to get there, but my Xig takes care of the heat output!

Plus for the price I paid, I couldn't be happier, I reached my OC goal with stability. Sure some are having more issues, but even at 3.0-3.2, 4 cores at that speed should really be sufficient for any gaming rig...those that want high bench scores may need more, but beyond that for gaming, GPU power is where it's at.

Most CPUs of today are very capable of Performance gains even at stock clocks. My case tho is i Play COD 4 Fine on a 1950 Pro and AXP-M 2500+ at 2200MHz, Also i think the reason the 6600s are getting worse is so they can Sell the Q9300 which is 1333 FSB and i believe cheaper than the 6600.

Kursah · May 8, 2008

Mussels said:
my reasons for starting this thread were the hordes of people lately saying they couldnt even pass 3.2 - i wanted to see if it was just noobs not knowing what they were doing, or an actual problem with the latest batches. We're definately seeing people with pack dates in 08 having worse OCing.

I've read around HardForum too and seen a few posts about users attaining 3.8 on a little over 1.45v, some hit 3.6 as a wall, on recently purchased and packed q6600s mind you...my high goal was 3.6, I hit it. I may try for more, but my RAM OC is my next goal. I don't think a 50% OC on a cheap Quad Core is a bad deal imo, but I know it's not as good as getting a little more. In the end, like said before not all chips are created exactly equal, and I'm sure with EOL coming, the ones that would normally not pass are probably being released, maybe I'm lucky...maybe I'm as hi as I can get with this quad, in the end, I don't care, I'm happy where it's at...really I could turn it down and probably still be fine in games for the next couple of years.

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Mussels · May 8, 2008

[h] is a good place to look.

Right not i'm undecided but i want this thread to continue, we need to know if they get worse, and the 'bad' batches continue

TeKniK · May 8, 2008

untill two days ago i couldnt get fully stable @ 3.51ghz on 1.47v, i looked at the voltage reference and changed it to .61x and changed voltage to 1.4250v no problams now at all @ 3.60ghz i even booted at 3.9 so it seems i have a good chip .. packdate of oct 07' core vid of 1.288v .. im gonna get a vapo chiller for my cooling then im gonna overclock its ass off i reckon i can hit 4.2ghz+ with it thats a 75%+ oc right now im well happy with this 50% oc of 3.60ghz 24/7.

two of my friends have struggled over 3ghz with chips bought jan and feb 08'...
it does indeed seem intel are selling the less powerful chips now demand is shifting to the 45nm's....

also my local computer hardware store namely "overclockers.co.uk" have stopped selling the guarunteed 3.3ghz+ bundle offers...EDIT*** it seems they have limited supply of the 3.30ghz chips
get em while they're hot *** lol

eidairaman1 · May 9, 2008

gonna have to start looking at Stepping Dates now just like the AXPs during the early A64 years, week 39 of 2003 the AXPs were being locked excluding the AXP-M drawback though is they may require less voltage but they face same thing as any CPU- overclocking mileage will vary.

Kursah · May 10, 2008

TeKniK said:
untill two days ago i couldnt get fully stable @ 3.51ghz on 1.47v, i looked at the voltage reference and changed it to .61x and changed voltage to 1.4250v no problams now at all @ 3.60ghz i even booted at 3.9 so it seems i have a good chip .. packdate of oct 07' core vid of 1.288v .. im gonna get a vapo chiller for my cooling then im gonna overclock its ass off i reckon i can hit 4.2ghz+ with it thats a 75%+ oc right now im well happy with this 50% oc of 3.60ghz 24/7.

Interesting results...may have to try a lower GTL....I'm using .63x...I don't really know if it is doing anything or not...but I'll give this a shot later and see if I can maybe snag a lower voltage or more stable voltage output. I'm good @ 3.6 with 1.45v though, my vid is a little higher at 1.30v, so maybe that translates to me needing more voltage...dunno.

But I'll have to give it a shot later (backing up my G/F's HDD's, getting ready to update her to C2D/P35/x1950xtx/DDR2 today from P4/i865pe/x850xt pe/DDR), I'll report back and letcha guys know if there's anything there for the newer chips.

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TeKniK · May 11, 2008

Kursah said:
Interesting results...may have to try a lower GTL....I'm using .63x...I don't really know if it is doing anything or not...but I'll give this a shot later and see if I can maybe snag a lower voltage or more stable voltage output. I'm good @ 3.6 with 1.45v though, my vid is a little higher at 1.30v, so maybe that translates to me needing more voltage...dunno.

But I'll have to give it a shot later (backing up my G/F's HDD's, getting ready to update her to C2D/P35/x1950xtx/DDR2 today from P4/i865pe/x850xt pe/DDR), I'll report back and letcha guys know if there's anything there for the newer chips.

to be totally honest i have no idea wat this does but it seems to have stabilized me. for me windows wouldnt boot @ .63x but .61x is all good. i just didnt know wat to try next so am glad i found my working combo, yes its total overkill for any apps or games out there but im good for a few years at least

hv43082 · May 11, 2008

t_ski said:
Please post your batch code from the CPU IHS or the label on the side of the box. Should be L7XXAXXX or L8XXBXXX or something similar.

Batch L739B919

Chewy · Jul 27, 2008

Nitro-Max said:
I actually managed to boot to windows on just 1.110v today lol @stock speed.

my vids only 1.2750v i think i got a cherry picked quad 1.360v for 3.6ghz

im seeing alot of quads needing 1.5v to get 3.6ghz lately with vids of 1.350v

ive still got 15c overclocking room left on air!!

So I take it it was not stable? I'm going for low voltage now (used to not want my chip seeing over 60c). So far Im at 1.1625 400x7 2.8ghz, my vdimm is 1.25.

Im not sure about the batch number but I can find out when I install my water cooling. Im just going to install a cpu loop for now but I still have the gear for 2 separate loops, gpu and cpu.

I bought this chip like last November.

Mussels · Jul 27, 2008

i've started seeing reports lately that good clocks are coming out again. 3.8GHz is still not happening on air, but they've gone from 3-3.2GHz average back to 3.5-3.6GHz.

It may have been a temporary thing.

Chewy · Jul 27, 2008

cool, maybe they finished with the "old" silicones bottom of the barrel so to speak. so far 31 mins and no errors with Orthos.

I think updating my mobo bios might of helped me, I remember not being able to undervolt anywhere near this much without errors happening right away..

Pixelated · Jul 28, 2008

I bought my Q6600 G0 in December and it clocked extremely well. I had it up to 4.1Ghz with 1.6v under water. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=321578

Worked flawlessly until my 680i took it to the grave with it.

mitsirfishi · Jul 30, 2008

im still having a tinkle with mine trying to find why it keeps shutting off with my asus p5e tried everything to keep it stable had a look on the box mine is '08 aswell 28th feb... which i brought in march 3.42 at 1.472v so far 3.6 i can bench on all takes time

yogurt_21 · Jul 30, 2008

eidairaman1 said:
Most CPUs of today are very capable of Performance gains even at stock clocks. My case tho is i Play COD 4 Fine on a 1950 Pro and AXP-M 2500+ at 2200MHz, Also i think the reason the 6600s are getting worse is so they can Sell the Q9300 which is 1333 FSB and i believe cheaper than the 6600.

q9300 is a pos and no it doesn't clock further than the q6600. well maybe these late batch ones but it has less cache 6mb l2 vs 8mb l2 on the q6600, a super low multiplier of 7.5 which means to hit 3.5GHZ you need aboard that will do 500fsb on a quad, which isn't your run of the mill board (though the biostar p45's seem to easily enough) tack that all onto the fact that it's more expensive than the q6600 and the q6700. and you've got a pos cpu.

but at a slightly higher cost than the q6700 it makes no sense whatsoever and whoever buys one is wasting time and money. the q6700 doenst seem to be suffering from these batch issues and will clock to 3.6GHZ on stock air, 4GHZ on decent air. decent water ~4.5GHZ no q9300 will match that, and the q9450 even struggles to.

Chewy · Jul 30, 2008

Seems the batch issues are done now, someone recently bought a q6600 and it clocks real well.

Well I have 2.8ghz Orthos stable with only 1.1500v. I think thats pretty good maybe I can get 4.0ghz with my Swiftech Apogee GT block and 240mm rad? I'll be installing it in one of the weeks to come. (1st WC'in install for me).

erocker · Jul 30, 2008

Chewy said:
Seems the batch issues are done now, someone recently bought a q6600 and it clocks real well.

Well I have 2.8ghz Orthos stable with only 1.1500v. I think thats pretty good maybe I can get 4.0ghz with my Swiftech Apogee GT block and 240mm rad? I'll be installing it in one of the weeks to come. (1st WC'in install for me).

You should have no problems hitting 4ghz!

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