Sparkle Arc A580 Orc

[sLowEnd]

Sparkle A750 is $189 right now on amazon if someones going intel that's probably the better option in the US anyways.

For the purpose of AV1 encoding, that's still a lot of extra money over the A380, which is going for $100

 

[vlad.coolish]

Arc A770 $240

?Where
?Where I can buy
?Where I can buy Intel Arc A770 16GB for $240

 

[W1zzard]

?Where
?Where I can buy
?Where I can buy Intel Arc A770 16GB for $240

ASRock Phantom Gaming Arc A770 Video Card A770 PGD 8GO - Newegg.com

Buy ASRock Phantom Gaming Arc A770 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card A770 PGD 8GO with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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Edit: oh this is an 8 GB model. Will update the pricing for A770 16 GB and remake the charts

Video summary posted:

 

[Ruru]

A pretty "meh" release. Not good but not bad either.

+pretty good price/performance
-too late for the market. I thought that Intel was going to release the 300/500/700 series at the same time

And those blue PCIe connectors look actually pretty damn good.

 

[bug]

A pretty "meh" release. Not good but not bad either.

+pretty good price/performance
-too late for the market. I thought that Intel was going to release the 300/500/700 series at the same time

And those blue PCIe connectors look actually pretty damn good.

Remember when ATI cards used to have red PCBs?

 

[Ruru]

Remember when ATI cards used to have red PCBs?

Hell yeah I do. Since the Radeon 9700 days.

 

[ViperXZ]

A few criticisms:

- why is the 6600 (vanilla) missing from the efficiency chart? It's one of the most efficient cards and missing

- there's no strategy of AMD with "follow Nvidia -10% pricing". 7900 XTX vs 4080 = 1000 vs 1200$, that's more than "10%" less. 7900 XT vs 4070 Ti, 800-850 vs 800-850 = 0%, yet the card is 10% faster and has a ton more vram. 7800 XT vs 4070 Ti = 550 vs 800-850$, that's way less than 10% and about 12% slower, which is also a joke, aside from it having 4 GB more vram (4070 Ti = literally one of the worst GPUs ever released). 7800 XT vs 4070, 550 vs 600$, yea, ~10% but the card is faster. 7700 XT vs 4060 Ti = 80 dollars more expensive but faster (400$ vs 480$), with 50% more vram. You're nearly always wrong.

- you keep stressing DLSS 3 (Frame Generation), as a 4090 owner i can tell you this: i used it in CP2077, 1 game and that's it. Now that I'm finished with the addon (which was good btw), i will not use it anymore. DLSS 3 Frame Generation is 90% marketing and 90% useless, if not 99%. If you happen to play one of the few games that has it, and your fps are so low that you NEED to use it (despite it lowering the iq), congrats! CP2077 is one of the few exceptions where both cases happen at the same time (game has it and you NEED to use it for highest settings with PT on, otherwise enjoy 60~ fps with normal DLSS which is also doable and then even discards this one use case).

- in general DLSS is important, DLSS 3 isn't (frame generation is pretty rarely needed for fps and lowers image quality).

With everything else I didn't criticize I mostly agree + I'm shocked that a GPU of 2021+ only got HDMI 2.0 - this GPU is garbage due to that alone, for people that would use it with a modern 4K TV that needs HDMI 2.1 for 120 Hz.

 

[W1zzard]

why is the 6600 (vanilla) missing from the efficiency chart?

RX 6600 non-XT is not part of my standard comparison cards. For the recent RX 7600 release I've retested its performance, so we know where it stands today in comparison to other cards. This data is useful for this review, too, so I've included it. I didn't retest power because the card wasn't that much of a competitor to RX 7600 XT at the time. For A580 it is interesting data, so I've retested RX 6600 and updated the power charts in both reviews.

there's no strategy of AMD with "follow Nvidia -10% pricing"

My argument was that AMD's strategy is not aggressive on pricing anymore. Keep observing the market, it averages out surprisingly close to 10%. 100% agree with you that many performance aspects are considerably better in the matchups you mentioned, I was focusing on pricing strategy only

you keep stressing DLSS 3 (Frame Generation)

I enable it in every single game that supports it and rather turn off DLSS upscaling because I can't stand the loss of high-contrast details.
Everybody has different preferences, but I don't think anyone doubts that FG is a major technology and an important point for NVIDIA (how much value you put on it differs of course. I touched on this in the in the "vs RTX 4060" part of the conclusion)

 

[lexluthermiester]

The card comes with a nifty RGB-lighting temperature monitoring feature that doesn't require any additional software.

That is very useful! I like that. Sparkle makes good card as a general rule and I really like the looks of this one. Very good visual stylings!

RX 6600 non-XT is not part of my standard comparison cards.

Nor should it be. The performance differences between the XT and non-XT version of the 6600 are not worth all the extra effort that would be needed.

- in general DLSS is important, DLSS 3 isn't (frame generation is pretty rarely needed for fps and lowers image quality).

You just contradicted yourself. DLSS3 is a progression and evolution of DLSS.

 

[ViperXZ]

RX 6600 non-XT is not part of my standard comparison cards.

That is too bad, it's the most sold card of AMD and one of the most sold cards in general.

My argument was that AMD's strategy is not aggressive on pricing anymore

I don't agree, 7900 XTX is faster than 4080 while costing 200$ less, that's pretty aggressive. You can't give it away on a loss obviously, I hope you're not arguing like those people who don't understand what cards cost to produce nowadays. 7800 XT is nearly as fast as 4070 Ti with more vram, can be aggressively overclocked to match it, while costing about 300$ less. Aggressive enough. Hard disagree.

I enable it in every single game that supports it and rather turn off DLSS upscaling because I can't stand the loss of high-contrast details.

FG isn't that good quality wise so I can't understand this (maybe it will be in the future). Regular DLSS is good quality wise and often a improvement over native, while FG at best you're lucky and don't lose quality (or you don't perceive it as a human being), or you straight have artifacts and picture errors as I observed myself while playing the prime game of frame generation Cyberpunk2077 which some people call Nvidia tech demo nowadays -- another hard disagreement.

You just contradicted yourself. DLSS3 is a progression and evolution of DLSS.

Not really and you failed to understand my point.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not really and you failed to understand my point.

Yes, really. But please do explain further.