Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Mussels]

You have something else unique - a chipset fan that has been running at over 3000 rpm for six hours

Love this mobo, but it has this retarded cover over the chipset heatsink to "help cool" NVME drives

Someone elses image of how they cut out a sheet of plastic to replace it after they went water, showing the dumbass design (this shows the removable plastic cover, vs the NVME heatsinks that look part of it)

Theres a really choked bit of mesh covering the fan that i may just give up cut out or something

What it looks like under the cover (not my image)

*vomits everywhere*

God damn you, now i want to drain the loop, remove the mobo, replace the thermal pad under that heatsink and mod the cover...

Goddamnit, 60C idle and 70C load is too much for my OCD to handle - todays *cold* damnit

the problem is simple... the GPU covers a huge chunk of a shittily designed fan shroud

You should feel bad for the work you're about to make me do... i have a huge pile of new but mixed thermal pads, i cant even tell the dimensions of them easily now... ugh

Most are arctic, but i have some gelid extreme and gelid pro in thicker sizes too.... uuuuugggghhhhhh

If removing the cover from the shroud helps, i'll forgive you.
if not... you wont notice anything cause i'll be offline for 8 hours tweaking this shit


Edit 9001: Yeah, it's not airflow... the stock pad must be toast. ffs. TOTAL TEARDOWN TIIIIIIME.

 

[mstenholm]

Sorry

 

[freeagent]

Smack that CPU with some higher limits and wake it up

 

[Mussels]

Good news!


With a total rebuild incluiding draining and refilling the loop, using the most expensive thermal pads out there and hours of shenanigans you'll love to hear that the temperature dropped from 68.8C to 58.8C and the fan RPM is now only 1,100


Dry and crumbly, holy crap it was bad

blurry image sorry, VRM pads were not so bad - replaced with gelid's anyway (right side is leftover scraps)

I tested this *first* before ripping shit apart, and it made 0C difference - thats how i knew the pads were bad.
But ummm... more airflow now.

 

[freeagent]

Nice one! What kind of pads are you using?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Good news!


With a total rebuild incluiding draining and refilling the loop, using the most expensive thermal pads out there and hours of shenanigans you'll love to hear that the temperature dropped from 68.8C to 58.8C and the fan RPM is now only 1,100


Dry and crumbly, holy crap it was bad

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blurry image sorry, VRM pads were not so bad - replaced with gelid's anyway (right side is leftover scraps)

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I tested this *first* before ripping shit apart, and it made 0C difference - thats how i knew the pads were bad.
But ummm... more airflow now.
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I have considered doing similar to my laptop but scared.

 

[freeagent]

I have considered doing similar to my laptop but scared.

I want to do it to my GPU but I too am scurred.

If there were lots of GPU's available I wouldn't be so scurred

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I want to do it to my GPU but I too am scurred.

If there were lots of GPU's available I wouldn't be so scurred

I have plenty of GPU, they're all just too old or and broken , I have a couple quadros , a Tesla , Radeon vii , 5870, gtx 660 and many more , but the only working ones are a Vega in use years , a 1060 and 3 just for an output 940 or AMD similar tat used for diagnosis.

I might do some baking this weekend.

 

[freeagent]

I have plenty of GPU, they're all just too old or and broken , I have a couple quadros , a Tesla , Radeon vii , 5870, gtx 660 and many more , but the only working ones are a Vega in use years , a 1060 and 3 just for an output 940 or AMD similar tat used for diagnosis.

I might do some baking this weekend.

If my 3070Ti kicks the bucket I just have my 980 Classified, and then my kids will have to go back to the GTX 580.. there will be tears if that happen.. from all of us

 

[Mussels]

Nice one! What kind of pads are you using?

These ones are gelid ultimate 2.0mm, i got the wrong size in the past for a GPU but they fit nicely here

After an hour it's still the same, instead of going 60 and revving its guts up (not that i could hear it at 3K RPM anyway, it's a quiet fan)

Those two were 43C each earlier, i believe those are the two VRM sensors

12 hours later:

Same results

So umm.... x570 users should check their chipset cooling and replace thermal pads/paste around the 2 year mark. I hadnt even noticed mine was so bad, i assumed it was the addition of PCI-E 4.0 devices combined with summer that made it hotter.

 

[freeagent]

I almost bought a 5950X. It was in my cart, all I had to do was enter the 3 digits on the back of my card.. but then I chickened out..

I have the itch, and the night isn't over yet

Maybe I will see what I can buy for the price of a 5950

 

[outpt]

I almost bought a 5950X. It was in my cart, all I had to do was enter the 3 digits on the back of my card.. but then I chickened out..

I have the itch, and the night isn't over yet

Maybe I will see what I can buy for the price of a 5950

Remember; no guts no glory.

 

[R-T-B]

I almost bought a 5950X. It was in my cart, all I had to do was enter the 3 digits on the back of my card.. but then I chickened out..

I have the itch, and the night isn't over yet

Maybe I will see what I can buy for the price of a 5950

I don't regret getting my 5950X FWIW.

 

[freeagent]

I don't regret getting my 5950X FWIW.

I have that same feeling I had before I bought my 5600X, I think it might be a good one.. but it is over a thousand beaver bucks here.. Then I was like well I could sell my 5900X for 500 or so, but she's been good to me I don't want to part with it.. and I cant part with my 5600X either lol. I also noticed the 5800X is cheaper than my 5600X was.. so 5GHz boosts with a possible 2K 1:1 green light.. I might go that route.. and a board for my kid

I hate money. And being indecisive is terrible.

 

[tabascosauz]

I have that same feeling I had before I bought my 5600X, I think it might be a good one.. but it is over a thousand beaver bucks here.. Then I was like well I could sell my 5900X for 500 or so, but she's been good to me I don't want to part with it.. and I cant part with my 5600X either lol. I also noticed the 5800X is cheaper than my 5600X was.. so 5GHz boosts with a possible 2K 1:1 green light.. I might go that route.. and a board for my kid

I hate money. And being indecisive is terrible.

Not much sense in a 5800X, you may as well wait for 5800X3D if that was the case. Probably get rid of the 5600X then, it's not like Vermeer was ever some sort of memory OC champion anyways. Anything the 5600X does the 5600G can kick it to the curb. Since you're able to push the 5900X so hard.

But then again there literally isn't anything that a 5950X doesn't do better than 5900X. Except you are still playing the lottery so don't sell until you're sure where the new chip stands, make sure it's not some kind of dud 5950X that tops out at 4850

And hey the 5950X would give you an excuse to build a loop, if you take the chains off it's the only chip of the 4 that draws power like a real [Intel] man

 

[Mussels]

Buy me the 5950X, you know i'll treat it rough just the way CPU's like it

with 400 grit sandpaper on our first date, ooh baby

 

[YautjaLord]

Gotta be careful with this substance:


After many failed attempts of applying this thing b4, my 1st successful run. Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut, GTX 760 is test subject. Next 2 will be 5900X & RTX 3080 Master.

Buy me the 5950X, you know i'll treat it rough just the way CPU's like it

with 400 grit sandpaper on our first date, ooh baby

Personal sanding machine would be nicer & quicker, but i get what you saying.

P.S. Look at it, it's like Carolina Reaper death nut of TIMs, or something :

 

[freeagent]

So I have been looking on and off for a new board.. and right now it’s between the Dark Hero, and the new Strix-E II. I would like the DH, my question is, is it worth the money? I would stick with B550, except I noticed in my case, Asus has been very slow to update to the newest Agesa, whereas DH and Strix-E II are on the newest already, and have been for a little while now.

 

[tabascosauz]

So I have been looking on and off for a new board.. and right now it’s between the Dark Hero, and the new Strix-E II. I would like the DH, my question is, is it worth the money? I would stick with B550, except I noticed in my case, Asus has been very slow to update to the newest Agesa, whereas DH and Strix-E II are on the newest already, and have been for a little while now.

I'd go with the DH for the OC buttons and Directkey alone. Strix is still what, $359 for just a POST code and DH is $450? OOPS $540 lol never mind

I'm sorry, maybe prejudiced but Strix will always be fake ROG

Is there even any benefit to new AGESA these days? No real performance to be had, I still get best results on 3601, only using 3904 to fix that Win 11 bug.

 

[freeagent]

I'd go with the DH for the OC buttons and Directkey alone. Strix is still what, $359 for just a POST code and DH is $450? OOPS $540 lol never mind

I'm sorry, maybe prejudiced but Strix will always be fake ROG

Is there even any benefit to new AGESA these days? No real performance to be had, I still get best results on 3601, only using 3904 to fix that Win 11 bug.

I’m am new to the whole strix thing But that new Strix-E has the dynamic oc switcher too.. I was hung up on the agesa thing after seeing your aida results in 11.. grr..

What about the regular crosshair viii, is that a good board?

 

[tabascosauz]

I’m am new to the whole strix thing But that new Strix-E has the dynamic oc switcher too.. I was hung up on the agesa thing after seeing your aida results in 11.. grr..

What about the regular crosshair viii, is that a good board?

Payback for convincing me to buy the P3 case huh

Don't worry about that, it doesn't make a difference to performance. Like the 4000 APU L3 bug, it's just AMD surreptitiously manipulating how the CPU behaves in the AIDA test to get better results. CPU still behaves exactly as trash as it used to in 11 benchmarking.

How about a X570 Unify-X Max?

 

[freeagent]

Payback for convincing me to buy the P3 case huh

Don't worry about that, it doesn't make a difference to performance. Like the 4000 APU L3 bug, it's just AMD surreptitiously manipulating how the CPU behaves in the AIDA test to get better results. CPU still behaves exactly as trash as it used to in 11 benchmarking.

How about a X570 Unify-X Max?

No no of course not, I only want you to be happy, I think you would be happy with a P3

Ok, I wont worry about AGESA.. much.. but a mild case of ocd will keep it in the back of my mind fer a bit

How about a X570 Unify-X Max?

I have been running Asus pretty much exclusively since I got into computers back in 02. In the old days I had a few Abits and a DFI, but outside of those its just been Asus. I actually fear moving to someone else.. is that crazy or what? Am I crazy? probably a little.. I cmon how can you not be ?

Especially with this hobby

I was talking about this stuff to a guy at work the other day and I blew his mind. He is like wait a minute, you are talking about this stuff like it is cars.. and I was like.. yeah man, how fast do you want to go? Depends on your wallet just like cars lol. I gently explained some of the tuning process and the results and gains and he seemed like he was considering a build as he scoffed at his dinosaur. IHe knows about overclocking, and I told him it is pretty much done.. There is still some left to exploit, but not much.

/ramble

550 bucks man, wtf.

Edit:

Whoops had an X58 UD5 before my R3F. So a single giga board..

 

[Mussels]

I’m am new to the whole strix thing But that new Strix-E has the dynamic oc switcher too.. I was hung up on the agesa thing after seeing your aida results in 11.. grr..

What about the regular crosshair viii, is that a good board?

Wait, which strix-E is that? the dynamic switcher is something i *thought* my board had when i bought it, due to a mixed up user review


ASUS Launches Four New X570 Motherboards | News｜ASUS Global


Damnit, the V2 looks like a good upgrade. They fixed the chipset heatsink (not mixed with M.2 any more), upgraded/added wifi and LAN - and the dynamic switcher is something i think ryzen really needs -.- (but was useless locked to overpriced exclusive boards)

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

No no of course not, I only want you to be happy, I think you would be happy with a P3

Ok, I wont worry about AGESA.. much.. but a mild case of ocd will keep it in the back of my mind fer a bit

How about a X570 Unify-X Max?

I have been running Asus pretty much exclusively since I got into computers back in 02. In the old days I had a few Abits and a DFI, but outside of those its just been Asus. I actually fear moving to someone else.. is that crazy or what? Am I crazy? probably a little.. I cmon how can you not be ?

Especially with this hobby

I was talking about this stuff to a guy at work the other day and I blew his mind. He is like wait a minute, you are talking about this stuff like it is cars.. and I was like.. yeah man, how fast do you want to go? Depends on your wallet just like cars lol. I gently explained some of the tuning process and the results and gains and he seemed like he was considering a build as he scoffed at his dinosaur. IHe knows about overclocking, and I told him it is pretty much done.. There is still some left to exploit, but not much.

/ramble

550 bucks man, wtf.

Curve ball, absolutely loving the crosshair impact has everything most will need.

Looks somehow tidier than many other options, I had a crosshair vIi. Before and I haven't regretted it.

 

[freeagent]

Wait, which strix-E is that? the dynamic switcher is something i *thought* my board had when i bought it, due to a mixed up user review


ASUS Launches Four New X570 Motherboards | News｜ASUS Global


Damnit, the V2 looks like a good upgrade. They fixed the chipset heatsink (not mixed with M.2 any more), upgraded/added wifi and LAN - and the dynamic switcher is something i think ryzen really needs -.- (but was useless locked to overpriced exclusive boards)

It looks like a nice board.. DOCS, screw less m.2, newest wifi and Bluetooth.. and no SLi..

Do I need it? Not right now.. would I miss it? Probably not.. but as an X570S board.. it should have it..