RX 5700XT or spend more on RTX 2070 Super?

[Vayra86]

Just BUY IT already OP, JFC this amount of drama just for one fking GPU.

I hear they have a vacancy at the Nike marketing team

Huang applied with "It just works!" but didn't get the position.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Dude just want a taste of that delicious “All AMD” rig, why you so harsh?
Let OP have what his heart desires, either a 5700XT sidegrade or a Radeon 7 sidegrade.

Just BUY IT already OP, JFC this amount of drama just for one fking GPU.

I was pretty bummed the 5700XT wasn't better so that I could do an all AMD build for my wife in fact I was so disappointing I ended up just buying myself a 2080 ti instead.

 

[kings]

None of these cards are worth it, for those with a 1080Ti.

It's spending money just for spending, in my opinion!

 

[cucker tarlson]

Dude just want a taste of that delicious “All AMD” rig, why you so harsh?
Let OP have what his heart desires, either a 5700XT sidegrade or a Radeon 7 sidegrade.

Just BUY IT already OP, JFC this amount of drama just for one fking GPU.

all the charm of "all this/all that" rigs passes quickly.spend money on whatever is best for you.

imo he got a 3900x and wants an amd card.if so then go for it.5700xt is one of their best gpus ever.but the problem is 1080ti is one of nvidia's best,and he's a got a liquid version.

 

[Shou Miko]

all the charm of "all this/all that" rigs passes quickly.spend money on whatever is best for you.

imo he got a 3900x and wants an amd card.if so then go for it.5700xt is one of their best gpus ever.but the problem is 1080ti is one of nvidia's best,and he's a got a liquid version.

I made it hybrid cooled with EVGA's kit it was born as a Founders Edition blowerstyle

 

[cucker tarlson]

I made it hybrid cooled with EVGA's kit it was born as a Founders Edition blowerstyle

don't matter.

 

[Komshija]

RX 5700XT without a single doubt. It's significantly cheaper and offers more or less comparable performance to RTX 2070 Super. There are some small differences - sometimes RX 5700XT will be slightly faster and sometimes RTX 2070 Super will be slightly faster, but nothing noticeable in real life.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

RX 5700XT without a single doubt. It's significantly cheaper and offers more or less comparable performance to RTX 2070 Super. There are some small differences - sometimes RX 5700XT will be slightly faster and sometimes RTX 2070 Super will be slightly faster, but nothing noticeable in real life.

Hey look we are back to this same logic again:

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2070S
Then 2070S is "more or less" versus 2080
Then 2080 is "more or less" versus 2080S

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2080S.

We have come full cycle to the 1st page of this post.

We should all encourage OP to just buy the damn 5700XT and be done with it. OK I am outta this thread~

 

[Komshija]

Hey look we are back to this same logic again:

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2070S
Then 2070S is "more or less" versus 2080
Then 2080 is "more or less" versus 2080S

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2080S.

We have come full cycle to the 1st page of this post.

We should all encourage OP to just buy the damn 5700XT and be done with it. OK I am outta this thread~

Maybe buying the one of the most expensive versions of RTX 2080 Ti (EVGA's) will do the trick? I doubt that getting one for free is an option for OP.
The performance difference between RX 5700XT and RTX 2070 Super is practically negligible, but price differences between these two are substantial. Even with RTX 2080 Ti, OP will get approximately 30% better performance in games, but at what cost?
It's reasonable to pay 10-15% more for 10% increase in performance, 30-40% more for 30% performance increase, but it's plain stupid to pay 50% more for 10% better performance - regardless for which piece of hardware.

 

[potato580+]

Hey look we are back to this same logic again:

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2070S
Then 2070S is "more or less" versus 2080
Then 2080 is "more or less" versus 2080S

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2080S.

We have come full cycle to the 1st page of this post.

We should all encourage OP to just buy the damn 5700XT and be done with it. OK I am outta this thread~

make senses, op i strongly recomend this, fuq the aorus ads, just focus on the card

 

[cucker tarlson]

Maybe buying the one of the most expensive versions of RTX 2080 Ti (EVGA's) will do the trick? I doubt that getting one for free is an option for OP.
The performance difference between RX 5700XT and RTX 2070 Super is practically negligible, but price differences between these two are substantial. Even with RTX 2080 Ti, OP will get approximately 30% better performance in games, but at what cost?
It's reasonable to pay 10-15% more for 10% increase in performance, 30-40% more for 30% performance increase, but it's plain stupid to pay 50% more for 10% better performance - regardless for which piece of hardware.

2070 super is 15-20% more for 10-15% more performance.

 

[blued]

Hey look we are back to this same logic again:

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2070S
Then 2070S is "more or less" versus 2080
Then 2080 is "more or less" versus 2080S

So 5700XT is "more or less" versus 2080S.

We have come full cycle to the 1st page of this post.

We should all encourage OP to just buy the damn 5700XT and be done with it. OK I am outta this thread~

Yeah.... "more or less"... . Why not go for a regular 5700 since its "more or less" a 5700xt. Or a vega 64 since its more or less a 5700.

 

[btarunr]

Having lived with an RX 5700 XT on 1440p for 3 months, I have to say it has plenty of muscle. I've played nearly every AAA title from August forwards, and I never faced performance deficit maxing out settings. There were some driver stability issues, which got solved in September IIRC. I'm now on an RTX 2080 Super, and barring "Control," I haven't seen a game that wowed me with RTX eye-candy. So I'll have to recommend you pick up one of the nicer RX 5700 XT cards such as MSI Gaming X or PowerColor Red Devil and spend the savings (vs 2070S) on a couple new games.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah.... "more or less"... . Why not go for a regular 5700 since its "more or less" a 5700xt. Or a vega 64 since its more or less a 5700.

Well, realistically you could and you wouldn't game single second less for it. That is what the current upper midrange > high end looks like now. And the same has happened before to the midrange. There is no real movement in the product stacks since Pascal was fully released. We're still more or less stuck at 1080ti levels, with one halo card above it. 2080 might as well not exist, its pretty pointless, and the rest is filler.

When you're talking about single digit % differences, you know you really shouldn't bother and wait it out, or go for the value option - not the performance one. Regardless of what you choose, both cards will be overtaken in the same time.

 

[xBruce88x]

Stick with the 5700 if it's better for your budget, unless you really want to try out nvidia's RTX. Though keep in mind there will be an fps drop.

As for gsync, it should be available on amd cards as well soon,
G-Sync on AMD
So buy whatever monitor you want and hope they release a firmware update, or wait until one comes out that's certified ready to go

 

[sn2x]

I'd go for the 2070 Super and overclock it to ~2080 level.

Control was pretty amazing with RTX.

Going from 1080 Ti to 5700XT is a downgrade. 1080 Ti to 2070 Super you get similar performance in traditional games but a massive boost to Ray Tracing performance.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You have a nice system, just dig a little deeper and go 2080 super

I have to agree with this as the 2080s is now at $700 at most etailers. This of course is presuming you want RTRT FX in games supporting it. If that's not important to you, it might be wise to wait for the Radeon RX5800's to release, which are impending.

 

[potato580+]

I have to agree with this as the 2080s is now at $700 at most etailers. This of course is presuming you want RTRT FX in games supporting it. If that's not important to you, it might be wise to wait for the Radeon RX5800's to release, which are impending.

i have full expectation on next gen 580 wohoo, will wait patiently ofcourse

 

[cucker tarlson]

i have full expectation on next gen 580 wohoo, will wait patiently ofcourse

next gen 580 is 5600xt not 5800xt. it'll come in January with 6 gigs of memory
5800xt is gonna be a +$500 gpu if it ever arrives

 

[potato580+]

next gen 580 is 5600xt and 5800xt and it'll come with 6 gigs of memory
5800 is gonna be a +$500 gpu if it ever arrives

nah i just count it as the next 580(becouse this is my favorite cards so far), take my word back, leave the generation term, and it should be 580 brother rx5800 hehe

 

[oxrufiioxo]

nah i just count it as the next 580(becouse this is my favorite cards so far), take my word back, leave the generation term, and it should be 580 brother rx5800 hehe

You'll have to change your name to Potato5800++

 

[cucker tarlson]

nah i just count it as the next 580(this is my favorite cards so far), take my word back, leave the generation term, and it should be 580 brother rx5800 hehe

5800xt will target 2080 OG just like 5700xt targets 2070 OG.
but honestly I doubt this card will actually be released.there's no point in doing so to compete with a nvidia card that'll already be like 1.5 years old.
what is the point of amd releasing 5800xt in jan-feb-march on 1st gen rdna if nvidia's gonna have 7nm ampere soon to follow,and they'll crush it with performance and feature set.
imo amd should focus on rdna 2 rx6700 card in June/July.

what would you rather have ? a $500 5800 that'll be obsolete almost on launch or wait till rdna 2 and buy a card as fast,with dxr support and lower price ?

 

[Deleted member 50521]

RDNA2 design will be revealed at CES. I suspect there will be no stronger GPU than 5700XT on Gen1 Navi.

 

[John Naylor]

@John Naylor you can't compare $ prices across the sea in europe it doesn't work like that sadly.

First thing I check when I prepare a response is the OPs location as listed in their profile and uses pcpartpicker pricing for whatever country is listed . Sadly, all I had to go by was "Whatever my internet protocol shows I guess "

I made it hybrid cooled with EVGA's kit it was born as a Founders Edition blowerstyle

Problem with many of the modified and OEM hybrids, is the limiting performance factor is the PCB. Its been 3 generations since Ive seen an AIB card limited my temps /... with a few exceptions:

EVGA 970 SC .... 1/3 of the Heat sink "missed' the GPU
EVGA 1060 / 1070 / 1080 SC & FTW .... early versions were missing thermal pads which led to some "pyrotechnics".

 

[Komshija]

2070 super is 15-20% more for 10-15% more performance.

I just made a statement about pricing in general, not necessarily meaning that RTX 2070 Super is 50% more expensive. In my country and neighboring countries average RX 5700XT is about 25-30% cheaper than average RTX 2070 Super. RX 5700XT is currently the best (new) buy on the market - it will be outstanding for 1080p gaming and excellent for 1440p gaming.
Long gone are the days when you could get brand new top-notch GPU (like RTX 2080 Ti or RTX 2080 Super are today) for 600€.