Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

YautjaLord · Sep 30, 2018

These are the voltages for 3.8GHz & from what i gathered throughout the interwebz only thing to change in entire AMD CBS Custom Pstates/Throttling is the P0, set it to manual. Any thoughts, lend a hand anyone?

I tell y'all you never know with all of these what will f*ck things up & what not. Things were way simpler back in a FX-8350 days. :laugh:

jk

robot zombie · Sep 30, 2018

AlwaysHope said:
That's the way AMD designed Zen architecture, you know with the CCX bus topology & all... not much, us consumers can do about it.

Bahh... I know. Im okay with that whole deal. I just wish compatibility was better and performance was a little more transparent. It would make all the difference for a lot of people. I know its always a game of catch-up with RAM but it still feel like things could be a little more unified. The intel side of things is just a lot better hashed out. Not really AMDs fault though.

b die Samsung that is single rank lot easier to OC, not double rank like with the sticks I have. To get stability with OC on double ranked sticks, enable gear down mode. It gets fiddly I know... lol... + being an early adopter of B450 platform is the price I pay for handicapped OC until bios maturity.

Haha people like you are the real heroes, delving headlong into lands unknown so others dont have to

And yeah Ive heard of peoples woes with dual rank. Though it looks like we'll soon have some of those with better compatibility and better speed for those who need higher capacity.

Geardown helps with any RAM ime. If youre running speeds much higher than 3200 its almost a requirement. For even CAS anyway. 2T may help with odd timings... or so Ive read. Not had success myself but perhaps not related.

B-die is nice but it cant save you from a gimped bios.

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2018

Mussels said:
Current goal is tweaking the ram... I've got 3200 C16, so i'm going to see if lower timings is possible, or higher MHz - currently 3400C16 working fine at XMP voltages/timings

theoneandonlymrk said:
So ,It lives, not messed much but its doing 4.1 on all cores ,but that's first hour im going to take some time with it.
I got the wrong memory apparently ,damn ordering at 2am ,i got Corsair vengeance 3000 as a compromise on cost but it isn't happy at 3000 , best so far is 2933 and it's memory fail is a pain in the ass boot loop.
Still first hour im happy enough, but damn ,i am of the mind fx8350 were no where near as shit as some say too , i didn't gain many frames in the upgrade but time will tell.

It really is worth getting the better RAM and higher speed will do better than tighter timings since the RAM bus is tied to the Infinity Fabric. Speeding up the RAM will give a slight boost to the whole CPU since it speeds up communications between CCX. A few pages back I had some screenies of 4000 MHz RAM ( not even close to stable) and I have this from today at 3600MHz really close to stable but I don't use it daily either this was just for benchmarking. But the increase from 3200 to 3600 was definitely noticeable in overall results

Mussels · Sep 30, 2018

jesus, 4.6Ghz

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2018

Mussels said:
jesus, 4.6Ghz

Running a chilled loop for benching, starts around -20C

cdawall · Sep 30, 2018

Johan45 said:
Running a chilled loop for benching, starts around -20C

Wanna see my asrock board catch on fire? Bet I can do it with the chilled loop

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2018

cdawall said:
Wanna see my asrock board catch on fire? Bet I can do it with the chilled loop

I always did like fireworks! :peace:

cdawall · Sep 30, 2018

Johan45 said:
I always did like fireworks!

I think I have already come up on nearly double what it was designed to sustain, what is a little more.

GoldenX · Sep 30, 2018

Beware the blast radius.

Johan45 · Sep 30, 2018

cdawall said:
I think I have already come up on nearly double what it was designed to sustain, what is a little more.

Asrock has always made me nervous with high current draw

cdawall · Sep 30, 2018

Johan45 said:
Asrock has always made me nervous with high current draw

This board has the same VRM setup as the Asus X399 zenith extreme, but the cooler on the Asus is in theory better.

Johan45 · Oct 1, 2018

Depends on what they did before the chokes.

cdawall · Oct 1, 2018

Johan45 said:
Depends on what they did before the chokes.

I haven't toasted this one yet and have it set to 4.2ghz all 32 cores. So it cannot be that awful

Johan45 · Oct 1, 2018

They must have done something right, like no shortcuts this time.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Oct 1, 2018

Vya Domus said:
Which kit exactly ? I got something along those lines but mine doesn't want to do shit. Could you post a picture with the timings you use ?

I was going to post them but , after a gaming session i am getting C2D or full Bsd fails, so im not convinced it's stable but ill post pics later.
Fails after 20+ mins so i think heats involved somewhere. Hopefully i can get it sussed.

Johan45 · Oct 1, 2018

Try running the RAM at base speed, if that works it could need a slight voltage bump for the DRAM or that RAM just isn't going to play nice

YautjaLord · Oct 1, 2018

The temps on CPU @ idle, at least when i turn on the rig:

Not too big of a difference between the monoblock's EK-TIM Ectotherm & Thermal Grizzly TIM according to reviews throughout the web. Maybe i'll switch to later when 2700X will be in my grasp, regardless.

GoldenX · Oct 1, 2018

My 1200 says 4° at boot on BIOS, normal on Windows, weird.

YautjaLord · Oct 1, 2018

It's 65W TDP, 4 cores/8 threads CPU, that i can tell for a fact, have you updated BIOS/UEFI? Not familiar with MSI mobos or anything from that company basically, ASUS, AsRock & Gigabyte - only motherboard companies i'm familiar with.

SIGSEGV · Oct 1, 2018

Johan45 said:
It really is worth getting the better RAM and higher speed will do better than tighter timings since the RAM bus is tied to the Infinity Fabric. Speeding up the RAM will give a slight boost to the whole CPU since it speeds up communications between CCX. A few pages back I had some screenies of 4000 MHz RAM ( not even close to stable) and I have this from today at 3600MHz really close to stable but I don't use it daily either this was just for benchmarking. But the increase from 3200 to 3600 was definitely noticeable in overall results

OMG, that's 1.54v core voltage @4.6Ghz really amaze me.

HTC · Oct 1, 2018

Johan45 said:
It really is worth getting the better RAM and higher speed will do better than tighter timings since the RAM bus is tied to the Infinity Fabric. Speeding up the RAM will give a slight boost to the whole CPU since it speeds up communications between CCX. A few pages back I had some screenies of 4000 MHz RAM ( not even close to stable) and I have this from today at 3600MHz really close to stable but I don't use it daily either this was just for benchmarking. But the increase from 3200 to 3600 was definitely noticeable in overall results

If AMD ever manage to have RAM speeds higher (think over 4000MHz) to work with RyZen arch in an plug & play like fashion (XMP timing selection???), this platform will have a serious boost to overall performance.

It improved since AGESA 1.0.0.6 and it's noticeably better but still far from goal: imagine running a Ryzen 2700X with DDR4 4800 or there about ...

GoldenX · Oct 1, 2018

We would need lower RAM prices first.

HTC · Oct 2, 2018

GoldenX said:
We would need lower RAM prices first.

Indeed ...

YautjaLord · Oct 2, 2018

Have to shed some light on what's going on in my venture to the OC/OV land (well more like OV for my 3.8GHz OC, but i digress :laugh:

): prior to me updating the BIOS to version F22 i was @ F4 (awesome version), vCore was @ 1.4v, SoC voltage @ 1.1v, 3.8GHz scored me a nice 1669cb in Cinebench R15; now, with F22 all good & stable, Small FFTs Prime95 test passed 2h+ mark, BUT - i get lower R15 score than the default 3.4GHz clock. All other tests are stable as well as multiple runs of R15, single & multi threaded, but the scores in R15 put me to shame compared to what i had with F4 EFI update. Just saying, cause when you all see the vid with all of these (R15 included) say RIP to my prev scores in it. :roll:

jk Yeah i'm working on the vid as i type this text.

Cheers.

HTC · Oct 2, 2018

YautjaLord said:
Have to shed some light on what's going on in my venture to the OC/OV land (well more like OV for my 3.8GHz OC, but i digress ): prior to me updating the BIOS to version F22 i was @ F4 (awesome version), vCore was @ 1.4v, SoC voltage @ 1.1v, 3.8GHz scored me a nice 1669cb in Cinebench R15; now, with F22 all good & stable, Small FFTs Prime95 test passed 2h+ mark, BUT - i get lower R15 score than the default 3.4GHz clock. All other tests are stable as well as multiple runs of R15, single & multi threaded, but the scores in R15 put me to shame compared to what i had with F4 EFI update. Just saying, cause when you all see the vid with all of these (R15 included) say RIP to my prev scores in it. jk Yeah i'm working on the vid as i type this text. Cheers.

That's a bit strange: unless the RAM somehow downgraded to 2133, i dunno how that can be.

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Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

YautjaLord

robot zombie

Johan45

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

Johan45

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Johan45

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

GoldenX

Johan45

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Johan45

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Johan45

TheoneandonlyMrK

Johan45

YautjaLord

GoldenX

YautjaLord

SIGSEGV

HTC

GoldenX

HTC

YautjaLord

HTC

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