Singaporean Retailer Lists Purported Ryzen 3000 Pricing

[Darmok N Jalad]

going from 14nm to 12nm got amd around 300mhz give or take 50mhz. so going from 12nm to 7nm will probably get them another 300mhz so we should see procs in the 4.5ghz-4.7ghz range. i think its also safe to say we will see around 12% ipc increase form 14nm going to 7nm along with a more optimized infinity fabric. i dont expect to see 5ghz parts but an 8 core ryzen at 4.7ghz would be really nice.

I’m not sure I follow. It sure looks like the design of Ryzen 1/1.5 was architecturally limited to current clockspeeds. Ryzen 2 will likely fix those issues to allow better clockspeed scaling, and I’m sure they will squeeze more IPC to boot. I can totally see 5.0GHz as a possibility, as Intel can push 14nm+++ to 5.0GHz already. Unless AMD can surpass Intel’s current IPC, I’d say anything less than 5.0GHz will be a bit of a disappointment for me, as it would mean that AMD is still at a single thread performance deficit.

 

[Final_Fighter]

I’m not sure I follow. It sure looks like the design of Ryzen 1/1.5 was architecturally limited to current clockspeeds. Ryzen 2 will likely fix those issues to allow better clockspeed scaling, and I’m sure they will squeeze more IPC to boot. I can totally see 5.0GHz as a possibility, as Intel can push 14nm+++ to 5.0GHz already. Unless AMD can surpass Intel’s current IPC, I’d say anything less than 5.0GHz will be a bit of a disappointment for me, as it would mean that AMD is still at a single thread performance deficit.

im just putting out reasonable numbers. if amd can deliver more than this that would be great. i just dont see 5ghz as the norm. its likely that some particular parts may do 5ghz and that would be great. my expectation is that we will get 10%~15% boost in ipc and between 4.5-4.7ghz as the norm. mind you that this is a pretty decent jump in performance. if you head over to the cinebench thread and look at the scores for many of those ryzen 7 2700x's and run some numbers like what 15% more performance would add to them and 300 more mhz then you would see that the r7 2700x would align with the i9 9900k and thats what amd demoed zen2 competing against. i also understand that it was an early sample and the final product may be faster but ive had my hands on to many early build procs to know that what was demoed is pretty close to a finalized build so long as no bugs where found. it was also a highly binned chip that was used no doubt so that they could show off.

 

[SL2]

No desktop products have been announced, so there’s no way to know. AMD did announce 3000 series mobile parts, but they are 12nm Zen 1.5.

I think the least probable thing about the OP's list is the suggestion of Zen 2 APU's at launch, or even this year.

I posted this in the launch thread:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...nches-2019-updated.242077/page-5#post-4005912

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

im just putting out reasonable numbers. if amd can deliver more than this that would be great. i just dont see 5ghz as the norm. its likely that some particular parts may do 5ghz and that would be great. my expectation is that we will get 10%~15% boost in ipc and between 4.5-4.7ghz as the norm. mind you that this is a pretty decent jump in performance. if you head over to the cinebench thread and look at the scores for many of those ryzen 7 2700x's and run some numbers like what 15% more performance would add to them and 300 more mhz then you would see that the r7 2700x would align with the i9 9900k and thats what amd demoed zen2 competing against. i also understand that it was an early sample and the final product may be faster but ive had my hands on to many early build procs to know that what was demoed is pretty close to a finalized build so long as no bugs where found. it was also a highly binned chip that was used no doubt so that they could show off.

Fair enough. With the delay, it is sure fun to speculate. I’m just as curious to see what Apple has in store for the desktop with their own custom designs. I don’t think they’d make an architectural move without something to show for it, but that’s another topic!