Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Super Firm Tofu · Jun 7, 2024

R-T-B said:
Aorus X670 elite AX blackscreens if you try to disable the iGPU on latest stable bios, F30. Really Gigabyte?

True at least with 7000 series cpus, anyways.

Lol. In the last beta, it wouldn't disable it at all. On or off, still showed up in the OS. That board, while stable as a table while running, has been the flakiest board I've ever had. It's currently been up for 17 days running at 100% CPU without a hiccup.

JWNoctis · Jun 7, 2024

Super Firm Tofu said:
Lol. In the last beta, it wouldn't disable it at all. On or off, still showed up in the OS. That board, while stable as a table while running, has been the flakiest board I've ever had. It's currently been up for 17 days running at 100% CPU without a hiccup.

So good board, great documentation (MSI by comparison offers nothing except pinout and which goes where for their consumer boards), but messed up BIOS? Pushing broken updates to production has to be rather high up on the list of software development sins.

Luckily it should also be much less complicated to fix, but I wonder what's going on over there.

R-T-B · Jun 7, 2024

Super Firm Tofu said:
Lol. In the last beta, it wouldn't disable it at all. On or off, still showed up in the OS. That board, while stable as a table while running, has been the flakiest board I've ever had. It's currently been up for 17 days running at 100% CPU without a hiccup.

Nah I could disable it in last beta through the various CBS submenus (the main one was indeed borked). Now I can't at all. Super cool.

Super Firm Tofu · Jun 7, 2024

R-T-B said:
Nah I could disable it in last beta through the various CBS submenus (the main one was indeed borked). Now I can't at all. Super cool.

Yeah, it's frustrating to say the least.

Ruru · Jun 7, 2024

Nordic said:
What kind of loop are you running? Are you seeing thermal throttling or are you simply concerned about a big number?

DDC @ 12v -> CPU -> 240x45 rad -> GPU -> pumpres

No throttling, just concerned.

AusWolf · Jun 7, 2024

Keullo-e said:
I still guess it's reasonable with ambient ~29c

In Finland? That's mad! :eek:

Ruru · Jun 7, 2024

AusWolf said:
In Finland? That's mad!

Been pretty hot weather lately, and sun is shining straight to my apartment most of the time... hate that. Though now it's a little cooler so maybe the ambient cools down as well.

Yeah, I don't have any kind of AC :laugh:

JWNoctis · Jun 7, 2024

Keullo-e said:
DDC @ 12v -> CPU -> 240x45 rad -> GPU -> pumpres

No throttling, just concerned.

Any chance of re-routing the radiator after the GPU, or adding another radiator? Right now the CPU is essentially running downstream of it.

Though this came from someone whose only custom loop experience was a chilled mini aquarium(tank->canisters->pump->chiller->tank) with only 10W of lighting and 6W of pump to worry about, so take it with a grain of salt.

P. S. All that ended up doing was dissuading me from ever attempting custom loop in a PC.

AusWolf · Jun 7, 2024

Keullo-e said:
Been pretty hot weather lately, and sun is shining straight to my apartment most of the time... hate that. Though now it's a little cooler so maybe the ambient cools down as well.

Yeah, I don't have any kind of AC

And here we are, calling 15 degrees "summer" in unusually sunshiny England. :laugh:

Ruru · Jun 7, 2024

JWNoctis said:
Any chance of re-routing the radiator after the GPU, or adding another radiator? Right now the CPU is essentially running downstream of it.

Though this came from someone whose only custom loop experience was a chilled mini aquarium(tank->canisters->pump->chiller->tank) with only 10W of lighting and 6W of pump to worry about, so take it with a grain of salt.

P. S. All that ended up doing was dissuading me from ever attempting custom loop in a PC.

I could probably do that, or put the flow to something like this? Pumpres -> rad -> CPU -> GPU -> pumpres? There's practically no room for another rad unless I'd get a 120 one to the back

JWNoctis · Jun 7, 2024

Keullo-e said:
I could probably do that, or put the flow to something like this? Pumpres -> rad -> CPU -> GPU -> pumpres? There's practically no room for another rad unless I'd get a 120 one to the back

That sound like it might end up increasing GPU temperature beyond tolerance instead...I'd guess even a 120 between them would help, but given how every maintenance on my aquarium setup had been a mop and bucket job - and, oh, how it dripped, occasionally - I myself would be afraid to touch anything in a PC custom loop once set up and filled. :oops:

Ruru · Jun 7, 2024

JWNoctis said:
That sound like it might end up increasing GPU temperature beyond tolerance instead...I'd guess even a 120 between them would help, but given how every maintenance on my aquarium setup had been a mop and bucket job - and, oh, how it dripped, occasionally - I myself would be afraid to touch anything in a PC custom loop once set up and filled.

I doubt that, the block does amazing job and currently my hotspot/GDDR6X temps are at around mid-70s at maximum even with manual OC. :toast:

lexluthermiester · Jun 7, 2024

Keullo-e said:
About ~mid 80s

Under full load?

Keullo-e said:
Oh hell no, PPT is set to 110W

Um. Something is hinky here. You shouldn't be anywhere near the 80s with a custom loop, even under full load.

Keullo-e said:
I still guess it's reasonable with ambient ~29c

Not it's not. You should be right around 70C with a custom loop. That assumes of course that you're using at least a 240mm, good fans, a reasonable pump and a reasonable fluid.

Space Lynx · Jun 7, 2024

I have had my 7800x3d for about a month now I think, I have to say I really love it. Surprised how cold it runs in gaming. same with my 7900 xt, not even breaking 60 celsius on the hotspot in diablo iv.

considering how much backlog i have and i only play at 1440p, my upgrade path will be 11800x3d and probably rtx 6090 or maybe the top tier amd gpu... we will see. thats at least 3 years away i reckon, so no point mulling just now. x3d for life though i know that much, everything has just been so smooth

Nordic · Jun 7, 2024

Keullo-e said:
DDC @ 12v -> CPU -> 240x45 rad -> GPU -> pumpres

No throttling, just concerned.

A 240 rad for both CPU and GPU is asking a lot of it. High temperatures aren't really a problem anymore. Don't worry about 80c or even 90c heat. Modern chips have a temperature target and push their clockspeed as high as that temperature. 90c is well within safety limits.

Ruru · Jun 7, 2024

Nordic said:
A 240 rad for both CPU and GPU is asking a lot of it. High temperatures aren't really a problem anymore. Don't worry about 80c or even 90c heat. Modern chips have a temperature target and push their clockspeed as high as that temperature. 90c is well within safety limits.

There's just simply no room for anything else than maybe a 120 rad. I may get one when I get some spare cash.

Chicken Patty · Jun 23, 2024

Chicken Patty said:
Much better. I changed:

SOC: DEFAULT 1.243 to now 1.050v
VDDG: DEFAULT 1.100 TO now 0.850v
VDDP: DEFAULT was auto, don't recall how much but now set to 0.800v

Now getting idle temp in the high 30's low 40's while typing this and streaming hockey, still ambient temp of 25-26ºc depends if A/C is on or off at the time of the temp check.

Looks like we may have sorted out my issue for good. I'll trial it some more and report back, but much better now.

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So just wanted to chime in here after about what, 2 months? These settings have been stable. I have done lots of gaming, daily use and it has not had a hiccup and idle temps are drastically better as I previously stated even in a very hot 26-27ºc room. So just wanted to update you guys

Ruru · Jul 29, 2024

Promised to donate my B550 board to my friend so I'll need a new one. I know that getting a new AM4 board is kinda stupid but well....

Is Asrock X570S PG Riptide a good pick?

68Olds · Jul 29, 2024

Ruru said:
Promised to donate my B550 board to my friend so I'll need a new one. I know that getting a new AM4 board is kinda stupid but well....

Is Asrock X570S PG Riptide a good pick?

Seems like a solid board. Only down-side I saw in one review was the lack of WiFi & BT, but that's only a negative if you need WiFi &/or BT.

Klemc · Jul 29, 2024

Reviewed on TPU:

ASRock X570S PG Riptide Review

The new ASRock X570S PG Riptide takes the X570 chipset to a whole new level. Gone is the controversial fan that creates unnecessary noise. The Riptide is an affordable motherboard with 2.5 Gb/s LAN from Killer Networking, RGB support, and all the necessities to get started!

www.techpowerup.com

Fanless X570 chipset
Dedicated WiFi slot
Unique GPU support bracket
RGB support/headers
2x Gen4 M.2 slots
Great entry-level audio
//

Technically a 4 + 2-phase VRM
Poor VRM thermals
Mediocre overclocking
Additional PCIe x16 slots are wired for PCIe x4
Two SATA ports are disabled with a second M.2 SSD installed
2.5 GbE Ethernet requires special drivers

dgianstefani · Jul 29, 2024

Ruru said:
Promised to donate my B550 board to my friend so I'll need a new one. I know that getting a new AM4 board is kinda stupid but well....

Is Asrock X570S PG Riptide a good pick?

Just sell the CPU and RAM and go AM5 or Arrow Lake.

Second gen AM5 boards aren't far away, and Arrow Lake is quite impressive technologically.

Ruru · Jul 29, 2024

dgianstefani said:
Just sell the CPU and RAM and go AM5 or Arrow Lake.

Second gen AM5 boards aren't far away, and Arrow Lake is quite impressive technologically.

Too pricey for a poor guy like me. Intel isn't an option, I'll go with AMD now and in the future.

Klemc said:
Reviewed on TPU:

ASRock X570S PG Riptide Review

The new ASRock X570S PG Riptide takes the X570 chipset to a whole new level. Gone is the controversial fan that creates unnecessary noise. The Riptide is an affordable motherboard with 2.5 Gb/s LAN from Killer Networking, RGB support, and all the necessities to get started!

www.techpowerup.com

Fanless X570 chipset

Dedicated WiFi slot

Unique GPU support bracket

RGB support/headers

2x Gen4 M.2 slots

Great entry-level audio

//

Technically a 4 + 2-phase VRM

Poor VRM thermals

Mediocre overclocking

Additional PCIe x16 slots are wired for PCIe x4

Two SATA ports are disabled with a second M.2 SSD installed

2.5 GbE Ethernet requires special drivers

The features looks fine for me... I don't do manual OC on Ryzen, just have PBO do its magic

A Computer Guy · Jul 29, 2024

Ruru said:
Promised to donate my B550 board to my friend so I'll need a new one. I know that getting a new AM4 board is kinda stupid but well....

Is Asrock X570S PG Riptide a good pick?

Asrock x570 Taichi has been quite solid for me if you can get one (currently some on ebay for around $140, newegg for $212) but considering it's a board swap bumping up to AM5 would probably be better.
The Asrock x570 Taichi razor is a bit better in terms of M.2 access and chipset fan placement but also a solid board but also more rare now. I managed to snag an open box one from ebay.

If the Taichi B550 is anything like it's x570 counterpart in terms of quality that should be a good pick as well.
B550 Taichi Razor is $169 on new egg. $189 for regular B550 Taichi on newegg.

harm9963 · Jul 29, 2024

Ruru said:
Too pricey for a poor guy like me. Intel isn't an option, I'll go with AMD now and in the future.

The features looks fine for me... I don't do manual OC on Ryzen, just have PBO do its magic

Same here, My Dark Hero adds DOCS on top of PBO.

Ruru · Jul 29, 2024

harm9963 said:
Same here, My Dark Hero adds DOCS on top of PBO.

PBO+200 and goes up to 5.05GHz, with -20CO and -50mV undervolt.

A Computer Guy said:
Asrock x570 Taichi has been quite solid for me if you can get one (currently some on ebay for around $140, newegg for $212) but considering it's a board swap bumping up to AM5 would probably be better.

I could ask my friend if he has one (or if he can get one for me) cheaply. Taichis are great boards, no matter the platform.

System Name	Windows
Processor	7950X3D
Motherboard	MSI X670E Tomahawk
Cooling	Arctic LF III 420
Memory	64GB 6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090
Display(s)	MSI MAG401QR
Case	Asus ProArt PA602
Audio Device(s)	Two Turntables and a Microphone
Power Supply	Vertex GX-1000
Software	Win 11

System Name	Kuro
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D@65W
Motherboard	MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO
Memory	Corsair DDR5 6000C30 2x48GB (Hynix M)@6000 30-36-36-48 1.36V
Video Card(s)	PNY XLR8 RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16G@200W
Storage	Crucial T500 2TB + WD Blue 8TB
Case	Lian Li LANCOOL 216
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster AE-7
Power Supply	MSI MPG A850G
Software	Ubuntu 24.04 LTS + Windows 10 Home Build 19045
Benchmark Scores	17761 C23 Multi@65W

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

System Name	Windows
Processor	7950X3D
Motherboard	MSI X670E Tomahawk
Cooling	Arctic LF III 420
Memory	64GB 6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090
Display(s)	MSI MAG401QR
Case	Asus ProArt PA602
Audio Device(s)	Two Turntables and a Microphone
Power Supply	Vertex GX-1000
Software	Win 11

System Name	4K-gaming
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 50, GPU with custom loop
Memory	32GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-3466
Video Card(s)	Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF OC 10GB
Storage	256+240+128+480+2x1TB SSDs + 3TB HDDs
Display(s)	Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS
Case	Corsair 4000D Airflow White
Audio Device(s)	Corsair HS35
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse	Logitech MX518 + Asus TUF P1 mousepad
Keyboard	Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO
VR HMD	Oculus Rift CV1
Software	Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	It runs Crysis

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Super Firm Tofu

JWNoctis

R-T-B

Super Firm Tofu

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

AusWolf

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

JWNoctis

AusWolf

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

JWNoctis

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

lexluthermiester

Space Lynx

Astronaut

Nordic

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

Chicken Patty

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

68Olds

Klemc

ASRock X570S PG Riptide Review

dgianstefani

TPU Proofreader

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

ASRock X570S PG Riptide Review

A Computer Guy

harm9963

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

System Name	Nebulon B
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi
Cooling	be quiet! Dark Rock 4
Memory	2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB
Storage	2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5"
Display(s)	Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen
Case	Kolink Citadel Mesh black
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard	Logitech G413 SE
Software	Windows 10 Pro

Processor	7800x3d
Motherboard	Gigabyte B650 Auros Elite AX
Cooling	Custom Water
Memory	GSKILL 2x16gb 6000mhz Cas 30 with custom timings
Video Card(s)	MSI RX 6750 XT MECH 2X 12G OC
Storage	Adata SX8200 1tb with Windows, Samsung 990 Pro 2tb with games
Display(s)	HP Omen 27q QHD 165hz
Case	ThermalTake P3
Power Supply	SuperFlower Leadex Titanium
Software	Windows 11 64 Bit
Benchmark Scores	CB23: 1811 / 19424 CB24: 1136 / 7687

System Name	Gamer
Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI
Cooling	Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16
Video Card(s)	Red Dragon RX 6800 XT
Storage	WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB
Display(s)	LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz
Case	Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX
Audio Device(s)	Harman Kardon HK695 2.1
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus GM-750
Mouse	HP Gaming wired
Keyboard	Logitech G110 wired
VR HMD	HP WMR 1440^2
Software	Win10 Pro 64bit

System Name	Silent
Processor	Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans removed
Cooling	Optimus Block, HWLABS Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 2x A4x10, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory	32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage	Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s)	32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case	Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front panel pump/res combo
Audio Device(s)	Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply	SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse	Razer Viper Pro V2 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape
Keyboard	Wooting 60HE+, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W, Jellykey, Lube/Mod, TLabs Leath/Suede Wristrest
Software	Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 19044.4046
Benchmark Scores	Legendary

System Name	Not a thread ripper but pretty good.
Processor	Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50)
Cooling	EK-Quantum Velocity2, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360
Memory	Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) + JONSBO NF-1
Video Card(s)	XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate
Storage	Samsung 2TB & 4TB 980 PRO, 2TB 970 EVO Plus, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk
Display(s)	2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount)
Case	Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model)
Audio Device(s)	Controller for fans, RGB, & temp sensors(4): Corsair Commander Pro
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x
Mouse	Logitech M575
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
Software	Windows 10 Professional (64bit)
Benchmark Scores	Typical for non-overclocked CPU.

System Name	Harm's Rig's
Processor	5950X /2700x / AMD 8370e 4500
Motherboard	ASUS DARK HERO / ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 Push/Pull -6 Noctua NF-A14 i and 6 Noctua NF-A14 i Meshify 2 XL
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB (4x 8GB) 4000M TRIDENT Z F-43600V15D-16GTZ /G.SKILL DDR4
Video Card(s)	ZOTAC AMP EXTREME AIRO 4090 / 1080 Ti /290X CFX
Storage	SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB/ WD DARK 770 2TB , Sabrent NVMe 512GB / 1 SSD 250GB / 1 HHD 3 TB
Display(s)	Thermal Grizzly WireView / TCL 646 55 TV / 50 Xfinity Hisense A6 XUMO TV
Case	Meshify 2 XL- TT 37 VIEW 200MM'S-ARTIC P14MAX
Audio Device(s)	Sharp Aquos
Power Supply	FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum - EVGA 1300G2/Corsair w750
Mouse	G502
Keyboard	G413