Recommended "Clean" W11 reinstall method? (Trying to fix Latency)

[cvaldes]

There are Windows debloat scripts out there. I haven't tried them all nor am I some Windows system administration expert but a useful debloat script just automates what a bunch of Windows dilettantes will advise you to do manually.

Windows system administration is already tedious enough to the point where I don't really want to spend 10+ hours digging up random nuggets of advice all over the Internet just to set up a new system. That's why I use these debloat scripts on new Windoze boxes.

I don't have to do that for a new Mac. MacOS system administration load is like 90% less than Windows. And yes, I have owned both since the Nineties. And here in 2024 at least Apple isn't cramming ads down my throat like Microsoft is with Windows 11 user interface. Ads in the freakin' Start Menu? Good grief.

None of my Macs ever had Bonzi Buddy, Comet Cursors, RealPlayer, et at preloaded.

 

[dgianstefani]

The problem with debloat scripts is that Win update will revert and add the bloat back.

You have to be using a version of Windows that by default does not have the bloat.

The alternative is to disable updates, but then you have security and potential performance issues.

 

[cvaldes]

In my experience, Patch Tuesday updates for vanilla Windows Home/Pro don't typically add the bloat back nor do they change all of the system settings. Yes, a major upgrade (like from Windows 10 22H2 to Windows 11 23H2) will likely be better served by a debloat script but I'm okay with that.

And Microsoft is weaselly enough to probably try to sneak in some bloat into LTSC anyhow. They have fewer opportunities to do so but for sure they may try to do it. And LTSC has a number of idiosyncrasies and inconveniences that make it unsuitable to recommend to Joe Consumer

What's Windows 11 LTSC, and can you install it on your computer?

The LTSC edition of Windows 11 is only for specific setups, and Microsoft plans to release it during the second half of 2024.

www.windowscentral.com

It's really designed for commercial systems where an experienced system administrator has determined that its limitations are acceptable (like lack of Microsoft Store app support out of the box).

Hell, as much as I despise consumer versions of Windows 10/11 I still don't find the limitations of LTSC all that appealing. It just adds a different set of system administration tasks to work around some of these. You may be intimately aware of the differences between vanilla and LTSC flavors of Windows. But most people don't and even learning about them takes time and experience. If you're a professional Windows sysadmin, developer, systems architect, yeah, it makes sense to brush up on this stuff.

But OP is a gamer, just trying to squeeze a few fps out of his DIY rig. Completely different situation.

Debloat scripts reduce the total amount of system administration load. My time is worth something and I don't get any kicks from wiping up Windows puke. Sure, you can probably do a better, cleaner job at debloating a system but you have thousands of hours of system administration experience. Joe Consumer simply doesn't have the interest in spending time to learn everything you know. They have other things they need/want to do.

 

[Ruru]

I just use the install what MS's tool does, I just disconnect the ethernet cable after logging the first time with MS account so I can manually install drivers without Windows doing that. For chipset and GPU etc.