Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[HTC]

@HTC you could just go with win10?

You should be able to enter the win7 key during the install or skip and activate it with the key following the install.

Installation on my setup (Asrock mb/1600X) took less than 20 minutes with no problems.

Sorry: will not use Win 10.

If i can't get Win 7 to work, I'll use Linux.

 

[Shou Miko]

@HTC afraid Microsoft want to know all about u? Well if they wanted they could release all the same functions in a "mandatory" update for Windows 7 so u will feel the same about Windows 7 on that point of view as many do with Windows 10.

With my Windows 10 Pro I only use the Creator Update, normal updates r disabled, I am using a local account there is no way in hell I will create a microsoft account (just saying) and I run Spybot Anti-Beacon to block even more of MShit's things.

Link: https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

 

[Caring1]

@HTC afraid Microsoft want to know all about u? Well if they wanted they could release all the same functions in a "mandatory" update for Windows 7 so u will feel the same about Windows 7 on that point of view as many do with Windows 10.

Microsoft released telemetry updates for W7 not long after the GWX updates were released.

 

[HTC]

@HTC afraid Microsoft want to know all about u? Well if they wanted they could release all the same functions in a "mandatory" update for Windows 7 so u will feel the same about Windows 7 on that point of view as many do with Windows 10.

With my Windows 10 Pro I only use the Creator Update, normal updates r disabled, I am using a local account there is no way in hell I will create a microsoft account (just saying) and I run Spybot Anti-Beacon to block even more of MShit's things.

Link: https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

That's the 1st program i installed after finishing OS installation: even before putting the board's CD in the drive.

Will have to figure out how to slipstream in xhci drivers for modern platforms and try re-installing Win 7 again.

 

[Shou Miko]

That's the 1st program i installed after finishing OS installation: even before putting the board's CD in the drive.

Will have to figure out how to slipstream in xhci drivers for modern platforms and try re-installing Win 7 again.

That u can do with NTLite, I been slipstreaming som Windows XP's at work specifically to be used on some pc's in the industrial.

Link: https://www.ntlite.com/
U can add a lot more than just drivers if u want.

 

[cadaveca]

Will have to figure out how to slipstream in xhci drivers for modern platforms and try re-installing Win 7 again.

Some boards come with a tool to do so (Such as MSI Smart Tool), but you do need to have an active OS to do the slipstream work...

 

[Johan45]

That's the 1st program i installed after finishing OS installation: even before putting the board's CD in the drive.

Will have to figure out how to slipstream in xhci drivers for modern platforms and try re-installing Win 7 again.

I don't know which board you're usinf but if it has a PS2 you should be golden. I started the install and used the mouse to copy paste the computer name. The once in windows popped the mobo disc in. Installed all the chip/usb drivers and it was golden on an MSI board
EDIT: I have a win7 slipstream guide here http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/781091-AMD-Ryzen-Win7-ISO-Guide

 

[TommyT]

then i pluged my system, i used ps2 mouse only to press instell on all my b350 ryzen drivers

 

[kruk]

I put my eye on the Ryzen 5 1400, B350 boards and 2x4 GB RAM. In a moment of madness, I have even started thinking about buying a 1600 with FlareX 3200 DDR4 RAM. After doing some calculations and reading a lot of reviews, I realized that all this power would mostly be wasted for my use case, so I decided to do some changes.

I have picked the Ryzen 5 1500X, because it was a no brainer vs the 1400: better fan, better clocks, more cache, minor price bump. I have picked the Gigabyte B350M gaming 3 board, mostly because it had dual BIOS. I went for 2x8GB of cheapest 2667 MHz RAM, but made a rookie mistake by not checking the MoBo QVL and not checking if it's single rank (yikes!). In summary, I have sacrificed a few percents of performance, but this build was a lot cheaper.

The hardware installation process went smooth (after the RAM reset to 2133 MHz) and I decided to just plug in my HDD and test it. As expected, Debian Stretch with 4.9.30 kernel ran flawlessly. Windows 7 booted and would probably work after cleanup (I had USB3 drivers installed from previous build), but I decided to reinstall it to have a clean system.

I have used a 1$ USB to PS2 converter and DVD drive to install Windows 7, but after the first installation reboot something broke and it refused to start. I have quickly found the source of the problem: the board came with an ancient F3 BIOS from march. After the BIOS update, I reinstalled Win7. This time everything worked. I have turned on mouse emulation and put in the DVD with Motherboard drivers to finally get the USB ports working. The DVD was a mess: the installer UI refused to work with keyboard navigation and the links to installers were broken. I browsed the DVD to manually install the provided USB drivers one by one, but nothing happened. I have thus decided to download the software from Gigabyte's website and this time everything worked.

After the installation of drivers, I have activated Windows and to my surprise it worked automatically (remember, I have swapped the whole system). I turned on automatic updates and it downloaded and installed over a GB of them. After reboot it started nagging with the "unsupported hardware" screen, therefore I just turned them off.

Now was the time to do some tweaks. RAM XMP profile was not working, so I decided to manually set the speed to 2400 MHz - the currently fastest officially supported speed for dual rank RAM. It didn't work, so I decided to manually enter the numbers (including the 2T command rate). It was a success! I didn't go for 2667 MHz yet, because I really don't need it. The auto overclock pushes the clocks to 3.9 GHz on low loads and with IPC improvements that's already much faster than my i3 was. The idle total system power consumption is around 40 watts which remains unchanged from my previous build. In the torture tests the new build consumes more, but the difference is only 25 Watts. Debian power consumption is slightly higher (5 watts more), but I didn't install the newest kernel yet.

 

[Shou Miko]

@kruk are u using the newest bios for ur Gigabyte board?

If not do a backup of ur current bios and flash F7 they have done some work up to F7 from their first release F1 and also properly more than what they write bcs that's not uncommon.

 

[-1nf1n1ty-]

Hello everyone, my CPU seems to be running quite hot and I am not sure what to do or what it could be caused from. Ryzen master jumps from 40 or so to about 50 (idle) on a Cryorig H7 using the paste it came with. Could it be my case, S340? or is something else playing a factor? Could it be my R9 390, since it gets hot? Incase anyone is wondering I have 3 noctua fans one for exhaust one top and 2 pulling air in from the front (they are redux noctua) and I have 2 Corsair SP quiet edition fans on the CPU cooler and a Cryorig fan on the back for exhaust. Room is fairly cool, carpeted and even got a new fan! but still when I run Ryzen Master temps go up, when I run HWinfo64 temps are good went as low as 36c one time. No i did NOT OC.

EDIT: Did some extra testing to find out what it could be, I even got the bios working and everything with the new release from gigabyte. And closed a bunch of programs at launch. max on a cpuz stress test I am hitting 67.4 and nothing higher with a web browser opened more specifically vivaldi. I have also loaded up csgo in the fps benchmark app, and temps never exceeded 67.5, I went as low as 35.3c at idle. Does Ryzen not like it when you open up windows with other programs? I didn't know that was a thing. Did I just fix my own problem?

EDIT2: Started to render something using mental Ray i reached 75.0c it doesnt get any higher (this is with vivaldi opened)

 

[L|NK|N]

Anyone have suggestions for an air cooler with out of the box AM4/RYZEN compatibility?

 

[bencrutz]

Hello everyone, my CPU seems to be running quite hot and I am not sure what to do or what it could be caused from. Ryzen master jumps from 40 or so to about 50 (idle) on a Cryorig H7 using the paste it came with. Could it be my case, S340? or is something else playing a factor? Could it be my R9 390, since it gets hot? Incase anyone is wondering I have 3 noctua fans one for exhaust one top and 2 pulling air in from the front (they are redux noctua) and I have 2 Corsair SP quiet edition fans on the CPU cooler and a Cryorig fan on the back for exhaust. Room is fairly cool, carpeted and even got a new fan! but still when I run Ryzen Master temps go up, when I run HWinfo64 temps are good went as low as 36c one time. No i did NOT OC.

EDIT: Did some extra testing to find out what it could be, I even got the bios working and everything with the new release from gigabyte. And closed a bunch of programs at launch. max on a cpuz stress test I am hitting 67.4 and nothing higher with a web browser opened more specifically vivaldi. I have also loaded up csgo in the fps benchmark app, and temps never exceeded 67.5, I went as low as 35.3c at idle. Does Ryzen not like it when you open up windows with other programs? I didn't know that was a thing. Did I just fix my own problem?

EDIT2: Started to render something using mental Ray i reached 75.0c it doesnt get any higher (this is with vivaldi opened)

yeah, ryzen master put a little load on cpu and somehow raises the temps quickly even when idle, hwinfo reports pretty much the same, albeit a bit different in the resolution i.e. slower to update the temp compared to ryzen master. this weird thing happens only when i open up ryzen master though, temps get back to normal as soon as i close it.
i'm on ryzen master ver. 1.0.1.0293 & hwinfo ver. 5.52-3161

 

[kruk]

@kruk are u using the newest bios for ur Gigabyte board?

If not do a backup of ur current bios and flash F7 they have done some work up to F7 from their first release F1 and also properly more than what they write bcs that's not uncommon.

I'm using the latest BIOS, F5 for the mATX version. I will go hunting 2667 MHz as soon as I get some time to bench the changes. I'm aware that some timing adjustments might be needed to reach that speed and I don't want to do them without measuring their impact. I'm thinking about quick tests containing: 3D Mark 2006 or Vantage, Metro 2033, 7-zip, Handbrake and Cinebench.

 

[cadaveca]

Anyone have suggestions for an air cooler with out of the box AM4/RYZEN compatibility?

Unfortunately, no. Artic has a couple, but I bought ta cooler that said AM4 compatible the other day, and the mounting hardware for AM4 was not in the box, and I had to mail-order it, and pay for the postage.

 

[the54thvoid]

My system has started having occasional start up quirks. Since i switched to DOCP Standard settings for my latency optimised 3200Mhz setting, my mobo occasional misfires. 3 equal beeps then restarts. Found out that on the Asus CH6 this is the memory system being 'relearned'. Very strange indeed. On the old 1002 bios but apart from that quirk (because it always boots afterwards) I'm quite happy and not sure i should update the BIOS further. Don't want my 3.85Ghz OC being messed with.

 

[Johan45]

Hello everyone, my CPU seems to be running quite hot and I am not sure what to do or what it could be caused from. Ryzen master jumps from 40 or so to about 50 (idle) on a Cryorig H7 using the paste it came with. Could it be my case, S340? or is something else playing a factor? Could it be my R9 390, since it gets hot? Incase anyone is wondering I have 3 noctua fans one for exhaust one top and 2 pulling air in from the front (they are redux noctua) and I have 2 Corsair SP quiet edition fans on the CPU cooler and a Cryorig fan on the back for exhaust. Room is fairly cool, carpeted and even got a new fan! but still when I run Ryzen Master temps go up, when I run HWinfo64 temps are good went as low as 36c one time. No i did NOT OC.

EDIT: Did some extra testing to find out what it could be, I even got the bios working and everything with the new release from gigabyte. And closed a bunch of programs at launch. max on a cpuz stress test I am hitting 67.4 and nothing higher with a web browser opened more specifically vivaldi. I have also loaded up csgo in the fps benchmark app, and temps never exceeded 67.5, I went as low as 35.3c at idle. Does Ryzen not like it when you open up windows with other programs? I didn't know that was a thing. Did I just fix my own problem?

EDIT2: Started to render something using mental Ray i reached 75.0c it doesnt get any higher (this is with vivaldi opened)

Yes the Ryzen "X" chips seem hot. They have a 20° offset appled so the "actual" temp is lower. You're good up to 95°C so you still have lots of room yet.

My system has started having occasional start up quirks. Since i switched to DOCP Standard settings for my latency optimised 3200Mhz setting, my mobo occasional misfires. 3 equal beeps then restarts. Found out that on the Asus CH6 this is the memory system being 'relearned'. Very strange indeed. On the old 1002 bios but apart from that quirk (because it always boots afterwards) I'm quite happy and not sure i should update the BIOS further. Don't want my 3.85Ghz OC being messed with.

Been on 1401 for a while and it works fine for me. There's a 1403 at present which is about the same with a few bug fixes. I haven't tried it as I just noticed it today. These new BIOS open up a lot of options for ram and so far stable. You have nothing to fear

 

[-1nf1n1ty-]

Little update: I switched cases from my NZXT S340 to my old HAF932. Biggest difference, I saw my temps drop to the lowest of 31.8c thank you to those that helped. I dont know what I switched to the s340 in the first place

 

[_JP_]

Noctua NH AM4 ordered

 

[Norton]

Anyone have suggestions for an air cooler with out of the box AM4/RYZEN compatibility?

Noctua has a few that are ready to go with AM4 and they will send you a kit free of charge for older coolers (invoice or picture proof required). I was able to get kits for a U14S and a D14- took just over a week to get them.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

My system has started having occasional start up quirks. Since i switched to DOCP Standard settings for my latency optimised 3200Mhz setting, my mobo occasional misfires. 3 equal beeps then restarts. Found out that on the Asus CH6 this is the memory system being 'relearned'. Very strange indeed. On the old 1002 bios but apart from that quirk (because it always boots afterwards) I'm quite happy and not sure i should update the BIOS further. Don't want my 3.85Ghz OC being messed with.

I have a similar quirk, I have 2 mixed sticks (dual rank!) both rated at 2800 with different timings (1x8GB Corsair Dominator and 1x8GB Kingston Hyper-X) I thought I would be lucky to hit 2400 let alone their rated speed of 2800 but after the agesa 1.0.0.6 BIOS update I can run both at 2800 with a bit of tweaking although the timings were pretty crap at something like 18.18.18 CAS1, managed to get them down manually to 16.16.18 but I also have a similar "cold start" bug that requires me to reset and it boots just fine, no BSOD's or crashes in Windows, just now and then it won't start from cold... I think it's also the memory learning feature but I might tinker some more and see if I can get the timings a bit tighter without having this cold startup bug that is fine with a restart, am I happy still..... mismated RAM sticks, dual rank, running at 2800.... hell yea

 

[Durvelle27]

I'm getting there guys

 

[Durvelle27]

RAM came in

I'm hoping this series plays nice with Ryzen

 

[_JP_]

Just a few parts missing...

 

[xorbe]

No issues with Asus Prime B350M + 1.0.0.6 but I'm just running stock DDR4-2400. It's been problem free so far.