R9 290-290X owners thread

[R-T-B]

Same criteria you originally stated when you said it would. Nothing.
Oh yeah apart from, I looked at the requirements on the manufacturers site and they said a 750W PSU.

Take it easy guys...

I ran an r9 290x on a 550w PSU once, decent one too, but when overclocking it the overload would trip. This WAS on an i7 990x but that still shows we are talking borderline here. I would not get less than a 600w personally.

 

[heky]

Take it easy guys...

I ran an r9 290x on a 550w PSU once, decent one too, but when overclocking it the overload would trip. This WAS on an i7 990x but that still shows we are talking borderline here. I would not get less than a 600w personally.

Sure, a 990x (oc?) and a 290x oc-ed. But he has a new i5 with a 290 non x and as he said he will not be overclocking.

 

[Vayra86]

Sure, a 990x (oc?) and a 290x oc-ed. But he has a new i5 with a 290 non x and as he said he will not be overclocking.

Still, running a PSU at 90%+ of its max output won't be adding to longevity and it SURELY won't help with noise. If you are in the market for a new PSU, get some headroom. Even if only for adding drives, fans and other stuff, or if you do get the overclocking itch. Why not? 500w or 650w does not even have to translate to a difference in price and if there is any, it's gonna be 5-10 bucks.

With PSU it is always a really a good idea to have headroom and have its typical load be no higher than around 80%. Most PSU's are most efficient in the 60-80% bracket as well, and it will greatly reduce fan noise (in many systems the PSU is actually the loudest component believe it or not).

Last but not least, PSU's can lose up to 20% of their max output over time and this process is accelerated by using it at max output ALL the time.

 

[heky]

Still, running a PSU at 90%+ of its max output won't be adding to longevity and it SURELY won't help with noise. If you are in the market for a new PSU, get some headroom. Even if only for adding drives, fans and other stuff, or if you do get the overclocking itch. Why not? 500w or 650w does not even have to translate to a difference in price and if there is any, it's gonna be 5-10 bucks.

With PSU it is always a really a good idea to have headroom and have its typical load be no higher than around 80%. Most PSU's are most efficient in the 60-80% bracket as well, and it will greatly reduce fan noise (in many systems the PSU is actually the loudest component believe it or not).

Last but not least, PSU's can lose up to 20% of their max output over time and this process is accelerated by using it at max output ALL the time.

Sure, but that is not the point here. He is not buying a new Psu, but asked if his Psu was enough or if he should buy a different gpu instead. With his config and without oc, he will never go over 40A on the 12v rail in any real world situation.

 

[R-T-B]

I'm sure what he asked is possible but he should know what the repercussions might be (noise and shorter PSU longevity).

 

[Tallencor]

I don't think I could have a 290x for very long without the urge to push the clocks. It'd be like trying to not have that 9th beer. Impossible.

 

[fullinfusion]

^
What he said, about the beer lol

I own a 290x and a non x in cross fire and a decent oc on the cpu.. I think you'll be fine but milage will vary... I use a watt meter and in some games I disable crossfire and still see at times the meter hitting 538ish watts but most of the time on one card its about 380ish..

I'm not sure what PSU turbo has or I missed it during the read but for what its worth go for it... Or like others said wait for a few months and see what new cards AMD bring out.. Maybe this time they'll get the tdp down somewhat.

 

[buildzoid]

No, it won't!

yes it will I run a 4.9Ghz FX6350(well into the 200W range) and a 1165/1450 R9 290(at least 300W) of a 620W PSU so a 500W will handle a stock i5 and stock R9 290X

 

[AsRock]

No, it won't!

It wont be if he does stress tests like with OCCT ( 450w ), if gaming power usage is about 200-380w total system. although i don't like cutting it that close my self

 

[GreiverBlade]

Oh yeah apart from, I looked at the requirements on the manufacturers site and they said a 750W PSU.

which is total BS ... what manufacturer recommend is only to make you shell out more cash ... a 290 CFX could be hold by a 750w
for instance i don't need to swap PSU to a beefier model if i want to go CFX, even with my 4690K OC'ed

another example was a SLI configuration i ran on a 700w 80+gold PSU from InWin (Commander III Desert Fox) a Xeon E3-1275v2, basically a i7-3770 at base frequencies of a i7-3770K, (a i5-2400 in the 1st time) and 2 ASUS GTX 580 Matrix Platinum and even OC'ed 900/1050 instead of 816/1002 no situation could bring it to the ground (game synthetic or whatever i ran on it.) and ASUS recommended a 750w PSU for 1 (one) Matrix non OC'ed.

It wont be if he does stress tests like with OCCT ( 450w ), if gaming power usage is about 200-380w total system. although i don't like cutting it that close my self

as long as he doesn't use Kombustor/FurMark ... he's fine ... xD

basic 290X and regular 4690K @4.6 but he talk about a 290 so 2nd option

290X
Minimum PSU Wattage:530 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage: *

290
Minimum PSU Wattage:480 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage: *

non CPU OC
Minimum PSU Wattage:465 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage: *

without pump and normal fan setup (aka not LED 120/140 X6 ) and no led stripe
Minimum PSU Wattage:396 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage: *

technically fine tho a 550w PSU would be a tad better (keep in mind it's @ 90% load and i use my rig as a reference : dual loop watercooling 5 120mm 1 140mm 1 LED stripe 1 SSD 2 HDD )

i would recommend a good 650w PSU like the Fractal Design Integra R2 650 (or 650M)

 

[AsRock]

Ever thought they say 750w due to cheap PSU's, although i still like a 200w head room for a few reasons.

EDIT: Even more so when the Newegg sales happen on PSU's picking up a Seasonic 750w PSU for 90-100$ is hard to say no too.

At this time they have a 650w for 90$ and a 750w for 119$ including the 10$ rebate.

 

[fullinfusion]

Ever thought they say 750w due to cheap PSU's, although i still like a 200w head room for a few reasons.

EDIT: Even more so when the Newegg sales happen on PSU's picking up a Seasonic 750w PSU for 90-100$ is hard to say no too.

At this time they have a 650w for 90$ and a 750w for 119$ including the 10$ rebate.

I like at least 400-500w head room hence a 1300 w PSU for what I gots

 

[GreiverBlade]

Ever thought they say 750w due to cheap PSU's, although i still like a 200w head room for a few reasons.

EDIT: Even more so when the Newegg sales happen on PSU's picking up a Seasonic 750w PSU for 90-100$ is hard to say no too.

At this time they have a 650w for 90$ and a 750w for 119$ including the 10$ rebate.

well yes ... as i always had good PSU (if we except a Chieftec and a Thermaltake ... who weren't too bad but not top notch either) tho most PSU calc webapp give a roughly accurate minimum and recommended wattage, ofc if you don't know what you have inside and maybe have a more power hungry setup then you might reach the "recommeded" crap made up by the manufacturer... but if you know what you have and have access to some webapp calc site (i use http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp almost every-time, updated recently tho ... ) then you can adapt your card/psu to what you can use within your range (price/ambition??? whatever)

i got my M12II 750 for 109chf (and it's the regular price where i am, in Switzerland they rarely do Sales or rebate... ) the Integra R2 i had was 85chf, the InWin IC III DF was 119, and the cheapest i have actually (but still hold fine) is a Cooler Master GX Lite 600w at 59chf

I like at least 400-500w head room hence a 1300 w PSU for what I gots

well i also like having a headroom, that's why i swapped my 650 for a 750 (iirc too much headroom in the end is just as bad as being over the limit... but i can't remember why and where i did see that sooo i might be totally wrong )

 

[Vayra86]

There is no such thing as too much headroom on a PSU, provided it is an 80+ one, they generally have good efficiency across the board starting at 20% load.

 

[GreiverBlade]

There is no such thing as too much headroom on a PSU, provided it is an 80+ one, they generally have good efficiency across the board starting at 20% load.

80+ is technically a gimmick. for the average user a good 80+ Bronze is as good as a 80+ Titanium, but yet @fullinfusion is not a average user so .... too much headroom is not so bad
(i meant 80+ rating above Bronze ofc ... some PSU are not 80+ but still rate 80+ efficiency, they just bypassed the certification for price lowering, good example is the GX Lite i have, it's a 86% rated but not a 80+ cert)

back to the 290

still doing fine at 1050/1350 (can do better since i lowered from 1130/1450 but not much improvement in games so ... pointless unless benching ) the best gift you can do to a 290 is a watercooling ... (specially if it's a ref design)


980? no need
damn AMD release the 3XX already even if the 380 would be a revised 290
so i can find a 2nd 290 ref at a cheap price ... oh wait they are already cheap even new ... a 290 at the price of a 760(cheapest one ofc)? dream come true ...

 

[The Mac]

thats actually not true.

if you check the requirements for each level of certification, you will notice that 80%+ load efficiency is higher with each level

More importantly, each subsequently higher level has better efficiency at 20-50% loads. Titanium actually goes down to 10% load efficiencies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

 

[fullinfusion]

80+ is technically a gimmick. for the average user a good 80+ Bronze is as good as a 80+ Titanium, but yet @fullinfusion is not a average user so .... too much headroom is not so bad
(i meant 80+ rating above Bronze ofc ... some PSU are not 80+ but still rate 80+ efficiency, they just bypassed the certification for price lowering, good example is the GX Lite i have, it's a 86% rated but not a 80+ cert)

back to the 290

still doing fine at 1050/1350 (can do better since i lowered from 1130/1450 but not much improvement in games so ... pointless unless benching ) the best gift you can do to a 290 is a watercooling ... (specially if it's a ref design)
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980? no need
damn AMD release the 3XX already even if the 380 would be a revised 290
so i can find a 2nd 290 ref at a cheap price ... oh wait they are already cheap even new ... a 290 at the price of a 760(cheapest one ofc)? dream come true ...

B E utifull!!! Nice cooler @GreiverBlade

And yes please, bring out these dam 390x and X2 cards already.... the cash is starting to burn a hole in my pocket

 

[GreiverBlade]

B E utifull!!! Nice cooler @GreiverBlade

And yes please, bring out these dam 390x and X2 cards already.... the cash is starting to burn a hole in my pocket

yeah and a "real" backplate ... not a gimmicky flimsy tiny sheet of metal like all the custom model with backplate
well not that a backplate is really useful on custom model who are under 1kg, but my Kryografics Hawaii weight 1kg, of nickel'ed copper, without the plate

1st part was : http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/r9-290-290x-owners-thread.193520/page-36#post-3196769
i remember because i posted just behind you and mentioned using Gelid GC-Extreme too

woops i remember your opinion about backplate
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/r9-290-290x-owners-thread.193520/page-37#post-3197109
yep backplate means nothing on custom design (at last my card dont sag at all ... )

390x2 aherm ... 395x2 ... naaahhh they will not launche it as the same time as the 3xx line,
tho depending the price of the ref model for the 380X if the layout doesn't change and my WB is compatible.... i might jump on it (and keep my 290 ref and cooler as the best card in the "bang for bucks" category)

 

[generaleramon]

My home made r9 290x liquid/air using thestock cooler and
Arctic Accelero Hybrid II-120 Liquid GPU Cooler
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pd0w5VUFyVDBDZUk/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pN1Nkd2VMNV9ab1k/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pY0lUTEszcklEVjg/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pTFBVSnlYc2N0LWM/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pUTVfMnU0NUZCdzQ/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pUlp4WWxIN0cwcWc/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pX3YyRTdNdVFad2s/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pUXJpTTZGSW93UmM/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pMmhiNlhTY2dGem8/edit?usp=docslist_api

Recipe:

-Put your stock cooler upside down in the oven at 250°. As soon as the welding melt,the copper cooler fall down.

-With a dremel cut the extra alluminium and allow the waterblock to fit

-Apply the thermalgrease and tighten the screws

- cut the plastic cover to fit the tubings

-Enjoy

Bad english sorry

 

[buildzoid]

My home made r9 290x liquid/air using thestock cooler and
Arctic Accelero Hybrid II-120 Liquid GPU Cooler
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pd0w5VUFyVDBDZUk/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pN1Nkd2VMNV9ab1k/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pY0lUTEszcklEVjg/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pTFBVSnlYc2N0LWM/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pUTVfMnU0NUZCdzQ/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pUlp4WWxIN0cwcWc/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pX3YyRTdNdVFad2s/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pUXJpTTZGSW93UmM/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRLVWjCmX0pMmhiNlhTY2dGem8/edit?usp=docslist_api

Recipe:

-Put your stock cooler upside down in the oven at 250°. As soon as the welding melt,the copper cooler fall down.

-With a dremel cut the extra alluminium and allow the waterblock to fit

-Apply the thermalgrease and tighten the screws

- cut the plastic cover to fit the tubings

-Enjoy

Bad english sorry

Nice. I generally just throw zipties at everything(1,2) that I want to mount incorrectly but this is much tidier.

 

[Aceman.au]

My best Firestrike score (so far) with my 2 290s in crossfire.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3898019

Update: After fixing my overheating issue I pulled a new best on Firestrike of 16067. But it didn't upload for some reason.

Spoiler: Large picture of them sitting inside case

 

[buildzoid]

Since we're doing FS scores here's mine. It's not 290X crossfire it's a R9 290X and an R9 290 in CrossfireX. It's also not a fully stable run because I've been having issues with 5Ghz again so I'm now running 4.8Ghz and I sold the R9 290 since I don't need it to play the games I play at 2560x1080p. I'll try bench the 290X alone sometime soon.

 

[Aceman.au]

Yeah if I could get it stable my 5930k would be able to pull similiar numbers. But I can't get it past 4.4ghz without it crashing.

 

[buildzoid]

Yeah if I could get it stable my 5930k would be able to pull similiar numbers. But I can't get it past 4.4ghz without it crashing.

That's partly why I didn't get a Haswell-e system yet. I don't trust the consistency of the Haswell-e chips overclocking ability.

Also here's my single R9 290X 3Dmark. I had a ton of crap running in the background so the score is kinda low.

 

[generaleramon]

What's the max safe voltage for a reference board? I'm at +168mv 1200mhz. Core And Vrm1 max 70-75°... I'm worried about the coil noise at high load...i dont want to stress the components too much... Vrms are OK but i don't want to damage the inductor or the capacitors... Any advice?

Not stable in 3Dmark...and doing 1200mhz with +200mv is't great... I think the voltage drop is the problem... Fluctuating from 1.25~ to over 1.3v~