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Radeon 9550 to 9600 Bios Mod

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I think it's 5ns, it says the following all over the chips:
N2DS12H16BT-5T

Should I assume it's 5ns or is there another way to find out?

Thanks for your time by the way, much appreciated.
 
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Used ATITool, clicked Settings and it gave me the following:
Catalyst Version: 4.10
Device ID: 4153
Chip Type: RV350
Memory Size: 128 MB
Memory Bus Width: 128 bit
Active Pipelines: 4
Default GPU Clock: 250.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock: 200.00 MHz

If it is 5.0, the Sapphire 9600 series BIOS downloads I found that are:

Sapphire 9600 Non-Pro 128 MB Jul 23rd 2003 4:39 AM Apr 18th 2004 10:10 PM 324 / 203
Elixir 5.0
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9600 SE 128 MB Oct 30th 2003 2:19 AM Jul 25th 2004 5:00 PM 324 / 182
Mosel Vitelic 5.0
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9600 SE 128 MB Oct 24th 2003 5:32 AM Dec 26th 2004 12:12 PM 324 / 196
Elixir 5.0
-

Non of which are Radeon 9600 Pro... do I still have a chance with any of them and which is best one to pick do you think?

Thank you
 

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Yeah, you have a card with 5ns memory chips.. With a 5.0ns RAM, the default speed of these chips are at 200MHz.. so you may try any of the 9600 Non-Pro BIOS and try to overclock it to see how much the memory can handle.. use ATITool to find out.. with some tweaks (especially after flashing the card with the 9600 BIOS), you should be able to get the maximum capable speed for both the GPU and memory chips..
 
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Thanks for the help. I'm going to try this one:
Sapphire 9600 Non-Pro 128 MB Jul 23rd 2003 4:39 AM Apr 18th 2004 10:10 PM 324 / 203
Elixir 5.0

This is probably a stupid question but... is there a way I can backup my original firmware just in case the new firmware causes problems?

Thanks
 

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Just use the command flashrom -s [adapter ID] [file name] to save the BIOS to the directory where the flashrom program is..
 

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hi all! I'm very excited with this article. I want to change my 9550's bios to 9600 pro. I'm using"HIS excalibur 9550 128 mb, 128-bit". what should I do?
 

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read the first post.. it should cover almost all aspects of your 9550 to 9600 conversion.. continue to read to know more about tweaking your 9550>9600 mod card..
 

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Unregistered said:
Used ATITool, clicked Settings and it gave me the following:
Catalyst Version: 4.10
Device ID: 4153
Chip Type: RV350
Memory Size: 128 MB
Memory Bus Width: 128 bit
Active Pipelines: 4
Default GPU Clock: 250.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock: 200.00 MHz

If it is 5.0, the Sapphire 9600 series BIOS downloads I found that are:

Sapphire 9600 Non-Pro 128 MB Jul 23rd 2003 4:39 AM Apr 18th 2004 10:10 PM 324 / 203
Elixir 5.0
-
9600 SE 128 MB Oct 30th 2003 2:19 AM Jul 25th 2004 5:00 PM 324 / 182
Mosel Vitelic 5.0
-
9600 SE 128 MB Oct 24th 2003 5:32 AM Dec 26th 2004 12:12 PM 324 / 196
Elixir 5.0
-

Non of which are Radeon 9600 Pro... do I still have a chance with any of them and which is best one to pick do you think?

Thank you


quick note re those, if you go mad and change your mind on what bios to use, make sure you don't use the 'SE' ones, as I have recently found out they are for 64 bit cards, whereas yours is a 128 bit card, and that probably wouldn't work. I would have attached the ISO image I used, but it's for the 256MB version =/
 

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hi! I'm a newbie.
I'm using win xp. I really confused reading how to flash my 9550 bios to 9600 pro at this articel's first post. can anybody help me? what tool do I have to use?
 

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9550====>9600pro
I have made a dos boot disk, then I could make a backup bios. but when I type 'flashrom -p 0 rv360(I named the bios rv360). it said that asci memory or what doesn't match. what is wrong? the bios?
 

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9550====>9600 pro
my card is HIS excalibur, so I used bios HIS 9600 pro modified an original from this site bios collection. when I type flashrom -p 0 9600.bin(as it is named), there was an error: asic memory doesn't match bios file. type 1 to continue
so, I used HIS 9600 non pro modified and original. but there was an error also: ssid doesn't match bios file.

it is okay to force the bios? or I picked up the wrong bios?
 

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ajokz -

A few things you should know before you try to do any flashing of your bios, it's relitively easy to understand, even I got it and I've only been here for 3 days!

First things first, after you've got the boot disk with flashrom unzipped onto it, use it to boot into DOS and then use the command 'flashrom -s 0 oldbios.bin'. That will save your current bios as the file 'oldbios.bin' on the floppy disk, so that you can put it back and set everything to normal if anything goes wrong.

After you've got that done, you need to find a bios on the bios database that will work with your card. The database is found here.
To find out what kind of BIOS you can use, you'l need to find out what kind of memory is used on your card. So, open up your PC (with it turned off and un plugged ofcourse) and look at the part number code that is printed on the memory chips. When you've got that copied down, go to this page and match up the code you've got written down with the codes in the list to find out what memory it has; make note of the manufacturer, the size, and the speed.

Now go back to the BIOS page and look for a BIOS that says '9600' (it doesn't neccisarily have to be the PRO version, you can also use the non-pro version, as they all use the same core). Make sure that in the '9600' BIOS that you use, it's clock and RAMDAC speeds are at what your card can handle, these are the numbers separated by a / (if you want any more info on that ask).
Also make sure that the memory make it says below these numbers is the same as what you've found out is on the chip, otherwise they won't be compatible, and that the speed it says for the memory is also the same.
Finally, the memory it says in the title of the bios has to be the same as the amount of memory you have on the card. You can see how much there is from the memory type table.

NOW MAKE SURE YOU'VE PUT THE CARD BACK INTO THE AGP SLOT
When you've found your BIOS, download it and save it as '9600.bin'. Then put it onto your boot disk, and reboot the PC with the disk in the drive. Then when you're at the command prompt, type 'flashrom -f -p 0 9600.bin' to force flash the bios. If this then works and you can then progress to overclocking, if it doesn't, then just reboot again with the boot disk, type in 'flashrom -f -p 0 oldbios.bin' to restore your old bios, and then do some more rooting around in the BIOS database until you find one that works.

For information about overclocking, visit here and it'll tell you everything you need to know.

Hope this helps :)
 

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Thanks, Dedodido. I have done it well. I did just like what you said. now my 'Radeon 9600' has core clock and memory clock: 297/243. Now I want to changed it into 324/273. :)
 

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no problem, good luck with your overclocking ^_^
 
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R9550 8pipes ???

I do not believe that R9550 has no support for 8 pipes. GPU RV350 is absolutly the same. Have someone tried Hmod or bios mod to unlock it?
 

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I don't think the chip has 8 pipes to be honest. I'm pretty sure it only has 4. I think I can remember reading somwhere that when they released the 9600, everyone was expecting it to just have 4 of the 8 pipelines from a more expensive model disabled, but they actually rebuilt the chip using only 4 pipelines to reduce the cost.
 

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hi, Dedodido. after changed into 324/273. my monitor shows something that is called... artifact? that means that my card can't handle this setting? :)
 

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9550/9600 chip has 4 pipelines inside the silicon... nothing to unlock
 

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ajokz - yup that means that the card is over heating, resulting in artifcats in your screen. If you added extra cooling for the card, then it might be able to handle it, but that also costs extra money and can be difficult to install. Without extra cooling you'll have to take them down a little bit untill you stop getting artifacts.
The best thing to do, is when you've got what you think are the max clock and memory speeds, scan for artifacts and leave it running for an hour or two. If it doesn't find anything, you're good to go. If it does find anything, take them down a little bit more and try again.
:)
 

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@ajokz
Are you using a heatsink-only cooler on your 9550 card? you might want to try adding a casing fan or a PCI slot fan to blow at the heatsink..
 

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I'm using HIS 9550 i-fan edition. is it possible to use 9800se's bios? cause 9800se uses rv350/rv360
 

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I don't think it is possible to flash it with a 9800 BIOS, especially an SE version...

The 9800 uses a compltely redesigned core, with only 4 pipelines instead of 8.
 

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ajokz said:
I'm using HIS 9550 i-fan edition. is it possible to use 9800se's bios? cause 9800se uses rv350/rv360
The 9800SE uses the R350 core, the 9550 uses the RV350. Completely different chips.
 

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soldering on the core sucks ..

the first 2 resistors have been examined so far .. now for the 3rd
 
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