Singaporean Retailer Lists Purported Ryzen 3000 Pricing

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"Singaporean retailer Bizgram recently published a product catalog featuring some surprising newcomers: the Ryzen 3000 series. These CPUs have not been officially announced yet, although these specific model names have been leaked before. AMD has explicitly said "mid-2019" for the release date of the new CPUs, so to see a retailer already listing them is very curious, though expected when it comes to upcoming CPUs.

Firstly, at this stage, it's unlikely prices have been finalized down to the dollar (and the prices are in Singaporean dollars, by the way). Usually, with these types of listings, prices do end up changing. For example, the Xeon W 3175 and the Core i9-9900K were listed at much higher prices than they actually launched at across several retailers. Bizgram did, however, leak 9th gen Intel prices and some specifications a month before they launched, with prices being very accurate compared to launch prices, so the retailer does have some credibility.

More interesting are the CPUs listed, which are identical not only in name but also in the order listed in AdoredTV's leak last year. It's hard to say what's happened here with this listing. Perhaps Bizgram just copied the rumored spec sheet and guessed what pricing would be, essentially listing the pricing as a placeholder. Or these CPUs could be authentic, Bizgram accidentally published them in this listing, and AdoredTV's leaked spec sheet is accurate up to model names and prices. Everyone would like for this rumor to be true, but given how little AMD has talked about Ryzen 3000, it's hard to make any sort of judgment at this stage."

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-specification-price,38731.html

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I don't care about the cost really as they will be priced fairly decently as per previous ryzen, what I do want is a 4.8ghz+ clocked 3600x

 

[EntropyZ]

Hear, hear. Just the thought of popping a 3600X into my X470 motherboard is exciting. If they can get a steady 4.5-4.8GHz boost. I'm all over it. I still wonder what the higher than 3200 MHz DDR4 clock stability situation is going to be. No-one is talking about that, it's a point I would like to go over, especially when DDR4 prices are still dropping, is the AM4 platform still maturing in that aspect?

 

[Metroid]

amd must have done some work from their January announcement, and as far as i can tell 3rd March to May 28th is about 3 months more, so deadline is getting close and so the product release.

 

[Lorec]

that 3700X ... omg I had like wet dreams about it since the AdoredTV video.
12/24... 5ghz boost for cheaper than 8700K.
my body is ready, hope my x470 mobo will be ready as well.

 

[Vario]

Ryzen 3/3300 looks tasty at that price point assuming it has the same or near same IPC as Coffee Lake.

 

[ChristTheGreat]

ummm, Would be an icce upgrade for fun. my 2600x and my 1700 (server).

 

[RealNeil]

Nice price points.
That 3600X looks mighty tempting to me.
I have been stashing cash for a while to get the next generation Ryzen and it's mainboard. Looks like I already have enough put aside.

 

[robot zombie]

If I can drop one of those in my x370 Id be super pumped to have that 3600x. But then, the 3700x with 12/24 and 5ghz boost would be kind of a monster at that price. I would love to be able to do more with virtualization

Though honestly an 8/16 that clocks nearly 5ghz would be enough for me. Heres hoping theres something to this.

 

[notb]

So the first thing that comes to mind: frequencies look made up.

As for core count: everything seems more or less as expected.
With Ryzen 3, 5, 7 you get more or less 50% more cores compared to Intel at similar price point. Good, but nothing shocking. First Ryzen gave us twice as many cores.
At the moment Intel doesn't have an answer for a 16C on the consumer socket. And hopefully it won't happen. What a pointless CPU... :/ They're repeating the same error they make with GPUs: "but it's great for productivity". I don't understand why this is happening.

And I'm looking forward to comments from some people who mocked Intel for adding the i9 lineup.

 

[robot zombie]

So the first thing that comes to mind: frequencies look made up.

As for core count: everything seems more or less as expected

My hitch is just that everything with every zen 2 leak sounds too perfectly in line with what everyone on the hype train wants. That, in itself, is suspect to me. I personally dont expect core counts to go up for every chip in the lineup. Seems unrealistic and unneeded. Why cannabalize Zen + so soon? I also dont expect 5ghz. Close, maybe. Between those two things and prices tossed out, one of those three things cannot be.

 

[notb]

My hitch is just that everything with every zen 2 leak sounds too perfectly in line with what everyone on the hype train wants. That, in itself, is suspect to me. I personally dont expect core counts to go up for every chip in the lineup. Seems unrealistic and unneeded. Why cannabalize Zen + so soon? I also dont expect 5ghz. Close, maybe. Between those two things and prices tossed out, one of those three things cannot be.

"So soon"? I wouldn't expect these CPUs to come out in H1. 7nm... we know how it ended for Radeon VII. Not only is this node in short supply, it clearly needs a lot of polishing.
Releasing Zen 2 so soon seems like a bad idea... unless AMD knows that Intel 10nm is pretty close - so they can't wait any longer for TSMC to improve.
Also, notice the APU parts mention Navi, not Vega.

 

[cucker tarlson]

some people like moar cores,and don't care about +60Hz gaming anyway.
For me personally,I just wish the new cpu strikes a better balance between gaming and productivity,if packing a bazillion cores into a home gaming/utility pc meant something more than just pure bragging I'd have gotten threadripper already.

 

[EarthDog]

Wonder how the 135W part, especially overclocked, will work in some of these midrange X470/B450 mobos...I'm imagining some it may not like... like the FX days...

For me personally,I just wish the new cpu strikes a better balance between gaming and productivity,if packing a bazillion cores into a home gaming/utility pc meant something more than just pure bragging I'd have gotten threadripper already.

This. I could care less about more than 6c/12t (like the VAST majority of users). So yay.. more cores and threads.


And.....quoting from wccftech... bleh.

 

[Mindweaver]

I hope this is real. I wanted the 3600 when I thought it was 6/12, but if it's 8/16 then I want it even moar.. lol

 

[SL2]

Is it a bit too early? I thought launch will be in June, so I wouldn't expect anything like this for another two months..

So yay.. more cores and threads.

If it means more cores, higher clock speeds and higher IPC for the same price, then why not?
I know, it's a big if..

 

[Countryside]

Planning on putting together a ryzen budget build for myself the 3300 fits in nicely.

 

[EarthDog]

If it means more cores, higher clock speeds and higher IPC for the same price, then why not?
I know, it's a big if..

I ask why in return? So few people, INCLUDING enthusiasts, don't need more than 6/c12t. So it bothers me to see so many cores/threads on the mainstream platform. Software still hasn't caught up.. we've had hex cores for a decade and octos for 8 and still software can barely use it. A hex w/HT will last its usable lifetime (5 years or so)...Id rather improvements come in clock speed and IPC (which we will see here, but, I could care less about 8c/t+ on mainstream.

I understand WHY it happens, but, that doesn't take away my annoyance.

 

[ArbitraryAffection]

IDK but i dont believe the specs.. but.... if its true i will get 3700X to retire 2700X to 24/7 crunching duty. XD.. 12 cores should be enough to rip through renders/editing and crunching when im asleep but fast enough clocks for good fps gaming too

come on AMD, make it happen!

I ask why in return? So few people, INCLUDING enthusiasts, don't need more than 6/c12t. So it bothers me to see so many cores/threads on the mainstream platform. Software still hasn't caught up.. we've had hex cores for a decade and octos for 8 and still software can barely use it.

I understand WHY it happens, but, that doesn't rake away my annoyance.

Crunching. CRUNCHING! ALWAYS MORE CORES. ALWAYS MORE NUMBERS! Ahem. I guess i could render lego models faster too?

If this is true Intel is in for a world of hurt.

Sorry I'm excited, and Hyper.

 

[EarthDog]

Crunching. CRUNCHING! ALWAYS MORE CORES. ALWAYS MORE NUMBERS! Ahem. I guess i could render lego models faster too?

YOu are right. But also act like that is something most users do when reality is most haven't heard of it... nor rendering cute lego models. There is a need for that, but more for the prosumer and the HEDT platforms. The lins are blurred at best.

 

[ArbitraryAffection]

So the first thing that comes to mind: frequencies look made up.

As for core count: everything seems more or less as expected.
With Ryzen 3, 5, 7 you get more or less 50% more cores compared to Intel at similar price point. Good, but nothing shocking. First Ryzen gave us twice as many cores.
At the moment Intel doesn't have an answer for a 16C on the consumer socket. And hopefully it won't happen. What a pointless CPU... :/ They're repeating the same error they make with GPUs: "but it's great for productivity". I don't understand why this is happening.

And I'm looking forward to comments from some people who mocked Intel for adding the i9 lineup.

yeah, let's argue for having less hardware! it makes perfect sense! So instead of paying 500 bux for a 16 core, I'd rather pay 500 bux for an 8 core. Btw: If these Zen2 cores match Skylake IPC and clocks, $200 3600 will match $488 9900K. *Laughs in Ryzen*

YOu are right. But also act like that is something most users do when reality is most haven't heard of it... nor rendering cute lego models. There is a need for that, but more for the prosumer and the HEDT platforms. The lins are blurred at best.

You think my Volture Battleship is cute? CUTE? That thing can wipe out entire cities from orbit. It's not cute!

 

[Countryside]

I ask why in return? So few people, INCLUDING enthusiasts, don't need more than 6/c12t. So it bothers me to see so many cores/threads on the mainstream platform. Software still hasn't caught up.. we've had hex cores for a decade and octos for 8 and still software can barely use it. A hex w/HT will last its usable lifetime (5 years or so)...Id rather improvements come in clock speed and IPC (which we will see here, but, I could care less about 8c/t+ on mainstream.

I understand WHY it happens, but, that doesn't take away my annoyance.

Look how many years were sat on 4 cores just because there were no competition, software will catch up.

 

[ArbitraryAffection]

Look how many years were sat on 4 cores just because there were no competition, software will catch up.

Yep! Intel stagnated the maket with quads for what, a decade? Nobody had any incentive to produce more threaded software. Ryzen changed that. But still Intel fans will find a way to argue that having less cores is better.

 

[Wavetrex]

3700X will sell like hotcakes if it can indeed hit 5 Ghz.
Lower price than 9900K, 50% more cores, same clocks, similar or even better IPC.

Exciting year if it proves true !

 

[Countryside]

Yep! Intel stagnated the maket with quads for what, a decade? Nobody had any incentive to produce more threaded software. Ryzen changed that. But still Intel fans will find a way to argue that having less cores is better.

They can argue thanks to the magical IPC sauce.

Can't wait to get hands on 3000 series to do some benchmarking.