Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Calmmo]

That's what you get for not putting enough points in cool.

 

[Chomiq]

My system specs off

no CPU yet

I had the 5600X at launch but had to sell for emergency reasons

now I await getting another

Go back to the end of the line, you're not cool enough

 

[Durvelle27]

That's what you get for not putting enough points in cool.

I can do IOUs

 

[INSTG8R]

It’s apparently looking that way from what I experienced and hope it gets fixed before my 5600X gets here hopefully this week...

Gigabyte Zen 3 bios is shitty.

How they get up to F31Q with 1.1.0.0 and still the mess I saw last night really has me worried...For Zen 2 it’s been absolutely rock solid...

 

[nasky]

Do you guys know if there is some sort of adaptive downlock on FCLK on zen 2 processors ?

I'm saying this because I'm undervolting my soc because Asus auto is stupidly high (1100mV), so basically I went all the way down to 875mV stable but I lost 200pts on cinebench, going up to 925mV I recovered my initial performance, my FCLK is set at 1766 BTW

 

[AusWolf]

Do you guys know if there is some sort of adaptive downlock on FCLK on zen 2 processors ?

I'm saying this because I'm undervolting my soc because Asus auto is stupidly high (1100mV), so basically I went all the way down to 875mV stable but I lost 200pts on cinebench, going up to 925mV I recovered my initial performance, my FCLK is set at 1766 BTW

I'm not so sure, but there is definitely an "adaptive downclock" on the CPU. Since the memory controller is within the CPU package, I guess your CPU clocks somehow got affected by reducing the SOC voltage.

I personally leave everything on Auto, unless I'm experiencing overheating and/or stability issues - except for the Asus optimizer (or whatever it's called) which basically just pumps voltage into the CPU until it can keep its single core turbo speed all the time (which I don't need anyway).

 

[nasky]

I'm not so sure, but there is definitely an "adaptive downclock" on the CPU. Since the memory controller is within the CPU package, I guess your CPU clocks somehow got affected by reducing the SOC voltage.

I personally leave everything on Auto, unless I'm experiencing overheating and/or stability issues - except for the Asus optimizer (or whatever it's called) which basically just pumps voltage into the CPU until it can keep its single core turbo speed all the time (which I don't need anyway).

I dont use PBO and manually set CPU voltage and multiplier on the bios so I dont think CPU is downclocked since I only touch the soc voltage ( + vddp/g)

By manually setting soc voltage I reduced CPU temperature by 7°C and around 6W on soc side so defintiely something to look for

 

[INSTG8R]

I dont use PBO and manually set CPU voltage and multiplier on the bios so I dont think CPU is downclocked since I only touch the soc voltage ( + vddp/g)

By manually setting soc voltage I reduced CPU temperature by 7°C and around 6W on soc side so defintiely something to look for

Well yeah setting multi manually will set it static at whatever you chose and never downclock

 

[nasky]

so no clue as to why manually undervolting soc to a certain extent can reduce performance on zen2 while being stable ?

 

[INSTG8R]

so no clue as to why manually undervolting soc to a certain extent can reduce performance on zen2 while being stable ?

Well SoC handles the RAM/IF so maybe the loss is coming from there

 

[nasky]

Well SoC handles the RAM/IF so maybe the loss is coming from there

Ok so you have no clue too

My experience shows me that if voltage is insufficient you'll get unstabilities not drop of performance that is why I am asking the question here, can someone reproduce this behaviour ?

 

[INSTG8R]

Ok so you have no clue too

My experience shows me that if voltage is insufficient you'll get unstabilities not drop of performance that is why I am asking the question here, can someone reproduce this behaviour ?

the SoC literally controls the RAM and Infinity fabric relations. How low are you actually trying to set it? you're trying to stay "around" 1.1 mine runs at 1.092 lowering below 1.1 would never do anything that would improve performance that is for certain,,,,

 

[Alyjen]

Late vote for mobo discussion. Asus TUF GAMING B550-Plus here (no wifi, full ATX) zero issues with my 5800X.
Some minor hiccups while setting IF and memory OC, but that to be expected. Yes it lacks some features (like internal USB type-c header), yes there are other mobos with better features if you don't mind reliability (MSI) or BIOS quality (Gigabyte) but so far this one just works. That's my 3rd Asus since 2500K times, all of them still working somewhere in the world

 

[INSTG8R]

So are a few of my old TUF Sabertooths my buddy still runs my 2600K P67 Sabertooth @4.6 24/7
unfortunately my Z97 Sabertooth MK1 has a bent pin so it’s in storage.

 

[BMfan80]

I would like some advice,please.
At the moment my Corsair 3733 ram is running at 4000 at the default 3733 timings and 1,4v.
My Fclk\Uclk is sitting at 2000mhz with an SOC voltage of 1,1mv.

I would like to know if the voltages are fine or should they be lower?
I don't want to use stock SOC voltage because my montherboard sets it to 1,18mv.

 

[nasky]

the SoC literally controls the RAM and Infinity fabric relations. How low are you actually trying to set it? you're trying to stay "around" 1.1 mine runs at 1.092 lowering below 1.1 would never do anything that would improve performance that is for certain,,,,

Ok buddy.

 

[biffzinker]

I don't want to use stock SOC voltage because my montherboard sets it to 1,18mv.

My B450 Tomahawk defaults to 1.030 at 2400 MHz then at 3200 MHz 1.10, and with four slots at 3333 MHz 1.198. Can be dropped down to 1.148 stable.

 

[INSTG8R]

All fine as far as I’m concerned if it’s stable

Ok buddy.

Well do go on and explain to me what the SoC does instead of that useless reply...

 

[sam_86314]

Went ahead and snagged the X570 TUF board, and I'm back in business!

So I guess my MSI motherboard did end up dying. My CPU, memory, GPU, PSU, and storage drives are all fine. Guess I'll be staying far away from MSI products in the future.

I'm using my Wraith Spire cooler for now. Not sure if I'll go back to the R1 because it's a huge PITA to install. Also took the time to redo my cable management using copious amounts of zip ties. It's much better now. Might share a picture in the future, I dunno.

Here's hoping this board won't also die after a year and ten months.

This whole ordeal has kind of scared me away from tweaking memory timings. Guess I'm gonna just stick to 2933MHz and whatever timings the board decides are right.

@Chloe Price Didn't you have the motherboard in your Ryzen system die a while back?

EDIT: Found out that my MSI board is still under warranty. Gonna see what I can do with that.

 

[thesmokingman]

Ok buddy.

Soo no clue then?

 

[Mussels]

Scores lower cause its unstable and error correction is catching the errors, but wasting CPU cycles to try again

 

[sam_86314]

So I was looking into my memory timings since the board defaults are garbage (and I never learn), and I saw in AIDA64 under the XMP section a bunch of timing lists.

Out of curiosity, I entered the ones for 3200MHz, and so far no issues (gonna run MemTest86+ tonight to make sure).

Anyone know where AIDA64 is grabbing these values? I've looked in CPU-Z and even my BIOS, and they only show the 3600MHz CL18 XMP profile.

Also, has anyone else had their motherboard die (MSI or other) when they went to change memory timings, or did I just get extremely unlucky?

Also guess I'm flexing my single-rank 16GB DIMMs since apparently those are rare?

 

[INSTG8R]

So I was looking into my memory timings since the board defaults are garbage (and I never learn), and I saw in AIDA64 under the XMP section a bunch of timing lists.

Out of curiosity, I entered the ones for 3200MHz, and so far no issues (gonna run MemTest86+ tonight to make sure).

Anyone know where AIDA64 is grabbing these values? I've looked in CPU-Z and even my BIOS, and they only show the 3600MHz CL18 XMP profile.

Also, has anyone else had their motherboard die (MSI or other) when they went to change memory timings, or did I just get extremely unlucky?

Also guess I'm flexing my single-rank 16GB DIMMs since apparently those are rare?

I mean I guess so? it's just extended timings for the clock stepping as far as I'm concerned

 

[Ruru]

Damn that I'm too lazy to get faster RAM, this month's budget goes for GPU upgrade.. still kickin' with DDR4-2400

 

[freeagent]

Hey just curious.. what would you consider to be high voltage for a 3600? Would you be ok running 1.36v or so?