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Ryzen 3000 listed online early on russian site.

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IMO you can tell when somethings going to suck, because they rev up the hype train

the quieter launches are when they know the product will speak for itself
 

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Except that this isn't AMD revving up the hype train. AMD is staying tight lipped.

exactly my point... they seem pretty confident here, with the expected last minute surprise/reveal of a 32C monster to smash intel with
 
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They did the same with Zen 1. It's kinda weird for them to be this quiet.
On the other hand... "Look, Radeon 7nm, better than 2080, now with an Nvidia price! Please don't look at the power consumption or the lack of any new feature..."
 
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