[RAM] DDR4 3200 Mhz speed not working

[Provin915]

You don't have to change it as 3600mhz auto sets the fabric to ideal ratio. You can check it with any diagnostics app or ryzen master.

Ah yes ofcourse, it was set automatically. I will double check the BIOS to see if everything is correct. Thanks!

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish by using Windows hardware diagnostics. As people have suggested, get memtest86. Put it on a USB and boot from it into Memtest. Run it continuous for anywhere between 4-8 rounds of testing. Go take a shower, watch some TV, go make yourself some food. Come back and if it's all in the clear, you're golden.

Make sure your XMP is stable at 3600/16 through Memtest before you start going off and using the calculator to tweak your timings.

I used the Windows memory test because I read on some other sites it could determine if I have hardware issues (RAM), so I ran it just to be sure. The DRAM calculator came with a free memtest, although this is memtest6. I will get the memtest86 and do some testing. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

[damric]

X.M.P. table is the problem. Those timings are for intel. Ryzen needs looser rcd, faw...use the calculator. If it passed qvl then they used looser timings.

Btw neo uses Hynix D die. Same as my ripjawsv. Got mine at 3333/14 rock solid stable.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

X.M.P. table is the problem. Those timings are for intel. Ryzen needs looser rcd, faw...use the calculator. If it passed qvl then they used looser timings.

Btw neo uses Hynix D die. Same as my ripjawsv. Got mine at 3333/14 rock solid stable.

Provin is super green mem tweaker. He's really looking for plug and play, at least so I think.

So really, he'd be better at Cas 14 even at 3000mhz rather than Cas 16+ at 3200mhz. It's an entire 100mhz effective o.c. but gonna loose out on latency.

Not sure why he'd need to buy new sticks. I'd set 3000mhz manually, post it, test it, examine timings to benchmarks and have a nice day. (Opinion based comment)

 

[Zach_01]

Hey man. I just installed the G.Skill modules and they are looking great! I did a memory diagnostics test on Windows and this time I had no hardware problems. I've changed the XMP settings on and its running at 3600mhz and 1.35V.

I installed DRAM calculator, but I've got no idea what to do. I ran an easy test on membench and I don't know if the result is good or bad. Got any advice on this? Also, I've got memtest. How should I proceed?

Use RyzenMaster software to see all the specs that you are currently running.

200+ sec in that test is a bit slow. And 73ns latency is not ideal either for Ryzen. Also if there is something wrong this test gives errors too.
I believe your new modules are doing 3600 16-22-22-22-42 right? That’s a bit on the loose side. If you want to tweak it you could improve the performance. You need Ryzen DRAM calc for this. Now that your new sticks don’t complain like the previous, I bet you can do it.

First you need to set the first page with the system/ram specs. From “Processor” through “Motherboard”. Then click the purple button and then the green one. We I’ll take it from there.
To determine the memory type/rank you need the Thaiphoon software.
profile version = v1

 

[TheLostSwede]

Hey man. I just installed the G.Skill modules and they are looking great! I did a memory diagnostics test on Windows and this time I had no hardware problems. I've changed the XMP settings on and its running at 3600mhz and 1.35V.

I installed DRAM calculator, but I've got no idea what to do. I ran an easy test on membench and I don't know if the result is good or bad. Got any advice on this? Also, I've got memtest. How should I proceed?

Ok, as pointed out, you need to download Thaiphoon burner first to find out what memory ICs you have. Get the freeware version.

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Start it, hit Read and select on of your modules from the list.
Then you should see something like this.

What's important here is DRAM Components.
Manufacturer tells you who made the DRAM chips, in this case it's Hynix.
Part Number tells you what memory chips you have, in this case, it's CJR. This might not be entirely obvious to you, so maybe post a screen shot (Alt+Prt Scr with Taiphoon Burner being clicked on then Ctrl+V into your post).

Once those parts are know, you can start keying in data into the DRAM Calculator.

As you can see, I have selected a Ryzen 2 gen, as that's Ryzen 3000, Hynix CJR memory, V1 profile, memory rank 1 (chips on only one side of the modules), the speed I want to run them at, no need to touch BCLK, the amount of modules I have (4) and the type of motherboard chipset I have (X570).
Then hit R-XMP, it allows the DRAM Calculator to read the XMP settings.
Then hit Calculate SAFE to get safe settings or FAST for faster settings. Extreme might not work.
The screenshot above has the fast setting for my RAM, but I managed to run my modules at slightly tighter timings and lower Voltages, as I'm only at 1.37V.

The key ones to change are tCL (CAS), tRCDWR, tRCDRD, tRP, TRAS, tRC and tRFC. Apart from tRFC, all the other ones should be in order under advanced memory settings or something similar in your UEFI. The settings might be called something slightly different though.
Obviously, going beyond 3600MHz for the memory clock, you'd have to set the FCLK and Infinity Fabric speeds manually, but I doubt that's something you'll be playing with for now.
Just try lowering the mentioned settings to whatever the DRAM Calculator suggests on fast settings, if that's an option with your modules.
Normally you can still keep XMP enabled and then just tweak the settings.
You might also want to take a look at procODT, as it can help with stability. Likewise with Loadline calibration. That said, these should be fine on auto with your RAM at 3600MHz.

Some screenshots from my UEFI with the settings I've changed.

And the end result.

 

[Zach_01]

Normally you can still keep XMP enabled and then just tweak the settings.

For me every time I did this, latency was going down the toilet... I had to disable XMP when using the Calc settings, all or a part of them.
Probably have to do with the settings/timings that are not visible...

I'm missing 2 cores and 250MHz, so L1/2/3 not so fast...

 

[Provin915]

Use RyzenMaster software to see all the specs that you are currently running.

200+ sec in that test is a bit slow. And 73ns latency is not ideal either for Ryzen. Also if there is something wrong this test gives errors too.
I believe your new modules are doing 3600 16-22-22-22-42 right? That’s a bit on the loose side. If you want to tweak it you could improve the performance. You need Ryzen DRAM calc for this. Now that your new sticks don’t complain like the previous, I bet you can do it.

First you need to set the first page with the system/ram specs. From “Processor” through “Motherboard”. Then click the purple button and then the green one. We I’ll take it from there.
To determine the memory type/rank you need the Thaiphoon software.
profile version = v1

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I just got back from my vacation; apologies for late reply. I posted the results for DRAM and what should I look for?

Ok, as pointed out, you need to download Thaiphoon burner first to find out what memory ICs you have. Get the freeware version.

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Start it, hit Read and select on of your modules from the list.
Then you should see something like this.

View attachment 136529

What's important here is DRAM Components.
Manufacturer tells you who made the DRAM chips, in this case it's Hynix.
Part Number tells you what memory chips you have, in this case, it's CJR. This might not be entirely obvious to you, so maybe post a screen shot (Alt+Prt Scr with Taiphoon Burner being clicked on then Ctrl+V into your post).

Once those parts are know, you can start keying in data into the DRAM Calculator.

View attachment 136530

As you can see, I have selected a Ryzen 2 gen, as that's Ryzen 3000, Hynix CJR memory, V1 profile, memory rank 1 (chips on only one side of the modules), the speed I want to run them at, no need to touch BCLK, the amount of modules I have (4) and the type of motherboard chipset I have (X570).
Then hit R-XMP, it allows the DRAM Calculator to read the XMP settings.
Then hit Calculate SAFE to get safe settings or FAST for faster settings. Extreme might not work.
The screenshot above has the fast setting for my RAM, but I managed to run my modules at slightly tighter timings and lower Voltages, as I'm only at 1.37V.

The key ones to change are tCL (CAS), tRCDWR, tRCDRD, tRP, TRAS, tRC and tRFC. Apart from tRFC, all the other ones should be in order under advanced memory settings or something similar in your UEFI. The settings might be called something slightly different though.
Obviously, going beyond 3600MHz for the memory clock, you'd have to set the FCLK and Infinity Fabric speeds manually, but I doubt that's something you'll be playing with for now.
Just try lowering the mentioned settings to whatever the DRAM Calculator suggests on fast settings, if that's an option with your modules.
Normally you can still keep XMP enabled and then just tweak the settings.
You might also want to take a look at procODT, as it can help with stability. Likewise with Loadline calibration. That said, these should be fine on auto with your RAM at 3600MHz.

Some screenshots from my UEFI with the settings I've changed.

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And the end result.

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Thank you for the extensive reply man.

I did the typhoon result and entered the information afterwards in DRAM calculator on SAFE and FAST. Here are the results. What do you guys think? I have been running XMP for a couple of days and have had no issues with gaming or BSOD's.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I just got back from my vacation; apologies for late reply. I posted the results for DRAM and what should I look for?

Thank you for the extensive reply man.

I did the typhoon result and entered the information afterwards in DRAM calculator on SAFE and FAST. Here are the results. What do you guys think? I have been running XMP for a couple of days and have had no issues with gaming or BSOD's.

I would look at setting the fast settings for sure, as that's a huge latency reduction. Not sure why G.Skill sells this RAM at such high latencies for Ryzen, but it's easy to solve.

Also, it might be worth looking if you get something decent at 3800MHz, as at least in theory, you should be able to run your RAM at the same speed as me. That said, the Infinity Fabric speed of your CPU might not go to 1900MHz, but 3733MHz is also an option you can test if 3800MHz doesn't work.

 

[Provin915]

d look at setting the fast settings for sure, as that's

I would look at setting the fast settings for sure, as that's a huge latency reduction. Not sure why G.Skill sells this RAM at such high latencies for Ryzen, but it's easy to solve.

Also, it might be worth looking if you get something decent at 3800MHz, as at least in theory, you should be able to run your RAM at the same speed as me. That said, the Infinity Fabric speed of your CPU might not go to 1900MHz, but 3733MHz is also an option you can test if 3800MHz doesn't work.

Where can I see the latency reduction? Or is that just the difference between safe and fast?

 

[Zach_01]

Where can I see the latency reduction? Or is that just the difference between safe and fast?

Speed increase(MHz) = mostly increases bandwidth(GB/s) and slightly decreases latency
Lower timings = mostly decreases latency and slightly increases bandwidth

You need something like AIDA memory benchmark to see the whatever gains before and after tweaking...