Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

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Damn, I was on the verge of selling this kit an buying another one but finally got it working as it should. Turns out that update did something after all, I think at least. I swear I tried these timings yesterday and it did not boot. I have a feeling my board was doing something funky all the time screwing with my timings and somehow messing about in the BIOS I fixed it.

I would blame the memory training, it probably got stuck on a tertiary setting it couldn't run right and eventually got it right.
Since I have ran the same timings with and without success too.

 

[Super XP]

UserBenchmarks: Game 80%, Desk 118%, Work 118%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 95.2%
GPU: AMD RX 580 - 74.7%
SSD: Corsair Force MP500 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB - 151.6%
SSD: Force MP510 480GB - 235%
HDD: WD Green 1TB (2010) - 58.3%
RAM: Unknown=> Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x16GB - 106.9%
MBD: Asrock X370 Gaming X

That new Corsair M.2 Force MP510 is smoking on the M.2 Ultra slot.

 

[robot zombie]

Since we're doing the userbenchmark thing I guess I'll post mine. Usually I like to run at 4.1ghz just because voltage is way lower (as in <1.25v) and temps are awesome, while performance is still literally like 95% there. 4.2ghz is more like my best daily max. I just like the fact that games max ~50C for me right now Though if I didn't care about temperatures, I could go up to 4.25 comfortably and at least get some real boost for the extra heat... ...but then heavier stress tests are starting to take me over 80C and games are running me as high as 70C. "Safe" sure - and proven stable, but that's a lot of heat to be pumping into a small room with my PC right next to me, specially with my RAM config needing a little extra CPU vcore on top. Ridiculously high wattage and current levels = lots of heat. Not worth it for something I generally won't notice anyway. I've already got a nice room heater - the RX 580, heh.

Gotta say I'm loving the 970 evo as my first nvme SSD. Load times for Fallout 4 are normal now! Seeing the benchmarks is an extra level of satisfaction, too. Not to mention slick boot times and the general smoothness running more data-intensive programs. People say it's not worth it going from SATA SSD to nvme... ...I disagree. Maybe for some people it's not - my 860 evo rules and I've always been quite happy with it, but the 970 has been a pretty obvious step up for the things I use it for. And for what the 970's go for now it's almost a no-brainer if you're already planning to shell-out for a quality SSD.

The 3600/CL17 b-die from g.skill is great ram, btw. Sometimes you'll catch it for 20-30 bucks cheaper than its 3200/CL14 counterpart (RGB stuff, anyway,) but it'll run that same 3200/CL14 with really nice subtimings easily. I think I'm at a DRAM voltage of 1.37 and SOC of something like .98v. And honestly I think the DRAM voltage is only what it is because of something with the training voltage on my mobo. That, or being stuck with an old version of AGESA. I haven't tried messing with it since this board finally got the latest non pinnacle pi.

UserBenchmarks: Game 90%, Desk 139%, Work 118%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 - 101.4%
GPU: AMD RX 580 - 81.3%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 281.2%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 250GB - 127.3%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB - 98.1%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3600 C17 2x8GB - 122.8%
MBD: Asus ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING

According to this, I am a technical master! Hot damn! Honestly guys, if that's what this benchmark determines me to be, I majorly question its reliability as a benchmark. It's almost patronizing, how far off that is from reality I think I put together a great little budget rig for my audio production needs and 1080p/60 gaming and all - it runs like a dream and I'm proud of what I can get from it, but "technical master" sounds really silly to me. All of their little tiers are ridiculous... they're engineered to make you feel good and make the results seem to mean more than they do. "Nuclear Submarine" is not what I think of when I think "Ryzen 2600/RX 580 gaming rig" lol. Their grading system needs a little tweaking, hah.

 

[Super XP]

I believe UserBenchmark compares your setup with others. And gives you information on how your setup should perform in relation to everybody else's. Its the average I think.

It ain't perfect, but does give you a nice performance perspective.

 

[robot zombie]

No, I agree, it's nice as a general comparative approximation. It does a good job of showing where you could maybe improve things, or where something may be going wrong with your setup. I especially like it for testing different configs of the same machine against each other. Or maybe getting a look at where a recent upgrade lands you. I just think there are certain things it doesn't give a realistic picture of. To me, it's more of a 'fun' benchmark. I'm not tweaking my rig to get better ubm scores like I might with CB or something.

 

[Papahyooie]

Subbing to the thread. Finally moved back to the Red team after years on an i5 4690. Just got a 2600 and an Asus Strix B350-F. Hopefully get to finish up the build tonight.

 

[GoldenX]

New BIOS on MSI, adds "cpu compatibility" for APUs. Gave me offset voltages and custom TDP.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

New BIOS on MSI, adds "cpu compatibility" for APUs. Gave me offset voltages and custom TDP.

Probably the same agesa Pi 1.0.0.6 update Asrock has just released also, not to be confused with the 1.0.0.6 summit ridge agesa update back in 2017/18. Well done AMD for making bios revisions simple to understand

Though I have the latest Asrock Ab350m Bios (agesa Pi 1.0.0.6) and am running a pair of 8GB single rank (Hynix IC's) 3000mhz Teamgroup RAM sticks at 3200mhz with improved timings, so won't be one to complain.

 

[Flyordie]

I just wish Gigabyte would fix their X399 BIOS bug.

1.6V being pushed through a 14nm Threadripper isn't exactly a great thing to have happen.

 

[Kursah]

I need to go up to v3 of the modded bios that @1usmus has created here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...yzen-bios-mods-how-update-bios-correctly.html

But v2's been solid and gave me PBO back when the Asus official 4207 removed it.

Anyone else running these modded bioses on theirs?

The process isn't all that bad, Rufus DOS FAT32 UEFI bootable USB, slap the modded bioses and the stock bios of the same version in. Flash the stock BIOS using command line, then flash the modded bios, reset the system and away you go.

Gotta say I am pretty happy with the results so far seeing that I am able to achieve stability and improved performance from PBO.

 

[Super XP]

UserBenchmarks: Game 80%, Desk 112%, Work 115%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 90%
GPU: AMD RX 580 - 76%
SSD: Corsair Force MP500 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB - 141.5%
SSD: Corsair Force 3 180GB - 56.4%
SSD: Force MP510 480GB - 231.6%
HDD: WD Green 1TB (2010) - 54.2%
RAM: G-Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x16GB - 108.1%
MBD: Asrock X370 Gaming X

 

[Super XP]

UserBenchmarks: Game 79%, Desk 114%, Work 114%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 90.4%
GPU: AMD RX 580 - 74.6%
SSD: Corsair Force MP500 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB - 140.2%
SSD: Corsair Force 3 180GB - 55.7%
SSD: Force MP510 480GB - 238.7%
HDD: WD Green 1TB (2010) - 53.9%
USB: Kingston DataTraveler 100 G3 USB 3.0 32GB - 27.8%
RAM: Unknown=> Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x16GB - 106.3%
MBD: Asrock X370 Gaming X

This is kind of weird though, My turbo speed is less versus the base speed. Hmmm

AMD Ryzen 7 1700X-$348
49,078 User benchmarks, average bench 88%
AM4, 1 CPU, 8 cores, 16 threads
Base clock 3.6 GHz, turbo 3.55 GHz (avg)

 

[NdMk2o1o]

UserBenchmarks: Game 79%, Desk 114%, Work 114%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 90.4%
GPU: AMD RX 580 - 74.6%
SSD: Corsair Force MP500 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB - 140.2%
SSD: Corsair Force 3 180GB - 55.7%
SSD: Force MP510 480GB - 238.7%
HDD: WD Green 1TB (2010) - 53.9%
USB: Kingston DataTraveler 100 G3 USB 3.0 32GB - 27.8%
RAM: Unknown=> Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x16GB - 106.3%
MBD: Asrock X370 Gaming X

This is kind of weird though, My turbo speed is less versus the base speed. Hmmm

AMD Ryzen 7 1700X-$348
49,078 User benchmarks, average bench 88%
AM4, 1 CPU, 8 cores, 16 threads
Base clock 3.6 GHz, turbo 3.55 GHz (avg)

Ryzens base clock tends to fluctuate around 99.** instead of a constant 100 CPU-Z should confirm the same.

 

[Papahyooie]

What is this black Ryzen magic?? My 2600 clocks up to 4.5ghz for single core (sometimes more than one), and I've done no tweaking whatsoever. Is the max boost cock that they cite in the specs an all-core boost? I need to research this more, but I am getting more and more happy with this purchase every day!

 

[Super XP]

What is this black Ryzen magic?? My 2600 clocks up to 4.5ghz for single core (sometimes more than one), and I've done no tweaking whatsoever. Is the max boost cock that they cite in the specs an all-core boost? I need to research this more, but I am getting more and more happy with this purchase every day!

I think it's all cores. Because a single core can go much higher than the boost clocks.

 

[robot zombie]

What is this black Ryzen magic?? My 2600 clocks up to 4.5ghz for single core (sometimes more than one), and I've done no tweaking whatsoever. Is the max boost cock that they cite in the specs an all-core boost? I need to research this more, but I am getting more and more happy with this purchase every day!

I'm not even gonna touch that typo... thats quite a phrase man...

But yeah, with good enough cooling SC boosts that high aren't unheard of. Sounds like you got a winner setup. Though in reality it likely wont hold quite that under continuous load.

It just occured to me that Ive never encountered an unhappy 2600 owner. I feel like those are in the perfect sweet spot. They really are pretty capable for the money.

 

[Super XP]

Matured process node. Is probably why the ZEN+ are doing well in clock speed.
Can't wait for 7nm.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It just occured to me that Ive never encountered an unhappy 2600 owner.

Same here. I have yet to hear about an unhappy Ryzen owner. There have been a few that have lamented not getting a faster/better one. Then I help them apply an OC or help them with a upgrade and they're happy again.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Same here. I have yet to hear about an unhappy Ryzen owner. There have been a few that have lamented not getting a faster/better one. Then I help them apply an OC or help them with a upgrade and they're happy again.

I don't know about that bro, i agree they're happy but the odd guy on here , like me cant wait for Ryzen 3XXX,,, i got a 2600 because i could'nt face less of an upgrade but did'nt want to waste to much money on the present generation.
i will stick the 2600x in something though ,for me

 

[Papahyooie]

I'm not even gonna touch that typo... thats quite a phrase man...

But yeah, with good enough cooling SC boosts that high aren't unheard of. Sounds like you got a winner setup. Though in reality it likely wont hold quite that under continuous load.

It just occured to me that Ive never encountered an unhappy 2600 owner. I feel like those are in the perfect sweet spot. They really are pretty capable for the money.

You know what...? I'm not even going to fix it....

I just read up on XFR2. Looks like that's what's going on, especially since my temps don't go above 56C on air! This Ryzen setup is a whole new world for me. My last unlocked chip was the FX8370, and I've had a locked haswell i5 since then. That one wouldn't even do the rated max boost on all cores, so this is a super pleasant surprise.

 

[biffzinker]

@theoneandonlymrk Did you hit a wall of 4.1 GHz with all cores as well?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

@theoneandonlymrk Did you hit a wall of 4.1 GHz with all cores as well?

yes pretty much for 24/7 90% Loaded anyway. oh shit my L went again ,anyway i can run upto 4.235 aLL core to game and bench but im not ok with 1.5V 24/7.

 

[btarunr]

#10YearsChallenge

2009 (Phenom X4 9650):

2019 (Ryzen 7 2700X):

 

[cdawall]

Oh now this I can 100% get behind. Here is the 2009 thread these were out of lol https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/cdawall-vs-assassin48.97389/

#10yearchallenge #keepmultigpualive

550BE (or 955/910/whatever), 4x2GB D9JNM, Sapphire 4850X2

2990WX, 4x8GB hynix AFR, 2xEVGA 1080Ti

 

[GoldenX]

10 years challenge? I still use the same case, keyboard and monitor.