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vBIOS Mod Killed a $3,000 Razer Laptop – Avoid Gaming Laptops!

This channel has some gems on it, and I am finding it quite relaxing to watch him repair equipment.

Similar to the liquid metal video I linked.... refer to this when you are wanting to flash your vBIOS, desktop or laptop.

Just leave it alone and enjoy your hardware. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.
 

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Share that video in every post that starts with flashing a mobile gpu

Yeah, that's pretty accurate. On a laptop people should just be adjusting the voltage/boost curve (kinda imho, but also just kind of a fact). I don't know what that person was thinking.
(I didn't watch the video, but overclocking laptops is *generally* a bad idea, especially for newbs, unless you're very familiar with it's cooling capability/hw and monitoring a bunch of other intricate things imho).

Flashing bioses can be a weird thing if people don't have/use common sense, and perhaps you and I are of slightly different perspectives about it, although I don't know that for a fact.
I could just understand the potential frustration given you take the time to help people with it so often (which I think is doing the community a great service).

I want people to learn, I also want people to have the best product (spec) that fits their needs, which isn't always stock (for various reasons), or to be able to change/fix something a previous owner did.
That said, I understand the perspective that there are some people that REALLY don't get it before putting themselves in a compromised position; then need help and/or blame others for their own problems.
And helping some people (either accomplish a realistic goal or understand, if not fix their stuff they've bricked) can be incredibly frustrating; but also rewarding.

I land on the side of the fence that I want people to learn what's realistic/feasible, and don't like to say blanket statements like "some people shouldn't do it", but I also generally don't have to teach them.

Some people, just like overclocking, will leave very tangible performance gains and/or value on the table from not learning about it and/or participating in it; I think them understanding helps the market/scene.
And can help *some* people that really could have a better experience than they could never otherwise afford (and/or set up themselves); I want them to be rewarded for taking the time and learning.

But some people come at it with very unrealistic expectations, or don't understand they may need to actually become more knowledgeable of other aspects of the hardware.
IMHO those people are teachable; they just need to chill and be willing to take the time to learn while understanding possible scenarios that may occur...if they can't do that then they shouldn't be doing it.

It's difficult for me to split that hair in a coherent fashion; between people learning and perhaps having a better (or even functioning) card and those that are impatient and just want a free lunch.
The latter group should not cause the former group to be smaller; the latter group just needs to learn what's feasible (and/or accept any 'risks'; like being able to flash a bricked card). If not able, they shouldn't.

To expand the former group you're inevitably going to end up with some of the latter, and those people will quickly learn if it's for them or not, but also I want the former group to grow so people generally become more knowledgable.

I hope that makes sense.
I know some people entering this scene will inevitably cause some cringe moments (because some people are in-fact stupid), but also you may end up fostering the next OC GM, or support guru.
Those people need to start somewhere rather than just accepting the world as it is but doesn't need to be (as many do and more shouldn't), and it should be encouraged to learn/understand rather than discouraged.
 
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Yeah, that's pretty accurate. On a laptop people should just be adjusting the voltage/boost curve (kinda imho, but also just kind of a fact). I don't know what that person was thinking.
(I didn't watch the video, but overclocking laptops is *generally* a bad idea, especially for newbs, unless you're very familiar with it's cooling capability/hw and monitoring a bunch of other intricate things imho).

Flashing bioses can be a weird thing if people don't have/use common sense, and perhaps you and I are of slightly different perspectives about it, although I don't know that for a fact.
I could just understand the potential frustration given you take the time to help people with it so often (which I think is doing the community a great service).

I want people to learn, I also want people to have the best product (spec) that fits their needs, which isn't always stock (for various reasons), or to be able to change/fix something a previous owner did.
That said, I understand the perspective that there are some people that REALLY don't get it before putting themselves in a compromised position; then need help and/or blame others for their own problems.
And helping some people (either accomplish a realistic goal or understand, if not fix their stuff they've bricked) can be incredibly frustrating; but also rewarding.

I land on the side of the fence that I want people to learn what's realistic/feasible, and don't like to say blanket statements like "some people shouldn't do it", but I also generally don't have to teach them.

Some people, just like overclocking, will leave very tangible performance gains and/or value on the table from not learning about it and/or participating in it; I think them understanding helps the market/scene.
And can help *some* people that really could have a better experience than they could never otherwise afford (and/or set up themselves); I want them to be rewarded for taking the time and learning.

But some people come at it with very unrealistic expectations, or don't understand they may need to actually become more knowledgeable of other aspects of the hardware.
IMHO those people are teachable; they just need to chill and be willing to take the time to learn while understanding possible scenarios that may occur...if they can't do that then they shouldn't be doing it.

It's difficult for me to split that hair in a coherent fashion; between people learning and perhaps having a better (or even functioning) card and those that are impatient and just want a free lunch.
The latter group should not cause the former group to be smaller; the latter group just needs to learn what's feasible (and/or accept any 'risks'; like being able to flash a bricked card). If not able, they shouldn't.

To expand the former group you're inevitably going to end up with some of the latter, and those people will quickly learn if it's for them or not, but also I want the former group to grow so people generally become more knowledgable.

I hope that makes sense.
I know some people entering this scene will inevitably cause some cringe moments (because some people are in-fact stupid), but also you may end up fostering the next OC GM, or support guru.
Those people need to start somewhere rather than just accepting the world as it is but doesn't need to be (as many do and more shouldn't), and it should be encouraged to learn/understand rather than discouraged.
It's no longer common sense, they are full of non sense. Firmware is released directly on a makers page to address a problem with a device. If none are found then there is absolutely no reason to flash any mobile gpu, heck todays card's for that matter.
 
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