RAM Size & Speed Recommendation

[Waldorf]

yeah, uneven numbers on dual channel boards...

 

[lexluthermiester]

yeah, uneven numbers on dual channel boards...

How is 2x8GB and 2x4GB spread across 4 ram slots uneven? Hmm?

Please explain so my ignorant self with FOURTY years of PC building experience can get all learned from the experts..

 

[Waldorf]

as in, not all sticks are same capacity?
just because something works, doesnt mean its the best way..

(funny how you have to add that last sentence, yet comment with things like user "liked it" (having more ram).
usually "pros" dont consider "liking something", as proof that there is a (performance) gain.
ignoring that how long someone is doing something, is no guarantee you are "right",
as hundreds of rocket scientists at Nasa (and the like), didnt prevent any rocket/shuttle disaster we had in the past 60y.)

 

[freeagent]

Not sure what my Z77 rig has in it for chips, I think its got 2x4GB of Hynix and 2x2GB of BBSE for 12GB. Its runs pretty good, still does low 40s in Aida64 latency.. not bad. Running at 900MHz.. the BBSE is good for 1100MHz

 

[lexluthermiester]

as in, not all sticks are same capacity?

They don't need to be as long as each channel of RAM has the same amount of ram(of course that's not always required either), at the same speeds and the same timings. RAM of mismatched capacities have been working together perfectly, by design, for DECADES and without any degradation in performance. In fact, no motherboard ever, whether single channel or mutlichannel, has required identical capacity RAM sticks, Same speeds & timings sure but never capacity.

So are you done learnin me some knowledge? Hmm?

Not sure what my Z77 rig has in it for chips, I think its got 2x4GB of Hynix and 2x2GB of BBSE for 12GB. Its runs pretty good, still does low 40s in Aida64 latency.. not bad. Running at 900MHz.. the BBSE is good for 1100MHz

And here's a perfect example. Thank You.

TADA!

 

[Waldorf]

thats were the difference is. to me "it works" isnt enough, when it can be done better.
never said degradation, but doubt it will perform the same as a identical unit with identical sticks.

 

[freeagent]

but doubt it will perform the same as a identical unit with identical sticks.

I know what you are talking about, I saw it demonstrated by Level 1 Techs I think. Luckily I don't run any kind of specialized workloads that would be limited by the smaller pair. Its just a Roblox box, with a little GTA

 

[lexluthermiester]

thats were the difference is. to me "it works" isnt enough

One moment...

RAM of mismatched capacities have been working together perfectly, by design, for DECADES and without any degradation in performance.

...You were saying?

This is not an argument you can win. You and @GorbazTheDragon seem blissfully unaware of facts that the whole of the tech industry knows and has known for a very long time, quite possibly before you were born. Known fact and knowledge is against you both.

So really, let it good.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

I sell PC's With 24GB, more than a fair number of them. Not one customer has ever complained. Many come back to tell us that they're happy with the extra 8GB of RAM as it's been useful to them. You can laugh all you wish, but I'm laughing all the way to the bank.

But... Why?

Pricing out your config with standard RipJaws, it's $10 more to go with a 2x16 kit (for 32GB total), over 24GB with a kit of 8GB and a kit of 16GB. More RAM and room for expansion.

Seems like a disservice to your customers.

Also, *FORTY

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

@lexluthermiester Don't wheel me into this again, especially not under the idea that it does not work.

I said it's a terrible idea on the basis of needing to hunt down sticks that will actually play nicely together, no support in the case it doesn't work, and the pricing making no sense either.

If you need more than 16GB, get 32. End of story mate.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Pricing out your config with standard RipJaws, it's $10 more to go with a 2x16 kit (for 32GB total), over 24GB with a kit of 8GB and a kit of 16GB. More RAM and room for expansion.

While that's a valid point, some people just don't need 32GB and often want to spend that extra on other parts, for example, a larger SSD or HDD. And to be far, my resale cost for those two kits has a difference of $14. Standard markup applies so the difference to the customer is about $20.

Seems like a disservice to your customers.

Opinion. Not supported by PC retail reality.

@lexluthermiester Don't wheel me into this again, especially not under the idea that it does not work.

Hey you started this and Mr Fry decided to continue it... and if you want me to shut up about it, you first.

I said it's a terrible idea on the basis of needing to hunt down sticks that will actually play nicely together

That's an assumption on your part. I buy RAM in bulk and as such have no need to "hunt" anything down.

and the pricing making no sense either.

To YOU, maybe. But you're not a retailer. For us lot things work a little differently.

End of story mate.

Aww, that was cute...

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Opinion. Not supported by PC retail reality.

As someone's who's had to explain to people that they needed to throw out some of their existing RAM to add additional, I can tell you they thought of their original configuration as a disservice.

So not really an opinion.

Might be a sales tool you could use to educate the customer and increase your sell price if you explain the benefits to spending $20 more now.

Just a thought.

 

[lexluthermiester]

As someone's who's had to explain to people that they needed to throw out some of their existing RAM to add additional, I can tell you they thought of their original configuration as a disservice.

So not really an opinion.

Might be a sales tool you could use to educate the customer and increase your sell price if you explain the benefits to spending $20 more now.

Just a thought.

Tell you what. When you open your own shop, you can run it whatever way you wish and you can sell as you see fit. Most of the people who walk out of my store with 24GB in their system will never need more as 24GB is enough for any and all tasks they will throw at it. But for the few people that end up upgrading a few years down the line and have to pull out 8GB to replace with 16GB, there's nothing wrong with that as it is an inexpensive upgrade and will continue to be. You are putting to much stock in the idea that it's an inconvenience when it is not. 24GB is a very useful amount of system RAM, is more than most need and will continue to be for a few years yet.

So yes, your opinion is yours. It is not applicible to all or even most. I will continue to service my clientele as practical needs and balanced costs require. I will also continue to recommend to the people who visit these forums looking for help amounts of RAM that makes logical sense to their NEEDS, not to the whims of other users opinions or sensibilities.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

To YOU, maybe. But you're not a retailer. For us lot things work a little differently.

Is the OP gonna buy in bulk?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Is the OP gonna buy in bulk?

Given that I provided direct links to a matched set, why would they need to? Are you done?

 

[Ruru]

I have 32GB @ 3466 on my main rig and 18GB @ 1600 on my 2nd system, those are fine for my usage. The only time I've broke the 16GB barrier was when playing FF XV.