Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Mussels · Dec 22, 2021

HWinfo got an update

Added monitoring of L3 Cache temperatures and clocks for AMD Zen CPUs.

Chomiq · Dec 22, 2021

Just updated from F30 to F35, AGESA 1.2.0.3b - they finally fixed the temperature spikes in idle:

Why not latest with 1.2.0.4A? Supposedly that version of AGESA has some VDDG issues.

Mussels · Dec 22, 2021

Chomiq said:
Just updated from F30 to F35, AGESA 1.2.0.3b - they finally fixed the temperature spikes in idle:
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Why not latest with 1.2.0.4A? Supposedly that version of AGESA has some VDDG issues.

I still get spikes on 1.2.0.3C

Havent had anything newer than that, last update for my board was late sept

phill · Dec 24, 2021

weekendgeek said:
Hey Phill - For reference I just set up a 5950x as a 24/7 WCG box. I started by setting the BIOS to the 95w Eco mode (10w less than stock by lowering PPT, EDC, and TDC). That gave me 16c/32t at around 3.4GHz on all cores @ 52c on a Scythe Mugen 5B. I figured that was too slow and cool so I brought it back to just stock. It's now 3.8 on all cores @59c. Ambient room temp is 20-21c

You'll probably gain some more MHz by attempting to optimize each core with a negative offset, but only you can decide if it's worth the time and effort.

freeagent said:
For WCG? Nah not worth it. All core or bust, unless you run PBO right to the thermal edge, but even still.. not really worth it to me. Results are fairly similar..

Now with water? I would be interested in trying.. someone just has to send me a loop

But in the end I am not a pro,, I only played with it for about a month or two..

And some of you guys have big pulsing brains, unlike moi

Mussels said:
Ah, if you're doing WCG then yeah you're gunna want static all core, at efficient settings

The 5950X's are beasts and work very well when they are tuned better, I find the happy medium is keeping them in the 50's range for temps (C range of temps, F range might be a little hard pushed!! :laugh:

) but its personal preference I think.

I don't see the point in pushing it too the limit with the temps because as it's been mentioned the rewards and the power consumption don't really give much over the standard settings...

What VCore do you have set on the CPU if you've changed it at all? I've found with previous 3 series Ryzen CPUs more so, that I could lower the VCore back to like 1.0v and it still give some brilliant performance, but the actually system wattage is about the 140w under full load. I didn't get as much luck with either 5950X CPU's I've tried so far but my 3950X seems to be ok... I set the Vcore to a fixed rating and keep an eye to the temps. If I'm happy with the temps I'll crunch on it...
At the moment this is my daily rig so it's at the moment, busy lol

Copying data, ripping, crunching and posting up WCG stats and whatever else Google Chrome is using nearly 8GB of RAM for

Here's a screen grab for it at the moment ....

I've not had my 5950X rig on much but that'll go on tomorrow so I can find the bios screen grabs I'd like to show you guys so I can understand what the heck I need to change in there to get a bit more performance out of it with some luck

I think that is running about the 3.80GHz +/- and hitting about the 52 - 55C mark ish under custom water (triple 420 rad, nothing exciting at all) but it's working. The 3950X is under a quad 560 rad.. Fans are turned down a lot and sadly they are different models to what's installed on the triple and the triple is like a test bench but the 560 rad is in a case, which might not be doing such great things for the temps...

Thank you for the pointers guys, very appreciative!

freeagent · Dec 24, 2021

phill said:
What VCore do you have set on the CPU if you've changed it at all?

For when I run all core clocks, I usually limit it to 1.25v and 4500MHz.. temps are usually around the mid 50s to about 60 or so.. My fans are nice and quiet like that

My absolute max all load speed is 4600 at 1.3v, but with something like Linpack, it gets pretty intense, and I could probably use some of that WC gear

But I normally don't bother with all core stuff, as I do enjoy the single core performance the CPU offers, and letting it control its clocks (sorta) it will boost about 150MHz higher than my comfy all core speed but fans are moving at a "medium" pace so its a bit loud

Either way, performance is outstanding no matter which road you choose..

Mussels · Dec 24, 2021

@phill the 5800x i have is a different beast, as it was twice the wattage per CCX than you have. Keeping 50C on this would cripple it's performance. 5900x is the dream with two 6 cores, spreading that heat out far more efficiently.

As its summer here i'm in a tweaking binge to minimise wattage and heat output (40C ambients are about to begin)

I want the ST boost for the gaming, but want to stop these semi-random 80C spikes. I lapped the CPU, but think i need to lap the block as well next time.

YautjaLord · Dec 24, 2021

End of the year discount, 30% off.
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phill · Dec 24, 2021

Mussels said:
@phill the 5800x i have is a different beast, as it was twice the wattage per CCX than you have. Keeping 50C on this would cripple it's performance. 5900x is the dream with two 6 cores, spreading that heat out far more efficiently.

As its summer here i'm in a tweaking binge to minimise wattage and heat output (40C ambients are about to begin)

I want the ST boost for the gaming, but want to stop these semi-random 80C spikes. I lapped the CPU, but think i need to lap the block as well next time.

I heard something about that, something like it was better to actually get a 5900X than it was to get the 5800X... Crazy....

Mussels · Dec 25, 2021

phill said:
I heard something about that, something like it was better to actually get a 5900X than it was to get the 5800X... Crazy....

It's not like they consume more power or they're in any danger from the temps, it's just that the heat is so dense you simply cant cool it well, no matter what you do

Custom loop and liquid metal TIM, still seeing 80C
Is it fast? F*ck. Yes. That ST performance is magic.
Does it output intel levels of wattage? not at all

It's like the days when intel used shitty TIM under the IHS, theres just a power limit before heats cant be cooled any more.

freeagent · Dec 25, 2021

An action shot running WCG:

Mussels · Dec 25, 2021

Canadian flag exhaust tickles me the right way

freeagent · Dec 25, 2021

What do you guys think of this board? Its on sale..

MSI MEG B550 UNIFY-X AM4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Newegg.ca

tabascosauz · Dec 25, 2021

freeagent said:
What do you guys think of this board? Its on sale..

MSI MEG B550 UNIFY-X AM4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Newegg.ca

Buy mine? It's still upon FB marketplace since people seem to think that 2DIMM = bad

I was pleasantly surprised by MSI, they only need serial number for RMA. When I sold my TUF the guy asked for original receipt, which I didnt understand until I checked Asus policy

YautjaLord · Dec 25, 2021

freeagent said:
An action shot running WCG:

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I like the monitors too.

How much watt each pump? Sorry for OT.

Also, nice temps. :toast:

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freeagent · Dec 25, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Buy mine? It's still upon FB marketplace since people seem to think that 2DIMM = bad

I took it out of my cart.. couldn't do it..

Asus has been good to me over the years and having a hard time leaving.. have yet to make any kind of decision yet.. need some breakfast first now that I have been up for a few hours

YautjaLord said:
I like the monitors too. How much watt each pump? Sorry for OT.

Also, nice temps.

Thanks! Not much as my amp is only 40wx 7

The sub is an old Monitor Audio FB-210, only 250w RMS.. but still sounds ok..

TheoneandonlyMrK · Dec 25, 2021

Thinking of swapping out my 3800x for a 5600G, It matches my my use pretty good with a Vega64 and one nvme.
Mostly because the 3800 has better pciex support for use in a new test rig/server/possible folding cruncher.
I have the 5600G and a MSI board due to random purchase for someones pc but didn't pan out can't return it.

mama · Dec 25, 2021

freeagent said:
An action shot running WCG:

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I tried getting some info or a review on the ThermalRight cooler of yours 'çause it looks interesting. Wasn't very successful. Where can you point me?

freeagent · Dec 25, 2021

mama said:
I tried getting some info or a review on the ThermalRight cooler of yours 'çause it looks interesting. Wasn't very successful. Where can you point me?

I couldn't tell you.. I am a long time Thermalright user, I bought it the day they announced it and had it a week later

thesmokingman · Dec 25, 2021

tabascosauz said:
I think AM4 in general is winding down. Latest BIOS for me is 3801, the exact same as your 2423 (just different numbering due to X570/B550), and exact same as Dark Hero which is also 3801. So if that's the best available on Asus' top dog, then either we're not being left behind or we're ALL being left behind lol

I'm not touching 3801 though. Tried once and CPU performance is horrendous across the board. Not sure what they or AMD did.

Have you tried the modded bios, that is if your board is supported? Ze Germans have exposed a bit of the hidden features, it's kinda cool.

[Sammelthread] - ASUS X570 Strix Series (X570-E Gaming, X570-E Gaming Wifi II, X570-F Gaming, X570-I Gaming)

ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Wifi II ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ROG Strix X570-I Gaming BIOS/UEFI Versionen Reviews & VRM Häufig gestellte Fragen BIOS Mods Changelog Download Flashing and using on your own risk! Added VDDP Voltage Might be helpful for CPU...

www.hardwareluxx.de

Mussels · Dec 26, 2021

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Thinking of swapping out my 3800x for a 5600G, It matches my my use pretty good with a Vega64 and one nvme.
Mostly because the 3800 has better pciex support for use in a new test rig/server/possible folding cruncher.
I have the 5600G and a MSI board due to random purchase for someones pc but didn't pan out can't return it.

Isnt the 5600g "full" PCI-E lanes, with the one catch of being 3.0?

thesmokingman said:
Have you tried the modded bios, that is if your board is supported? Ze Germans have exposed a bit of the hidden features, it's kinda cool.

[Sammelthread] - ASUS X570 Strix Series (X570-E Gaming, X570-E Gaming Wifi II, X570-F Gaming, X570-I Gaming)

ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Wifi II ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ROG Strix X570-I Gaming BIOS/UEFI Versionen Reviews & VRM Häufig gestellte Fragen BIOS Mods Changelog Download Flashing and using on your own risk! Added VDDP Voltage Might be helpful for CPU...

www.hardwareluxx.de

Theres a what now??

tabascosauz · Dec 26, 2021

thesmokingman said:
Have you tried the modded bios, that is if your board is supported? Ze Germans have exposed a bit of the hidden features, it's kinda cool.

[Sammelthread] - ASUS X570 Strix Series (X570-E Gaming, X570-E Gaming Wifi II, X570-F Gaming, X570-I Gaming)

ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Wifi II ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ROG Strix X570-I Gaming BIOS/UEFI Versionen Reviews & VRM Häufig gestellte Fragen BIOS Mods Changelog Download Flashing and using on your own risk! Added VDDP Voltage Might be helpful for CPU...

www.hardwareluxx.de

Ah, about that, it looks like it's only for the Strix boards. I have a ROG Impact. The added features list is just the stuff that Asus took away from the Strix boards (which is a damn travesty) - they're all still there in the ROG BIOS.

Seems like there's a new 3901 BIOS out now with AGESA 1205. But feeling lazy right now and not enthusiastic about redoing the billion settings I have

TheoneandonlyMrK · Dec 26, 2021

Mussels said:
Isnt the 5600g "full" PCI-E lanes, with the one catch of being 3.0?

Theres a what now??

I don't see a pciex4 GPU in my coming months and it does do 3.0x16 to the GPU.
It's a minor sacrifice for the possibility to test some other GPU I have sat around, I could with the 5600g though I suppose.

Mussels · Dec 26, 2021

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
I don't see a pciex4 GPU in my coming months and it does do 3.0x16 to the GPU.
It's a minor sacrifice for the possibility to test some other GPU I have sat around, I could with the 5600g though I suppose.

I meant that with the exception of a 4.0 NVME drive, is there really a loss?

I was wondering if you thought it was like the older APU's where it lost PCI-E lanes

TheoneandonlyMrK · Dec 26, 2021

Mussels said:
I meant that with the exception of a 4.0 NVME drive, is there really a loss?

I was wondering if you thought it was like the older APU's where it lost PCI-E lanes

Seems perfect besides 6/12 cores I game on it occasionally, also I am thinking I might have to solder cables onto this Vega, it's been hammered to the extent the power pins are tarnished to all hell, they're giving me issues occasionally.

Mussels · Dec 26, 2021

Lap your CPU pins, it's the only way to be sure

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Memory	2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3600 CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX3080 Ti FE
Storage	SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB
Display(s)	LG 34GN850P-B
Case	SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB
Audio Device(s)	SoundBlaster G6 \| Fidelio X2 \| Sennheiser 6XX
Power Supply	SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse	Endgame Gear XM1R
Keyboard	Wooting Two HE

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case	The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

Processor	AMD R9 9900X @ booost
Motherboard	Asus Strix X670E-F
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO, 2x T30
Memory	2x 16GB Lexar Ares @ 6400 28-36-36-68 1.55v
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC @ 3045/1500
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, 2x SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Asus ProArt PA602
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

System Name	YautjaLord
Processor	Ryzen 9 5900x @ 3700MHz
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme rev. 1.1
Cooling	EK-XE360mm front/SE360mm top/3xVardar 120mm top/3xbe quiet! Light Wings 120mm High Speed PWM/etc....
Memory	HyperX Predator 4x8GB 4000MHz @ 4000MHz
Video Card(s)	1xGigabyte RTX 3080 Master 10GB rev. 3.0 (watercooled)
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (system)/Samsung 960 Pro M.2 NVMe (system) \|Samsung T7 Shield 1TB USB Type-C
Display(s)	LG 27GN950-B 4k IPS 1ms 144Hz HDR
Case	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 rev. 2 Black/Orange
Audio Device(s)	Integrated
Power Supply	Corsair HX1200
Mouse	Dragonwar ELE-G4.1 laser gaming mouse 9500dpi
Keyboard	Corsair K60 Pro Low Profile
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H2

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

System Name	RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor	Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard	Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling	360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory	Gskill Trident Z 3900cas18 32Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s)	Asus tuf RX7900XT /Rtx 2060
Storage	Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s)	Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case	Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s)	Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply	corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse	Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard	Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD	Oculus rift
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	laptop Timespy 6506

System Name	1. Glasshouse 2. Odin OneEye
Processor	1. Ryzen 9 5900X (manual PBO) 2. Ryzen 9 7900X
Motherboard	1. MSI x570 Tomahawk wifi 2. Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 670E
Cooling	1. Noctua NH D15 Chromax Black 2. Custom Loop 3x360mm (60mm) rads & T30 fans/Aquacomputer NEXT w/b
Memory	1. G Skill Neo 16GBx4 (3600MHz 16/16/16/36) 2. Kingston Fury 16GBx2 DDR5 CL36
Video Card(s)	1. Asus Strix Vega 64 2. Powercolor Liquid Devil 7900XTX
Storage	1. Corsair Force MP600 (1TB) & Sabrent Rocket 4 (2TB) 2. Kingston 3000 (1TB) and Hynix p41 (2TB)
Display(s)	1. Samsung U28E590 10bit 4K@60Hz 2. LG C2 42 inch 10bit 4K@120Hz
Case	1. Corsair Crystal 570X White 2. Cooler Master HAF 700 EVO
Audio Device(s)	1. Creative Speakers 2. Built in LG monitor speakers
Power Supply	1. Corsair RM850x 2. Superflower Titanium 1600W
Mouse	1. Microsoft IntelliMouse Pro (grey) 2. Microsoft IntelliMouse Pro (black)
Keyboard	Leopold High End Mechanical
Software	Windows 11

Processor	AMD 5900x
Motherboard	Asus x570 Strix-E
Cooling	Hardware Labs
Memory	G.Skill 4000c17 2x16gb
Video Card(s)	RTX 3090
Storage	Sabrent
Display(s)	Samsung G9
Case	Phanteks 719
Audio Device(s)	Fiio K5 Pro
Power Supply	EVGA 1000 P2
Mouse	Logitech G600
Keyboard	Corsair K95

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