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The biggest noise is coming from the intake fans. There are 4 of them and spinning at 1200-1700 rpm.

Yes, why so fast? Mine are under BIOS control and sit at 600 rpm most of the time.
 
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Yes and no. Sure, if you increase the RPM thus increasing the air flow, the noise from the air molecules hitting each other and things in their path will increase. But increasing the RPM also increases actual motor noise too - especially if the bearings are already worn and making noise.

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Why do you have so many intake fans? That alone may be much of your problem. Intake fans tend to be located in front, closer to our ears. Being mounted directly to the case allows any sound and vibrations from the fan to be transferred to the case. Case's are cavernous metal boxes where sounds and vibrations that make sounds can reverberate throughout the case, effectively amplifying those sounds.

Why do you have them spinning so fast? Have you tried a speed controller and setting it to 500 - 600 RPM to see how it affects cooling?

How many exhaust fans do you have? You want a "slight" over or positive pressure in the case. That means slightly more coming in than going out. This ensures incoming air only comes in through the [hopefully IMO filtered] intake vents instead of every crack, crevice, and unused port in the computer.

If you have too much positive pressure (not enough exhausting out fast enough) your speeding fans are, in effect, blowing into a solid wall of stagnant air. That can make a LOT of noise.

So what do you have for exhaust? You can count the PSU fan too UNLESS it has its own, dedicated input vent.

Are we talking about the Velox 100P Airflow noted in your System Specs? If so, according to the specs, it comes with 3 x 120mm intake fans in front and just a single exhaust 120mm fan in back. So how do you have 4 "intakes"? Did you turn the rear fan around or add more?

Another big problem is the fact these are 120mm fans. Smaller fans have to spin faster to move the same amount of air as larger fans. Faster RPM, louder the fan noise.

If the Velox, the PSU is mounted in its own chamber and therefore, is useless when it comes to helping out with case cooling.

I see no mention at all in the specs, product description, or the manual about sound or noise suppression. And sadly, the only fan control appears to be for the ARGB lights, not speed. :(

Your case (if it is that Velox 100P) supports 3 x 140mm fans in front, and 2 x 140mm fans up top. Sadly :(, it only supports the single 120mm fan in back. That is not a good design for cooling, IMO.

If fan noise is a concern for you, you clearly bought the wrong case! :(

If me, I would start by getting rid of the front 120mm fans and replace them with 2 quality 140mm fans. And I would get a fan speed controller, one that allows you to control each connected fan individually. If the rear 120mm is noisy, replace it with a high quality 120mm. IF you have space for a thicker fan (the standard is 25mm) get one. Wider blades can scoop up and push more air. If your temps are too high with just those fans, or if you have to push the front fans to maximum speed, I would add a 140mm fan up top, in the back position, as an exhaust and, crossing fingers and toes, hope that keeps the innards properly cooled.

If not, shop for a new case. Your priority should be cooling, noise suppression, aesthetics, in that order. I like Fractal Design. Their fans are great too.

I personally don't understand that MSI Velox. It seems they put aesthetics first, then cooling a distant second, and noise suppression no where on the list. :(
I have 3 intake on the front, and 1 intake above. Not sure I did the right placement.

Yes, why so fast? Mine are under BIOS control and sit at 600 rpm most of the time.
Maybe my fans are not effective but at 600 rpm, the air flow won't even recognizable
 
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The MSI MPG VELOX 100P can handle

  • 7 x 120mm fans
or
  • 5 x 140mm fans and one 120mm at the back

which should result in a good flow even at slow speed.

MSI MPG VELOX 100P.png


The Antec Storm 140 T3 pushes 45 CFM at lowest speed (assuming your case can carry the 30mm depth); that's almost 1 cubic foot per second each fan.

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Yes, why so fast? Mine are under BIOS control and sit at 600 rpm most of the time.
Dont forget the components inside. Different ones have different needs for airflow.
And the more fans you can have the less they have to rotate for the same airflow.

My case is big. I have 6x140 for intake and 3x140+2x120 for exhaust. It’s the best way to be able to dump ~500W of whole system heat out side the case when plying a game.
And even when idling things can get warm/hot if the airflow is too low
 
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I have 3 intake on the front, and 1 intake above. Not sure I did the right placement.
Unless through a top mounted radiator, the "blowhole" (top mounted) fan(s) should always be (with very few exceptions) exhaust. Since heat naturally rises, you want to help it escape, not force it back in. You need to turn that fan over.

With 4 intakes and only 1 exhaust in back, you definitely have too much positive (over) pressure in the case. That does NOT promote air flow. In fact, that can create stagnant, heated air pockets as the heated air cannot escape. It would be like a Super Walmart on Black Friday with 4 entrances and only 1 exit when the fire alarm goes off. Won't be pretty.

Making it worse, that 1 intake up top is not helping, but rather disrupting any flow the front intakes are trying to create. Yeah, turn that fan around.

Maybe my fans are not effective but at 600 rpm, the air flow won't even recognizable
Sorry, but that does not make any sense. What do you mean by "maybe"? You should just know. And how? By monitoring your temps.

And "air flow won't even recognizable" makes no sense either. How is one supposed to "recognize" air flow? I don't understand that at all. :confused: Once again, you ensure you have adequate air flow and cooling by monitoring your temps.

I can tell you this. Unless I am really taxing my system, that vast majority of the time, the only way I know my computer is running is because it is displaying images on my monitors and the drive activity LED occasionally flashes. And the only way I know I have air flow (besides looking through the side panel window for spinning fans), is by sticking my head out by the rear vent to "feel" the warm air gently blowing on my ear.

When I tax my system and my CPU and GPU heat up, then I can start to hear those fans ramp up, and soon, the PSU fan will spin up too. Fortunately, my Fractal Design case fans are great at providing lots of air flowing through the case quietly, and the case itself is great at suppressing fan noise down to a dull drone noise. And noise that remains is typically is drowned out by tunes.

How are you monitoring your temps? HWiNFO64 is an excellent HW monitoring tool but IMO, it is too (if not overwhelmingly) informative for regular, real-time temperature monitoring. So I use and recommend Core Temp to monitor CPU temps in real time. Under Options > Settings > Notification Area, I have mine set to display "Highest temperature" only. That way it only adds 1 temp icon to the System Tray notification area.
 
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Yeah, turn that fan around
Roger!
How is one supposed to "recognize" air flow
When I put my hands behind the fan, I barely feel it.
How are you monitoring your temps?
Actually after applying phase changing interface, the stock cpu cooler is doing nice, hovering between 40-60 celsius. What I have never solved is, the PCH temperature. It is 60C celsius on idle. I know it is not that much, but the pch temp is always easily the most hottest part of my pc. The only relief comes from the front intakes, which sounds like a jet engine at full throttle.
 
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When I put my hands behind the fan, I barely feel it.
But you feel it! That's a good thing as that means some air is being exhausted. But more important is what your monitoring software tells you.

Actually after applying phase changing interface, the stock cpu cooler is doing nice, hovering between 40-60 celsius. What I have never solved is, the PCH temperature. It is 60C celsius on idle. I know it is not that much, but the pch temp is always easily the most hottest part of my pc. The only relief comes from the front intakes, which sounds like a jet engine at full throttle.
Forget all that. Turn that top fan over and see what happens.
 
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Forget all that. Turn that top fan over and see what happens.
Will let you know after reversing the fan. Still, don't expect miracles:/
 
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Nobody is talking about miracles. Miracles are good for getting you out of desperate, no win situations. You are not in one of those. None of your temps now are "bad". Loud fan noise may be a total nuisance but the noise from 4 fans is nothing. Now if were in an environmentally controlled, raised floor equipment room and there were 50 or 60 high speed fans spinning, along with heavy duty AC fans, then some permanent hearing damage may be an issue. Been there, don't that. :(
 
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Nobody is talking about miracles. Miracles are good for getting you out of desperate, no win situations. You are not in one of those. None of your temps now are "bad". Loud fan noise may be a total nuisance but the noise from 4 fans is nothing. Now if were in an environmentally controlled, raised floor equipment room and there were 50 or 60 high speed fans spinning, along with heavy duty AC fans, then some permanent hearing damage may be an issue. Been there, don't that. :(
I think what I want is that kind of solution :) Jokes aside, the temperature was somewhat the same after reversing the top-fan. After I plug out the redundant nvme and hdd connection, the pch temp drops to 44C Celsius.
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I would not call a drop from 60°C to 44°C "somewhat the same".

In any case, and again, that is not bad. Now if me, I would work on decreasing your fan speeds while watching the temps, lowering the speeds as much as possible while keeping temps still decent. If you find you cannot lower the speeds any, then I am back to my comment above about looking for a better case.
 
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I would not call a drop from 60°C to 44°C "somewhat the same".

In any case, and again, that is not bad. Now if me, I would work on decreasing your fan speeds while watching the temps, lowering the speeds as much as possible while keeping temps still decent. If you find you cannot lower the speeds any, then I am back to my comment above about looking for a better case.
Btw, do you think Noctua will help better cooling at the very same rpm? If I buy Noctua will it help?

60°C to 44°C "somewhat the same
This was after de-populating the pci ports (1 nvme and 1 hdd port)
 
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Btw, do you think Noctua will help better cooling at the very same rpm?
You would have to look at the specs of each fan. But if you are looking to buy new fans don't worry about the RPM. The CFM and dBA are the important figures. You want maximum CFM at the lowest dBA level.

Noctua makes great fans but name alone means little.
 
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After I plug out the redundant nvme and hdd connection, the pch temp drops to 44C Celsius.
This was after de-populating the pci ports (1 nvme and 1 hdd port)
We cant have it all, can we?

With just 1 NVMe my PCH temps are at low 40s.
With 3 NVMe + 2 SATA SSDs PCH temps climp to 55~60C.

But honestly... who cares if its not 80+C
 

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I have 5x NVME installed, both chipsets are sitting at 42c right now
 
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We cant have it all, can we?

With just 1 NVMe my PCH temps are at low 40s.
With 3 NVMe + 2 SATA SSDs PCH temps climp to 55~60C.

But honestly... who cares if its not 80+C
Honestly I wasn't expecting that much of drop after removing the extra nvme.

I have 5x NVME installed, both chipsets are sitting at 42c right now
Waovv,just wauvv. What have you done for decreasing pch? is it passively cooled? have you change the thermal pad on the chipset?
 
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Its just stock, with all the cfms that my fans will provide.


18c
There it is...

I remember that you are a cooling freak... lol

18C with max case fan rpm, yeah makes sense.
I have 60C with 24C room and <1000rpm
 
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@mclaren85 , as you can tell from all previous posts there is no simple answer on the evolved question.

You want to move air through your pc-case in order to remove the dissipiated heat generated by your pc hardware.
So depending on the generated heat and efficiency of your cooling solution(s), you'll have to move a certain volume of air in a certain time span through your pc-case, with emphasis on cool air in, hot air out.
For that it is common practice to use a forced airflow generated by fans which are available in numerous different designs and specifications.
Every fan will produce sound, each with different amplitudes and frequencies.

Noise is also defined as unwanted sound (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise), but don't forget it is also about induvidual perception and always a combination of amplitudes and frequencies.
Due to the extend and limitations of human hearing, desktop-pc fans are developed to comply within generally acceptable sound parameters according to the human sound perception.

But because we are all individuals with slightly different perception levels and acceptance criteria regarding sound at given frequencies & amplitudes, what one finds acceptable can be a no-go for you.

As you also can distract from the answers that fan 'noise' is just a small piece of the whole pc-cooling puzzle, where changing just one variable affects a number of others.

And that is where the magic starts, the enjoyable and educational journey towards a well performing pc with a grasp on the complexity of optimal cooling within the for you acceptable boundaries of 'noise'.
PC-cooling questions often lead to heated discussions ;), depending on the dominating parameters: do you use temps as the base parameter or sound (noise)?

My advise; try both, use physics combined with common sense :D and get the best out of your hardware.
 
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There it is...

I remember that you are a cooling freak... lol

18C with max case fan rpm, yeah makes sense.
I have 60C with 24C room and <1000rpm
Hate to tell but you are killing your hardware:(

@mclaren85 , as you can tell from all previous posts there is no simple answer on the evolved question.

You want to move air through your pc-case in order to remove the dissipiated heat generated by your pc hardware.
So depending on the generated heat and efficiency of your cooling solution(s), you'll have to move a certain volume of air in a certain time span through your pc-case, with emphasis on cool air in, hot air out.
For that it is common practice to use a forced airflow generated by fans which are available in numerous different designs and specifications.
Every fan will produce sound, each with different amplitudes and frequencies.

Noise is also defined as unwanted sound (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise), but don't forget it is also about induvidual perception and always a combination of amplitudes and frequencies.
Due to the extend and limitations of human hearing, desktop-pc fans are developed to comply within generally acceptable sound parameters according to the human sound perception.

But because we are all individuals with slightly different perception levels and acceptance criteria regarding sound at given frequencies & amplitudes, what one finds acceptable can be a no-go for you.

As you also can distract from the answers that fan 'noise' is just a small piece of the whole pc-cooling puzzle, where changing just one variable affects a number of others.

And that is where the magic starts, the enjoyable and educational journey towards a well performing pc with a grasp on the complexity of optimal cooling within the for you acceptable boundaries of 'noise'.
PC-cooling questions often lead to heated discussions ;), depending on the dominating parameters: do you use temps as the base parameter or sound (noise)?

My advise; try both, use physics combined with common sense :D and get the best out of your hardware.
Thanks for this informative post, I appreciate. If possible I would built a non fan setup so there would be no noise.:) I know that is quite impossible as of now
 
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You have 3 intake fans, but what size are they?

The difference between 120mm and 140mm can be significant; compare the Antec Storms
  • Storm 120 at 600 rpm has 10 CFM,
  • Storm 140 T3 at 600 rpm has 45 CFM
that is one BIG difference.

Silent is impossible but quiet may be attainable.

Antec T30.jpg


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Hate to tell but you are killing your hardware:(
At least I have them already in a cozy grave...

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You are worrying too much...
60C is nothing for the chipsets
 

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I thought my case was big..

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Also running my fans like a "normal" person right now, waiting for my chipsets to catch fire, so far they are climbing :D
 
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Everything looks fine to me

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