Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced: Report

[Anath]

You stole my plan... I figure I am going to grab 2 4890s to replace my 4850s when the HD5000s launch (can you say price drop?), then wait til the new Nvidia cards launch (Dec-Jan) and grab a pair of 5870s (Price drop again?)

haha dang i didnt even think about that picking them up when the nvidia cards come out haha thats a good idea...i still need to pick up a crossfire board though...maybe i can find a nice used one or a combo deal or something

 

[nafets]

This pricing speculation is useless without some performance results, or even some actual specifications of the cards...

:/

 

[ArmoredCavalry]

That would be nice if it retails at $300. It would be even nicer if it has performance around gtx295/4870x2.... Hey a guy can wish can't he?

Me wants benchmarks!!

 

[Velvet Wafer]

aaaahhh!!!! i feeeeel it! this is the one! the one that will bring me orgiastic feelings again. fuck the reviews... it must be a monster... or otherwise tell me why its die seems to be monolitically big.. after a die SHRINK?

 

[Disruptor4]

You stole my plan... I figure I am going to grab 2 4890s to replace my 4850s when the HD5000s launch (can you say price drop?), then wait til the new Nvidia cards launch (Dec-Jan) and grab a pair of 5870s (Price drop again?)

Why don't you just save your money and wait til the you plan to buy the 5870's?

 

[ar09]

We do get ripped off on hardware prices though.

who rips you off? the americans or canadians or the germans...
you pay alot more. do people there pay cash for it?

 

[Velvet Wafer]

who rips you off? the americans or canadians or the germans...
you pay alot more. do people there pay cash for it?

thank you for reminding on us germans... we are forgotten too often

 

[JATownes]

Why don't you just save your money and wait til the you plan to buy the 5870's?

New Hardware Addiction?? Only response I have...But I think a lot of people here at TPU have the same addiction...

My 4850s are feeling aged...I have had 1 for a year and the other for 6 months (xfire )...time for new toys.

Edit: It also isn't about saving the money...I could afford them, I just know that I can get the EXACT same cards 4-5 months after launch for 60-70% of the launch date price.

 

[YinYang.ERROR]

meh... Still waiting for the card that is in the $100 price range that will beat out the 4850.

 

[1nvisible]

DX11 what a joke, i am FUKING DONE! i'm not buying another card till the end of next year when they're on ebay for 80 bucks, this is madness, DX10 was a joke so what makes you think DX11 will be something when there is still no solid proof, its the same never ending cycle of putting money into these piss ass companies pockets while i sit here with no software and no real performance gain, all they do is make promises and stuff nothing but bloat-wear Physx and cuda crap in my ass.

You will not see real graphics improvements for years to come, i can stake on it, consoles are holding these cards back, game developers aren't writing codes anymore aimed at PC, I'm still playing CSS and battlefield for god sakes. all you're getting is fps, what game today can't hit over 60fps with a gtx260 and a quad.

 

[ArmoredCavalry]

DX11 what a joke, i am FUKING DONE! i am not buying another card till the end of next year when they are on ebay for 80 bucks, this is madness, DX10 was a joke so what makes you think DX11 will be something when there is still no solid proof, its the same never ending cycle of putting money into these piss ass companies pockets while i sit here with no software.

You will not see real graphics improvements for years to come, i can stake on it, consoles are holding these cards back, game developers aren't writing codes anymore aimed at PC, I'm still playing CSS and battlefield for god sakes. all you're getting is fps, what game today can't hit over 60fps with a gtx260 and a quad.

Well, for the most part I don't think people will be buying these cards for DX11 features. They will be buying it for improved performance. But you are right about consoles holding cards back. I don't really see the need to plop down $300 to get 200 fps instead of 150 . I guess the only case where this might not be true is if you are running at 2560x1600 or some other crazy resolution.

I just got the new Wolfenstein, and I had to turn on vsycnc because I was getting such high framerates it was tearing like mad. Probably the lack of AA option had a lot to do with it, but still.... :shadedshu But that just goes to show how any high end card made in the past year is going to destroy a console port. Developers just don't want to put effort into adding more effects for a smaller market...

Thus we have Crysis, probably still the most demanding PC game, and how old is it now? ...

 

[ar09]

thank you for reminding on us germans... we are forgotten too often

ati is canadian
nvidia is german
usa is all of the above. "they" work for the "greeddy" americans. (thats all i meant.)

 

[1nvisible]

Well, for the most part I don't think people will be buying these cards for DX11 features. They will be buying it for improved performance. But you are right about consoles holding cards back. I don't really see the need to plop down $300 to get 200 fps instead of 150 . I guess the only case where this might not be true is if you are running at 2560x1600 or some other crazy resolution.

I just got the new Wolfenstein, and I had to turn on vsycnc because I was getting such high framerates it was tearing like mad. Probably the lack of AA option had a lot to do with it, but still.... :shadedshu But that just goes to show how any high end card made in the past year is going to destroy a console port. Developers just don't want to put effort into adding more effects for a smaller market...

Thus we have Crysis, probably still the most demanding PC game, and how old is it now? ...

I ran Crycrap just fine and uninstall it with satisfaction knowing my hardware did well, most people use it as a benchmarking tool without knowing part of it is ego, secondly "you put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig", in this case patches = lipstick Crycrap = pig, it's still a badly coded game no matter how many patches are released.

I have to enable Vsync with GRID @ 1680 16XQCSAA or else it plays like rubbish with massive amount of frame tear, a upgrade in Graphics card is just not something i need now.
And you would be surprise how many dumb noobs are saying they can't wait for Windows 7 with DX11.

ati is canadian
nvidia is german
usa is all of the above. "they" work for the "greeddy" americans. (thats all i meant.)

Right on, americans are a greedy consuming set.

As for price, its the same thing they're doing with the new PS3 slim.
299 US
299 Euro

as the guys over invisiblewalls are saying Europeans are getting hoes'd left and right.

 

[ArmoredCavalry]

And you would be surprise how many dumb noobs are saying they can't wait for Windows 7 with DX11.

Well I think it is ok to be excited about new technology (else I probably wouldn't be here). However, it is probably unrealistic to think that there will be a lot of games utilizing DX11 technology anytime soon. I'd like it if they did, but I'm a pessimist after DX10.

P.S. You can use multi-quote to respond to mutiple posts with a single response.

 

[1Kurgan1]

My X1950XT wants a word with you.

Yeah that is true that the x1900's were great cards, my x1950Pro was an awesome card. And even the 2900XT's could compete, but they just seemed to not compete unless they were OC'd like crazy, which they were OC'ing beasts. So I guess it just skipped 1 gen.

DX11 what a joke, i am FUKING DONE! i'm not buying another card till the end of next year when they're on ebay for 80 bucks, this is madness, DX10 was a joke so what makes you think DX11 will be something when there is still no solid proof, its the same never ending cycle of putting money into these piss ass companies pockets while i sit here with no software and no real performance gain, all they do is make promises and stuff nothing but bloat-wear Physx and cuda crap in my ass.

You will not see real graphics improvements for years to come, i can stake on it, consoles are holding these cards back, game developers aren't writing codes anymore aimed at PC, I'm still playing CSS and battlefield for god sakes. all you're getting is fps, what game today can't hit over 60fps with a gtx260 and a quad.

It wasn't the DX10 that was huge, it was the leap in power. Think of a 7900 or a x1950 vs an 8800 or 3870 (or 3870x2). Those were pretty big increases in power. Like you said what can't be played at good fps with a GTX260 and a qaud, but remember, GTX260 is the newest generation of cards made.

 

[Hayder_Master]

compare it with 4890 this cards looks good for performance per dollar , also if we not make any trolling this card have near performance to GTX285

 

[a_ump]

i seriously dout that the HD 5870 is gonna have compeitive performance with the GTX 285. it's definitely going to outperform it by a decent margin, the HD 4890 isn't far behind it already, it is below it but not by far. This is the exact price i was hoping the HD 5870 would retail at so the day its released its gonna be mine . i can't wait.

 

[A Cheese Danish]

ati is canadian
nvidia is german
usa is all of the above. "they" work for the "greeddy" americans. (thats all i meant.)

You are right about ATi being founded in Canada. But I though nVidia was American? Based in California.

That is neither here nor there. I probably won't be pleased with anything said about the 58xx series cards
until I see some benchmarks.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I wish I knew when they were coming out. This 8800GT is becoming more trouble than its worth (BSODs). $300 is the price I'm willing to pay for a new card so "YAY" to that. XD


...but that also might mean it sucks/not competitive with NVIDIA cards.

 

[csendesmark]

ati is canadian
nvidia is german
usa is all of the above. "they" work for the "greeddy" americans. (thats all i meant.)

Headquarters: Santa Clara, California
USA

founded by former AMD and Sun employees

 

[kylew]

It'll be £299 in the rip off uk.

No it won't, the same way the 3870 and 4870 both were NOT £299.

I know England is expensive, but seriously, don't resort to making it up.

The 3870 was $299 + VAT basically. As was the 4850 and 4870.

When the 4850 and 70 were released, I got two 4850s. The exchange rate at the time was around $2 to £1 and coincidently, my 4850s were about £105+VAT = £120 each.

Oh yeah, I see the massive rip off now. Technically speaking 4850s and 70s were cheaper over here pre VAT than they were in the US.

At least use your brain when you decide to post a comment.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

nvidia is german

thats not true. i dont believe nvidia has not a factory over here, and its not a single bit german (if you ignore operation "paperclip").... Germany is ATI country, due to 2 linked fabs (globalfoundries fab 36+ 38, today named fab1 modul1 and modul2), out of 3 worldwide...

the whole lot is named: AMD Saxony, its not even a daughter company of AMD anymore

 

[EarlZ]

I dont see how $299 is priced aggressively, whats the speculated performance on a single 5870 is it better than a 4870X2 ?

 

[zOaib]

great news !!! anyways for all my UK techpowerup users if you need the 5870 i can buy one and mail it to you for the amount newegg sells them (will not charge you any service fee) as long as you pay shipping and all related expenses =)

(PM me if anyone needs).

 

[FordGT90Concept]

ATI was Canadian; it was bought out by AMD which is USA.
NVIDIA is USA.

ATI and NVIDIA outsourced production.

I dont see how $299 is priced aggressively, whats the speculated performance on a single 5870 is it better than a 4870X2 ?

Theoretically it is. Won't know for sure until it is benchmarked.