SK hynix Platinum P41 2 TB

[TheLostSwede]

I bet it's the same reason why DDR5's pricing is still orbital.

No.

 

[chrcoluk]

Good to see an alternative to Samsung thats fully in house.

 

[Aquinus]

Not worth testing both, the load patterns should be similar enough. I picked MySQL because it's more common, and I didn't want to buy a MSSQL or Oracle license

That's interesting. I've always considered Postgres as the go-to enterprise-grade OSS solution for RDBMSes, not MySQL. I completely understand the absolutely absurd costs of MSSQL and Oracle though. I might be biased because I've used it a lot, but it has some pretty sexy features that MySQL doesn't have. Parallel query execution is a biggie for big datasets on fast storage with a lot of cores.

 

[Wirko]

picked MySQL because it's more common, and I didn't want to buy a MSSQL or Oracle license

Commercial DB vendors don't allow you to publish benchmark results anyway.

 

[W1zzard]

Commercial DB vendors don't allow you to publish benchmark results anyway.

First amendment, sue me please, would be a great story

 

[Valantar]

First amendment, sue me please, would be a great story

The first amendment only bars the government from restricting your speech (and isn't even universal - there are exemptions for hate speech and more), but it has literally no bearing on what a private company can and can't put into a contract or their terms of service/EULA. By that understanding, the very concept of an NDA would be unenforceable, after all.

 

[W1zzard]

The first amendment only bars the government from restricting your speech (and isn't even universal - there are exemptions for hate speech and more), but it has literally no bearing on what a private company can and can't put into a contract or their terms of service/EULA. By that understanding, the very concept of an NDA would be unenforceable, after all.

I'll claim that clause of their ToS violates my human rights and is unenforceable .. just sue me .. this is the same as some ToS saying "you can only talk positively about the company"

 

[Valantar]

I'll claim that clause of their ToS violates my human rights and is unenforceable .. just sue me .. this is the same as some ToS saying "you can only talk positively about the company"

And you would most likely lose. As I said, by this reasoning concepts like NDAs would then be entirely unenforceable - which is quite clearly not the case. Of course there then appears a new point of friction between contractual law and journalistic freedoms, which AFAIK is typically judged on the question of whether publishing the information in question is beneficial to the public or not. Which would be a possible line of argument, but a pretty weak one in a case like this - it's not like the tests are likely to showcase anything groundbreaking, after all. Which means the public benefit is minimal. There's also the question of harm to the company that is typically weighed against this, but I've never heard of a case where there's little public benefit but the defendant still wins (or the suit is dismissed) because the harm was minimal - courts are far too friendly to corporations for that. That isn't to say that a lot of contract law isn't absolute BS - it very obviously is - but that's another thing entirely. The first amendment or broader principle of freedom of speech doesn't really apply. And referencing the first amendment in cases that don't involve government restrictions on speech just demonstrates a lack of understanding of what that amendment covers.

 

[Assimilator]

What an amazing drive, a worthy successor to the P31 (except for the price, but they have the right to charge good money fro a good product - unlike Samsung). It is sad however that SK hynix only seem to come out with these amazing controllers when said controller is effectively obsolete because controllers supporting the next version of PCIe are on the horizon. But on the flipside, nobody needs PCIe 5.0 SSD speeds (nor PCIe 4.0 if we're being honest).

@W1zzard I was also seriously confused by the extra line on the temperature graphs, please could you add an extra key of "Reported Temperature"?

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard I was also seriously confused by the extra line on the temperature graphs, please could you add an extra key of "Reported Temperature"?

Added in the text below, kinda complciated changing the chart style

is effectively obsolete

Just because they showed you a screenshot of a PCIe Gen 5 drive running CDM doesn't mean that anything is obsolete

 

[Valantar]

Just because they showed you a screenshot of a PCIe Gen 5 drive running CDM doesn't mean that anything is obsolete

Haven't you heard that you're legally obligated to throw out any hardware that isn't based on the newest standard?

 

[W1zzard]

Haven't you heard that you're legally obligated to throw out any hardware that isn't based on the newest standard?

I guess I should be an advocate for that, considering that I run a tech site .. but nope .. my work PC is a 8700K

 

[Valantar]

I guess I should be an advocate for that, considering that I run a tech site .. but nope .. my work PC is a 8700K

IMO, you ought to be exactly the opposite of that: an advocate for not mindlessly chasing upgrade mania and tech fetishism, but rather making informed choices and being mindful of actual benefits over being transfixed by the new and shiny. And I think you and the others at TPU do a pretty decent job of that! But hey, what do I know?

 

[W1zzard]

Here's the official statement regarding European markets: "The P41 is currently only available in the US and Asia. No specific European release date yet."

Kinda meager, but it is what it is

 

[bobbybluz]

I just ordered the 1TB drive off Amazon. It'll be here Friday. Every review I've read says it's an outstanding product.

 

[chrcoluk]

Here's the official statement regarding European markets: "The P41 is currently only available in the US and Asia. No specific European release date yet."

Kinda meager, but it is what it is

Well you tried.

The statement does at least indicate its coming at some point.

 

[Nater]

I just ordered the 1TB drive off Amazon. It'll be here Friday. Every review I've read says it's an outstanding product.

Has anyone heard of these drives dying prematurely?


About to order three for new builds at work. Our IT guy went a little off the rails on me IMO when he saw this drive in my PCPartpicker list. Requested that I change it to a drive with at least a 1200TBW rating "for what you do" and that they've had them dying often enough that they're not recommended by them. I had to bite my tongue as I was sitting on the call w/ the owner, but I was shaking my head. I can't find ANY negative about this drive other than it runs hot. Every review is positive, and it really seems to be the best all around SSD going right now as far as speed and value.

I can only imagine he's thinking of the many failures reported on Dell systems over on a reddit thread I found on some OEM SK Hynix SSD's from like 2 years+ ago (Pre-dates the P31 even I believe).

For the record I do CAD modeling, drafting, and CAM programming using SolidWorks/BobCAD/Camworks.

The guy also shit all over Asus Prime mainboards. I've ran Asus boards for 20 years now, especially since Abit went under - never had an issue.

 

[bobbybluz]

Has anyone heard of these drives dying prematurely?


About to order three for new builds at work. Our IT guy went a little off the rails on me IMO when he saw this drive in my PCPartpicker list. Requested that I change it to a drive with at least a 1200TBW rating "for what you do" and that they've had them dying often enough that they're not recommended by them. I had to bite my tongue as I was sitting on the call w/ the owner, but I was shaking my head. I can't find ANY negative about this drive other than it runs hot. Every review is positive, and it really seems to be the best all around SSD going right now as far as speed and value.

I can only imagine he's thinking of the many failures reported on Dell systems over on a reddit thread I found on some OEM SK Hynix SSD's from like 2 years+ ago (Pre-dates the P31 even I believe).

For the record I do CAD modeling, drafting, and CAM programming using SolidWorks/BobCAD/Camworks.

The guy also shit all over Asus Prime mainboards. I've ran Asus boards for 20 years now, especially since Abit went under - never had an issue.

I have two of them now with absolutely no complaints. They run cooler and faster than my Samsung 980 Pro's. SK hynix has been around for decades and this is their flagship NVMe drive. Like Samsung they make everything in it themselves. They're good enough to give a few a shot to try out (and make regular backs of).

 

[W1zzard]

About to order three for new builds at work. Our IT guy went a little off the rails on me IMO when he saw this drive in my PCPartpicker list. Requested that I change it to a drive with at least a 1200TBW rating "for what you do" and that they've had them dying often enough that they're not recommended by them. I had to bite my tongue as I was sitting on the call w/ the owner, but I was shaking my head. I can't find ANY negative about this drive other than it runs hot. Every review is positive, and it really seems to be the best all around SSD going right now as far as speed and value.

These drives are so new on the market, I can't imagine anyone has reached their TBW rating yet. He's probably confusing them with some old drives. Also "for what you do", "CAD modeling, drafting, and CAM programming using SolidWorks/BobCAD/Camworks", you will never even get close to a few hundred TBW. You can check this on your current drive, and IT should be doing that regularly to get a feel for TBW needs and when to start replacing drives before they go read-only

 

[Nater]

These drives are so new on the market, I can't imagine anyone has reached their TBW rating yet. He's probably confusing them with some old drives. Also "for what you do", "CAD modeling, drafting, and CAM programming using SolidWorks/BobCAD/Camworks", you will never even get close to a few hundred TBW. You can check this on your current drive, and IT should be doing that regularly to get a feel for TBW needs and when to start replacing drives before they go read-only

I'm with ya 110% on all points. TBW isn't even on my radar when shopping for this stuff, and I didn't want to start a nerd war by asking him how many his company has installed in the last few years. (it's been available for what, 6 weeks?)

The only thing I think I may do is look into finding a heatsink for at least the drive that will be out on the shop floor. We don't have AC outside of the offices, and here in the summer in Michigan it gets downright NASTY out on the shop floor. 95°+ F on some days.