Rumors raise the doubt that Google Stadia service will last much longer.

[thewan]

Menawhile, ... Sony's Playstation Now service is in a similar dire circumstances and is also looking at restructuring and might be combining its PS services into a single one.

What cave did you crawl out from? PS Now has already ceased to exist and has been merged with PS Plus to form the new PS Plus tiers since June. There are no more "similar dire circumstances" when it doesn't exist in this world anymore.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

What cave did you crawl out from? PS Now has already ceased to exist and has been merged with PS Plus to form the new PS Plus tiers since June. There are no more "similar dire circumstances" when it doesn't exist in this world anymore.

I dont follow console news, that bit was part of what I read, if its dated news, oh well, you should have crawled out from yours sooner to correct that bit.

Too late to edit the OP, so go crawl back to your rock.

 

[bonehead123]

Google has/had a gammin service.... who knew ../s..

disclaimer: I don't play gams on my 'puter, so that's why I don't/woulda neva cared in the least !

 

[R0H1T]

There are no more "similar dire circumstances" when it doesn't exist in this world anymore.

Just because they're renamed it to PS Plus or heck Optimus Prime doesn't mean it's not in a (relatively) dire circumstance! In the gaming space there's MS & then there's the rest, in fact Sony doesn't even count as a competitor to whatever MS is doing right now & it'll take years before they get close. Many others have quit way before that.

 

[cvaldes]

And nothing of value was lost.

This is wrong.

Google spent cash on this operation and continues to do so today. This impacts shareholder equity. If Google had not pursued a gaming service, they would have more cash for other activities, (R&D, SG&A, M&A, share buybacks, capital expenditures, etc.). Hell, at this point the money they have spent would have been better off as a stock dividend.

Google's gaming efforts have not resulted in an increase in shareholder value.

Stadia's failure impacts Alphabet shareholders. If you are an American with a retirement or pension plan, you almost certainly are an indirect shareholder of Alphabet.

This isn't specific to Alphabet/Google. Anytime any company spends money to do something that doesn't work out, something was indeed lost.

If you were a bakery owner that spend money on employee salaries, flour, sugar, electricity for ovens, sheet pans, etc. to bake cookies that didn't sell out, you'd certainly feel that something was lost.

These are fundamentals of running a business, from the little kid with a lemonade stand all the way up to the world's largest corporations.

You didn't understand this at all.

Disclaimer: I am an indirect GOOG shareholder. I have also tried the Stadia service on several occasions.

 

[Vayra86]

Google has/had a gammin service.... who knew ../s..

disclaimer: I don't play gams on my 'puter, so that's why I don't/woulda neva cared in the least !

I'm still gammin in the name of the lord

We're gammin...
Sorry, tune just popped up in my head reading that

 

[chrcoluk]

Investing in google is like playing the lottery, they are very unpredictable with so many abandoned projects.

Category:Discontinued Google services - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[cvaldes]

Investing in google is like playing the lottery, they are very unpredictable with so many abandoned projects.

To be clear, Alphabet is one of the largest corporations in the USA whose revenues are mostly generated by Google Adwords over decades of operation. If you or a fund administrator invests in large cap ETFs or mutual funds, it's pretty difficult to exclude investment in a company like GOOG or various other Internet companies.

Remember that GOOG is a MAJOR component of both the S&P 500 and Nasdaq indexes.

These types of Internet service companies often experiment in new technologies and services and most of them don't gain any traction. For years Apple treated Apple TV as a "hobby" (their words) and it still isn't the dominant force in streaming video services.

Like I said, most Americans with a retirement/pension plan are already partly exposed to Alphabet/Google because of the company's market capitalization. You can't just cherry pick which Alphabet business units you invest in. You can't just say that you want to invest in Google Search and Android OS but not Waymo or Google Voice.

Most of the top 10 tech businesses currently make money from business units that were once considered "risky" at one point.

Microsoft and Amazon make huge revenue from cloud computing although Microsoft mostly sold operating systems and office productivity software at one point, and Amazon sold books and music CDs. Remember, Xbox was once considered extremely risky. Today Apple splits out Services as a separate business unit because of significant growth over the years. Twenty years ago, there was very little in the way of service revenue.

Let's remember that not every activity that any of these companies gets involved in is expected to instantaneously make billions of high-margin profit.

The problem with Stadia is that Alphabet's activity appears to be headed the wrong direction, opposite to where the gaming industry is headed. A polite description of their commitment would be "unenthusiastic."

 

[chrcoluk]

Well I more meant investing time (money in the case of stadia) as a consumer in using those products, apologies for my wording.

 

[cvaldes]

Well I more meant investing time (money in the case of stadia) as a consumer in using those products, apologies for my wording.

This makes no sense. Your comments was specific about investing. If you buy $1000 in GOOG shares, you don't get to allocate where your investment goes for how long. You give the money to Alphabet for them to decide where it is best used.

Yes, the consumer can decide on how much to spend on Stadia. Of course, one can choose to spend nothing now and wait for the service to mature.

And remember that spending money on Stadia, GeForce NOW, Apple Music, whatever isn't investing in GOOG, NVDA, AAPL. Those are all expenses. Buying a Radeon RX 6800 XT graphics card isn't an investment in AMD. It's an expense.

Again, the problem is that Alphabet's commitment to Stadia is highly suspect and isn't particularly encouraging.

It's worth pointing out that most of Google's failed products and services had a free tier. I've tried most of them (Picasa, Wave, Plus, whatever). It's up to each individual to decide how much time to spend on any given service (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Myspace, Path, Periscope, Flickr, Vimeo, whatever).

One thing for sure, Alphabet has a lot of financial resources and can keep services running far longer than some tiny little startup with almost no money. I use quite a few services today that might not be around had Alphabet/Google not acquired them. Did you use YouTube before Google's acquisition? I did.

And money doesn't guarantee success either. Look at Siri, Apple's personal assistant, arguably neglected compared to Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant.

The point of this thread discussion is Google Stadia's viability as a competitive cloud gaming service and Alphabet business unit with future revenue generation prospects.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anyone adamant enough to follow any gaming news should recall Google opening its own gaming studios with HUGE promises. Events, including those of the competition, since that announcement has seen Google shutdown its development studios and kick about 150 employees to the curb.

Google Steps Out Of Games Development By Closing Stadia Games Studios

Google is getting out of the game-making business after it announced the closure of Stadia’s Montreal and Los Angeles studios.

www.thegamer.com

Google Stadia claimed it was changing its business focus in the same breath.

Google Stadia Shuts Down Internal Studios, Changing Business Focus

Google Stadia, the late 2019 streaming platform that promised to revolutionize gaming by letting users stream games without needing to own a powerful PC or console, is altering course, getting out of the game-making business and will now offer its platform directly to game publishers alongside...

kotaku.com

Part of that re-focus was because Stadia never did meet its subscription target. The claim dates back to 2H 2020. Recent news articles on business/corporate news focused sites are the source for the actual rumors that Google end Stadia as we know it.

Google Has "Deprioritized" Stadia According To New Report

As Game Pass continues to grow, Google could be set to scrap Stadia

www.thegamer.com

Assuming Google never did meet its goals since, it puts the Stadia service in a very desperate position, what it will do exactly is unknown but it is an inevitable change, maybe copying other streaming platforms or become partners with other services. Whatever Google does, will likely fail, such history repeats too often with Google.

Menawhile, ... Sony's Playstation Now service is in a similar dire circumstances and is also looking at restructuring and might be combining its PS services into a single one.

Rumors are so much fun. What if...

IMO Stadia was doomed from the start so it comes as no surprised and many of us here on TPU shared the prediction that this was bound to, and was actually going to happen with time. That time has come folks.

To sum up;

Game streaming is a crap experience that has no mass market appeal and never will. Stadia was a failure before it launched as is all the other game streaming services.

 

[eidairaman1]

To sum up;

Game streaming is a crap experience that has no mass market appeal and never will. Stadia was a failure before it launched as is all the other game streaming services.

Nothing beats real local hardware.

Back in the Early 80s computers were just nodes with no harddrive, and were slow relying on a mainframe/server for everything.

This is why I still prefer Optical media for large software, 1 it reduces installation time, 2 no worry about the network going down or software being lost

 

[lexluthermiester]

This is why I still prefer Optical media for large software, 1 it reduces installation time, 2 no worry about the network going down or software being lost

Exactly this!

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Attention Stadia Fans!

Stadia is NOT closing!
(maybe)

The woes are still real until disputed with facts.

These two links do not have direct quotes from anyone official at Stadia(google), nor were there any official tweets. The first link does not have a source so should be taken with a grain of doubt. The second was posted by what appears to be a Stadia fanboi regular player.

Google is not shutting down Stadia

Contrary to what you may have heard in the past few days, Google says it’s not shutting down its Stadia gaming service.

www.engadget.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/wb1rl0

What this seems like to me is a drama contest, fanboi vs hater, and without official word the only thing you can do is sit back and enjoy the popcorn.

 

[eidairaman1]

Attention Stadia Fans!

Stadia is NOT closing!
(maybe)

The woes are still real until disputed with facts.

These two links do not have direct quotes from anyone official at Stadia(google), nor were there any official tweets. The first link does not have a source so should be taken with a grain of doubt. The second was posted by what appears to be a Stadia fanboi regular player.

Google is not shutting down Stadia

Contrary to what you may have heard in the past few days, Google says it’s not shutting down its Stadia gaming service.

www.engadget.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/wb1rl0

What this seems like to me is a drama contest, fanboi vs hater, and without official word the only thing you can do is sit back and enjoy the popcorn.

Denial is the first step to closure

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Frankly never heard of stadia
Seeing I have a gmail account I'm surprised I'm not already counted as a user of this service like some other google stuff they tried that with to show it wasn't a total failure

Either way next failure I hope is googletube yeah dream a little dream right

 

[Palladium]

Good, I hope more rent seeking-as-services dies.

 

[R-T-B]

Investing in google is like playing the lottery, they are very unpredictable with so many abandoned projects.

Category:Discontinued Google services - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No, not really, because there is only one stock for them and historically it's been a winner. The services they open and close make no difference to an investor if money flows.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Alright folks its official! Stadia has posted on twitter.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552989433590214656

 

[Steevo]

Local Politics is actually the reason for arcades to disappear here, they are still seen as 'gathering' places for problem teens with accusation of drug dealing, encouraging skipping school, loitering, meeting places for social rebellion, anything local government can think up as an excuse to close it down if they cant prevent one from going up. One popular restaurant and arcade, Dave and Busters, they force it to close down very early (8-9pm) just because of the arcade section.

D&B ( still have my gold card) used to be such an amazing place for parents and kids. It was a great time, better than gambling if you were good at a few game’s and could handle a few drinks and or a few puffs. I got knocked down once by a couple guys who scattered when they realized I was gonna tear them up and I knew then it was the beginning of the end where Dbags were showing up just be be the sad unhappy angry people they were.

A lot of small towns in the US are trying to revamp Main Street and this is a part of it, arcades, movies, community and need to be there, mini golf, competitive but fun activities and people need to be tough enough to show the Dbags the door with force if need be.

 

[Vayra86]

Denial is the first step to closure

Yep.

Google was scrambling to correct the reality and keep the sheeple subbing. There is but one reason: denial was needed to keep the ship from sinking. Put differently, the rats already left it, its holding on for dear life now.

Its going down. The momentum is gone.

Alright folks its official! Stadia has posted on twitter.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552989433590214656

Oh, now we can trust a BU not to lie to us about things totally not in their hands? Interesting take on measuring credibility. A twitter post isnt even a press release

This company has a track record. Nothing is shutting down ever, until it does. Recent events across the globe have underlined this in every possible way - this is standard operating procedure.

Fact is, a real service 'here to stay' does not ever need to talk about it. It just exists and you know it will. Stadia was never in that category nor will it ever be.

Fact #2: the pandemic is over we aint got time or money for this and the service has never turned a profit. Simple math... It won't suddenly start making money anytime soon. That ship has sailed.

Google is not shutting down Stadia

Contrary to what you may have heard in the past few days, Google says it’s not shutting down its Stadia gaming service.

www.engadget.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/wb1rl0

Positive facts some drip feed of updates and some indie revenue plus another bunch of total nothing points of interest with keyword 'maybe'. This is utterly desolate in terms of future plans. It only confirms more than anything there is not much investment going on. Entering new markets is also not making a better service, its servicing more with the same story - cost reduction.

Hi,
Frankly never heard of stadia
Seeing I have a gmail account I'm surprised I'm not already counted as a user of this service like some other google stuff they tried that with to show it wasn't a total failure

Either way next failure I hope is googletube yeah dream a little dream right

Youtube I reckon won't be going anywhere, contrary to other social platforms.

 

[eidairaman1]

Alright folks its official! Stadia has posted on twitter.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552989433590214656

Still more denial, SM people are usually the last to know what the status of a product is

D&B ( still have my gold card) used to be such an amazing place for parents and kids. It was a great time, better than gambling if you were good at a few game’s and could handle a few drinks and or a few puffs. I got knocked down once by a couple guys who scattered when they realized I was gonna tear them up and I knew then it was the beginning of the end where Dbags were showing up just be be the sad unhappy angry people they were.

A lot of small towns in the US are trying to revamp Main Street and this is a part of it, arcades, movies, community and need to be there, mini golf, competitive but fun activities and people need to be tough enough to show the Dbags the door with force if need be.

Yeah only a small few troublemakers need the boot.

Hire Bouncers/Guards that are armed to prevent soft target incidences in said places.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Yep.

Google was scrambling to correct the reality and keep the sheeple subbing. There is but one reason: denial was needed to keep the ship from sinking. Put differently, the rats already left it, its holding on for dear life now.

Its going down. The momentum is gone.


Oh, now we can trust a BU not to lie to us about things totally not in their hands? Interesting take on measuring credibility. A twitter post isnt even a press release

This company has a track record. Nothing is shutting down ever, until it does. Recent events across the globe have underlined this in every possible way - this is standard operating procedure.

Fact is, a real service 'here to stay' does not ever need to talk about it. It just exists and you know it will. Stadia was never in that category nor will it ever be.

Fact #2: the pandemic is over we aint got time or money for this and the service has never turned a profit. Simple math... It won't suddenly start making money anytime soon. That ship has sailed.



Positive facts some drip feed of updates and some indie revenue plus another bunch of total nothing points of interest with keyword 'maybe'. This is utterly desolate in terms of future plans. It only confirms more than anything there is not much investment going on. Entering new markets is also not making a better service, its servicing more with the same story - cost reduction.


Youtube I reckon won't be going anywhere, contrary to other social platforms.

I think there is a chance that even tho they said Stadia was not going down, it may get rolled into something else and they will technically claim that it didnt actually shut down.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Still more denial, SM people are usually the last to know what the status of a product is

I think he was joking. Perhaps a bit too subtle maybe..

I think there is a chance that even tho they said Stadia was not going down, it may get rolled into something else and they will technically claim that it didnt actually shut down.

It's getting shut down. NVidia's GeforceNow is faltering and on life-support. The writing is on the wall.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

The writing is on the wall.

my wall says "for a good time call..."

Ok lets speculate some, granted Stadia is going down one way or another, I'll stick to my guess (stadia gets rick rolled) and you to your guess its going to a be a complete shutdown.