Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT Pulse

[jabbadap]

if there's more headroom, why is this the same tiny one for pretty much all the recent radeons? going through your reviews, the oc for radeons is by a quick check ~3% throughout their stack, while nvidia is more like 7-8% or even more?

Voltage is limited in sake of that great efficiency. The same goes with RX 5700. But look at RX 5700 xt, 1.2V and 200MHz more clocks than this. Heck you can't even OC this as high, what the clocks for RX5700xt are at stock.

 

[Vayra86]

This looks very good indeed. At the expense of temps that are still in control (83C is the same peak we see on Nvidia pretty much) and noise unde control... a lot of performance.

Well played, Sapphire & AMD. This is a good OC under warranty, why complain No you can't OC it yourself, but this one is guaranteed.

For some reasons AMD fans have colonized all the forums and online discussions on the Internet but they don't rush to buy the products of their favourite company. I've never understood that.

Its the same idea as reading on negativity on comment sections and forums. Its no fun saying all is well, complaints are always more vocal than the large percentage that doesn't care what camp they buy from and is just happy gaming.

And yeah. Time to market really is AMD's problem now and also has been since Kepler really. Nvidia has had much stronger launches ever since they revamped their stock cooler to something that looks the part. They call it NVTTM for a reason. And of course the quick follow up from AIBs.

 

[birdie]

Well if Nvidia gets more RTX 2060 cards out for $300 or less, the new 5600xt will be a tough sell.

-Better o/c with the 2060 now that AMD blew their load on the factory oc

-more features like DLSS along with CUDA which my video software happens to use

-6 GB of Nvidia vram = 8 GB of AMD vram
ok, exaggerating just a little, but nvidia still has the better memory compression. Could be useful for ultra textures down the road.

The RX 5600 XT will be a tough sell because the RTX 2060 has been available for over a year already and everyone who needed that kind of performance has likely long upgraded. The second reason it that RTG cards are still nowhere to be seen in Steam HW Survey which is the best known representation of the graphics market. AMD really needs to compete - not offer comparable products long after the competition has started selling them.

For some reasons AMD fans have colonized all the forums and online discussions on the Internet but they don't rush to buy the products of their favourite company. I've never understood that.

 

[bobalazs]

As long as you factor MSRP into your formula, I think you should care.

As i said in the end it doesn't really matter, 'cause prices aren't set internationally. A recommended price is easily ignored here.

 

[HD64G]

This Pulse iteration of RX5600XT having a great cooler and efficiency while winning over 2060 in both performance and price is a KO against nVidia. And as many have posted weeks ago, this GPU would replace Vega GPUs. And it did so indeed. With the old BIOS it matches Vega56 and with the new one it does so with Vega64.

 

[SL2]

I'm on the fence with this Navi.

On the one hand they have finally matched the power efficiency of NVIDIA GPUs which utilize ... a much worse node. Still it's a great achievement considering AMD's recent financial woes.

AMD's own comments on the APU development gives us clues about overall GPU improvements and efficencies, and it wouldn't surprise me if that has been carried over to their graphics cards as well.
The difference between the 12 nm Ryzen 3000H/U APU's and the upcoming 7 nm Ryzen 4000H/U is that the latter has fewer CU's, down to 8 from 11, but it's still 15 % faster, and both are still VEGA architecture.

"..each Vega CU in 3rd Gen Mobile is 59% faster than 2nd Gen .."

"When we put Vega into a mobile form factor with Ryzen 4000, we learned a lot about power optimization. 7nm was a part of it sure, but it was also a very power optimized design of that architecture. The really good thing about that is that what we learned is all applicable to Navi as well. David’s team put a huge focus on performance per watt, and that really comes out of the mobile form factor, and so I’m pleased with what they are doing. You will see a lot of that technology will also impact when you see Navi in a mobile form factor as well. "

This is why Ryzen 4000 Renoir APUs can offer 59% higher performance per CU despite still being on Vega

The AMD Ryzen 4000 Renoir APUs have a reduced number of compute units (CUs) compared to Raven Ridge, but improvements to the architecture means that they can offer higher clocks and a 59% higher performance per CU. AMD plans to eventually transition these improvements into upcoming Navi...

www.notebookcheck.net

We all knew that AMD GPU's needs higher efficency, ant I think we're starting to see the improvements now.

 

[notb]

RT on 2060 is pretty useless.

Except it's OK on 1080p if you can mentally accept settings other than the highest possible.

The cheapest rtx 2060 which is newly released Evga KO is selling at 320 at newegg

Why don't we just wait and see how much 5600XT costs after launch.

ASUS is $335. What if other top models (MSI Gaming X, Nitro etc) are around that mark? Is their pricing official yet?
2060 will cost just as much after latest price change. It uses less power. And it provides RTRT - which some will like and some won't (but it's there and it's almost free compared to 5600XT).

 

[Durvelle27]

Except it's OK on 1080p if you can mentally accept settings other than the highest possible.

Why don't we just wait and see how much 5600XT costs after launch.

ASUS is $335. What if other top models (MSI Gaming X, Nitro etc) are around that mark? Is their pricing official yet?
2060 will cost just as much after latest price change. It uses less power. And it provides RTRT - which some will like and some won't (but it's there and it's almost free compared to 5600XT).

Who buys a GPU just to use the lowest setting. That's broken logic

Its like buying a 4K display and playing on the lowest settings by than you lost the benefit of it in the first place.

If you are going to RT at low you might as well leave it off as you won't see any difference

 

[Jinxed]

Who buys a GPU just to use the lowest setting. That's broken logic

Its like buying a 4K display and playing on the lowest settings by than you lost the benefit of it in the first place.

If you are going to RT at low you might as well leave it off as you won't see any difference

typical AMD fan. did he say lowest setting? no. he said not the highest, which actually means pretty much everything on highest and set raytracing to low or medium. the output still looks much better than without raytracing.

 

[sutyi]

typical AMD fan. did he say lowest setting? no. he said not the highest, which actually means pretty much everything on highest and set raytracing to low or medium. the output still looks much better than without raytracing.

Except it's OK on 1080p if you can mentally accept settings other than the highest possible.

Why don't we just wait and see how much 5600XT costs after launch.

ASUS is $335. What if other top models (MSI Gaming X, Nitro etc) are around that mark? Is their pricing official yet?
2060 will cost just as much after latest price change. It uses less power. And it provides RTRT - which some will like and some won't (but it's there and it's almost free compared to 5600XT).

Hungarian pricing euroland with 27% VAT

Sapphire PULSE RX 5600XT - 103370HUF ~ 309EUR

Cheapest RTX 2060 6GB model, that aint a one fan crapshoot:

Palit GeForce RTX 2060 GamingPro 6GB - 115990HUF ~ 347EUR

EVGA RTX 2060 KO edition is more like MIA here in Hungary.

 

[Durvelle27]

typical AMD fan. did he say lowest setting? no. he said not the highest, which actually means pretty much everything on highest and set raytracing to low or medium. the output still looks much better than without raytracing.

AMD fan yes who owns a RTX 2070 ok

Obviously like i said if you are going to use RT using it at the lowest setting serves no benefit and you're better off without.

 

[Xaled]

Except it's OK on 1080p if you can mentally accept settings other than the highest possible.

Why don't we just wait and see how much 5600XT costs after launch.

ASUS is $335. What if other top models (MSI Gaming X, Nitro etc) are around that mark? Is their pricing official yet?
2060 will cost just as much after latest price change. It uses less power. And it provides RTRT - which some will like and some won't (but it's there and it's almost free compared to 5600XT).

Why don't you mention 2060s "top models".
Same Asus of 2060 is selling at 390$ so it is 55 cheaper. Asus cards are always overpriced, they claim they offer top quality components and they have 3 years warranty

AMD fan yes who owns a RTX 2070 ok

Obviously like i said if you are going to use RT using it at the lowest setting serves no benefit and you're better off without.

No, Nvidia just wants you to smell it. If you want to eat it you have to buy the 2080ti

 

[Jinxed]

AMD fan yes who owns a RTX 2070 ok

Obviously like i said if you are going to use RT using it at the lowest setting serves no benefit and you're better off without.

yet your own profile hw info here shows a 5700xt (ASRock RX 5700 XT Challenger OC ) you sir know nothing about real-time raytracing.

 

[Durvelle27]

yet your own profile hw info here shows a 5700xt you sir know nothing about real-time raytracing.

Yes I've had RX 5700, RX 5700 XT, and RTX 2070 Ultra

So yes I've had experience with RT

 

[Jinxed]

Yes I've had RX 5700, RX 5700 XT, and RTX 2070 Ultra

you mean rtx 2070 "super", no?

So yes I've had experience with RT

no, i don't think so.

 

[Durvelle27]

you mean rtx 2070 "super", no?

no, i don't think so.

Ok buddy I'm not going to drag this out

 

[John Naylor]

Stop making idiot comparisons, gaming z is one of the most expensive models. It is 90$ more expensive

You are comparing a 360USD SKU to a 290USD SKU.

Pick anyone ya want and see if you can do better.

Let's see who the idiot is ... The 5600 XT even loses to the nVidia FE. Pick anyone 2060 ya want and see if you can do better.

Performance: NVidia FE is 5+% faster the 5600 XT AIB card
Power: Same Power Draw
Noise: Same Noise Level
Temps: Nvidia FE is cooler

Basic 1080p box w/ Pulse = $1200
Basic 1080p box w/ Gaming Z = $1290 ..... 7.5% ($1290 / 1200) more expensive

Performance = (112.23% / 102.09) = 109.9%

What to you call spending 7,5 % more money to get a 9.99% increase in performance ? .... a) sound investment....b) no brainer.

Card​	1080 Perf.​	OC​	OC'd Perf.​	Power​	Temp.​	Noise​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
5600 XT Pulse​	100.00%​	2.09%​	102.09%​	164​	74​	32​
Reference 2060​	98.00%​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
2060 Gaming Z​	100.00%​	12.23%​	112.23%​	187​	68​	31​
Reference 2060​	97.00%​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
2060 FE​	98%​	9.45%​	107.26%​	164​	73​	32​

 

[Xuper]

Asus and MSI are quite much better.the only cards with sub 60 degree GPU.also VRM = 55'c and 48'c for MSI

 

[sutyi]

2060 Gaming Z

You are comparing a 360USD SKU to a 290USD SKU.

 

[Xaled]

How so ? TPU data charted below

Card​	1080 Perf.​	OC​	OC'd Perf.​	Power​	Temp.​	Noise​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
5600 XT Pulse​	100.00%​	2.09%​	102.09%​	164​	74​	32​
Reference 2060​	98.00%​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
2060 Gaming Z​	100.00%​	12.23%​	112.23%​	187​	68​	31​
Reference 2060​	97.00%​	​	​	​	​	​

Stop making idiot comparisons, gaming z is one of the most expensive models. It is 90$ more expensive

 

[nguyen]

Who buys a GPU just to use the lowest setting. That's broken logic

Its like buying a 4K display and playing on the lowest settings by than you lost the benefit of it in the first place.

If you are going to RT at low you might as well leave it off as you won't see any difference

RT reflections and RT transparent reflections in Control and Deliver Us The Moon make those games more immersive than any other settings...

 

[John Naylor]

Stop making idiot comparisons, gaming z is one of the most expensive models. It is 90$ more expensive

You are comparing a 360USD SKU to a 290USD SKU.

Pick anyone ya want and see if you can do better.

Let's see who the idiot is ... The 5600 XT loses to the nVidia FE. Pick anyone ya want and see if you can do better.

Card​	1080 Perf.​	OC​	OC'd Perf.​	Power​	Temp.​	Noise​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
5600 XT Pulse​	100.00%​	2.09%​	102.09%​	164​	74​	32​
Reference 2060​	98.00%​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
2060 Gaming Z​	100.00%​	12.23%​	112.23%​	187​	68​	31​
Reference 2060​	97.00%​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​
2060 FE​	98%​	9.45%​	107.26%​	164​	73​	32​

 

[SL2]

Asus and MSI are quite much better.the only cards with sub 60 degree GPU.also VRM = 55'c and 48'c for MSI

Well the Asus is also more expensive, you might as well get a 5700 for the same money.

 

[Sithaer]

Hungarian pricing euroland with 27% VAT

Sapphire PULSE RX 5600XT - 103370HUF ~ 309EUR

Cheapest RTX 2060 6GB model, that aint a one fan crapshoot:

Palit GeForce RTX 2060 GamingPro 6GB - 115990HUF ~ 347EUR

EVGA RTX 2060 KO edition is more like MIA here in Hungary.

Yup.
I would rather buy the cheaper and at least decent Sapphire 5600 XT than the crappiest single fan 2060. 'not even sure about that Palit myself so its even more $'
And like you said EVGA is nope around here.

+Top of that I have a freesync monitor and the last time I've borrowed a 1660S it did not work perfectly well with my monitor.

 

[SL2]

Pick anyone ya want and see if you can do better.

Let's see who the idiot is ... The 5600 XT loses to the nVidia FE. Pick anyone ya want and see if you can do better.

And where exactly can you buy the FE for a similar price? Nether pcpartpicker, geizhals nor nvidia have any listed.