TechPowerUp! Official IC Diamond Test

[Easy Rhino]

OK, but, the report does highlight the areas that might have been manipulated, and not all the "damage" is in those areas. So...your point is what, exactly?

his point is nothing. he knows the "evidence" in that PDF would not hold up in court if he had to use it to protect himself.

that brings me to my point. Andy is afraid of being sued for damages because he manufactures ( or pays someone to manufacture) a highly abrasive product (often used to polish metal!) in a thermal paste. this guy made a HUGE miscalculation coming on TPU throwing around threats and acting like he understands image forensics. he doesn't even understand the report he paid for!!

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Fine. Let me put a few obvious examples, plus the photos you've been given through Amped Five. Good enough for the army, good enough for me. Two can play forensic image manipulation game.
Guys, please email your pictures to n.layhe@googlemail.com

That would be the original untouched, unresized pictures. If you still have the camera email or the sd card maybe you can have the email pull the image straight from them.

 

[SonDa5]

From the report:

1) The file format data indicates that the digital image is a JPEG file and the digital camera used to create the image
is a Samsung SGH-T989 digital camera. Pixel dimensions equal 1326 x 1260, these dimensions are not consistent
with the resolution capabilities of the Samsung SGH-T989 digital camera. For this reason img0925G’s file format is
not consistent with an authentic digital image created by this camera.

If you look at the reflection off of the die you can see I am shooting the photo with my Samsung SGH-T989 through a magnified circular light. Similar to this one: http://www.lumiram.com/magnifying-lamps/112-comfort-view-round-magnifying-lamp.html


Ever hear of magnification in lenses?

The report is incomplete and inaccurate.

 

[sneekypeet]

Yes but re-compressing an image does not add local area manipulation as on these examples and This software is designed to identify areas of manipulation even on photos that have been multiply compressed

http://www.fmsconsultation.com/FIAS_Software.html

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

I find it funny that you are so legally smart, and want to throw around terms that aren't what you want to say (slander...maybe you should google that word before you look more like an idiot), but at the same time, by repeatedly posting the same link over and over again, you fit the definition of a spammer to TPU, I suppose you are working to get removed from here by not following the guidelines of posting. For someone who is so read up on everything, you would think the easy stuff wouldn't get buy you so easily

In the end you appear to be a martyr and are looking for retaliation from TPU as some form of proof that we are attacking you, when in reality, you are the one attacking, and have been all day since you couldn't keep your fingers idle and wanted to trash us as a whole on FB.... Remember Andy, Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. No matter what proof you have, in public you look like an arrogant ass who is out to get anyone who has issue with your sub-par product.

 

[IC Diamond]

I can easily contact Swiftech about the mark on my die and ask them about the whole incident. I was in contact with them when I noticed the problem because I thought it was related to an issue with the block itself at first. Swiftech defeneded the high quality of their block but they also offered me a replacement block just to please me.


IC Diamond I have not been contacted by anyone over the problems I had with IC diamond. I have only shared what I believe to be true. I still have the damaged GPU that works fine but the mark is there. I can easily take another photo of it with a different camera other than my phone.


You guys are way off. I don't wish your company failure but you guys are looking hokey with this report and then accusing your customers of being in some type of scheme to hurt you guys is over the top.

Your EXIF data, your camera, your picture, your ELA your DCT. -independent analysis by third party professionals

Send your Raw photo into a third party for analysis to prove that it is real otherwise it is as it stands

 

[SonDa5]

Your EXIF data, your camera, your picture, your ELA your DCT. -independent analysis by third party professionals

Send your Raw photo into a third party for analysis to prove that it is real otherwise it is as it stands

You call Swiftech and ask them about this. They may know and if they don't remember and you ask them kindly to call me then if they call me I will remind them of the incident.


I'm not making this up. Your report proves nothing and I hope you didn't have to spend money to get it done. Save your pennys and fix your company right.


Right now you should apologize to your customers and work on improving your product.

 

[sneekypeet]

Send your Raw photo into a third party for analysis to prove that it is real otherwise it is as it stands

You could learn to ask nicely so you don't look like such a toolbox. You have the burden of proof, and to be honest, if I was any of these guys I wouldn't send you shit, I would take my originals and any information I had to court with me when you start sending out your subpoenas. I also assume you plan to sue TPU since that is what your FB post states!

 

[RCoon]

Come on guys. Send me your originals. Ready and waiting.

 

[TRWOV]

I'm at work now but I'll look for them as soon as I get home.

 

[itsakjt]

Here goes. My Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 1 GB DDR5


DSC00407 by itsarijit21, on Flickr


DSC00406 by itsarijit21, on Flickr

You will be able to see scratches and dents and dots all over the die. Taken on Sony Cybershot WX50

Before ICD, it was like this. Sorry for the bad quality. Taken on Samsung Galaxy Y GT S5360


2012-09-29 23.58.14 by itsarijit21, on Flickr

 

[RCoon]

Here goes. My Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 1 GB DDR5

[url]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/9317330142_74106b4e04_o.jpg[/url]
DSC00407 by itsarijit21, on Flickr

[url]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2828/9317343106_ddd7e9c3aa_o.jpg[/url]
DSC00406 by itsarijit21, on Flickr

You will be able to see scratches and dents and dots all over the die. Taken on Sony Cybershot WX50

Before ICD, it was like this. Sorry for the bad quality. Taken on Samsung Galaxy Y GT S5360

[url]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5535/9314589759_d593736769_o.jpg[/url]
2012-09-29 23.58.14 by itsarijit21, on Flickr

IC Diamond apple-face, please state where on these images the manipulation could have occured.

 

[brandonwh64]

We are not the only people that have had problems with IC Diamond

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2073442

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=695748&mpage=1

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649643

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42128

MANY MORE!

 

[RCoon]

Here are my findings
Original Raccoon image, clearly edited, also multiply re-compressed. I can clearly show area where manipulation has occurred.

I will upload my reports shortly.

 

[IC Diamond]

From the report:




http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforIB/ICDIAMONDDUSTPIT/markondie.jpg


If you look at the reflection off of the die you can see I am shooting the photo with my Samsung SGH-T989 through a magnified circular light. Similar to this one: http://www.lumiram.com/magnifying-lamps/112-comfort-view-round-magnifying-lamp.html


Ever hear of magnification in lenses?

The report is incomplete and inaccurate.

Obviously magnification in lenses has nothing to do with anything as it does not explain the local area of manipulation.

This picture was an odd one so not surprised you selected it as the area of manipulation was not where the damage was alleged to have occurred which actually shows nothing perhaps a grease smear?- and one can only speculate as to reason it was done.

Otherwise the magnification argument is silly as the DCT's and the ELA's only appear in the alleged damaged areas and no where else and is a marker for local area manipulation

 

[itsakjt]

Obviously magnification in lenses has nothing to do with anything as it does not explain the local area of manipulation.

This picture was an odd one so not surprised you selected it as the area of manipulation was not where the damage was alleged to have occurred which actually shows nothing perhaps a grease smear?- and one can only speculate as to reason it was done.

Otherwise the magnification argument is silly as the DCT's and the ELA's only appear in the alleged damaged areas and no where else and is a marker for local area manipulation

CHECK my IMAGES you ****. Where can you find any manipulation? Come to my place and I will show you the damage!

 

[RCoon]

CHECK my IMAGES you ****. Where can you find any manipulation? Come to my place and I will show you the damage!

I see no evidence of manipulation except in two areas, I cannot deny or confirm manipulation in those two spots. Besides that, all legit damage.

 

[itsakjt]

I see no evidence of manipulation except in two areas, I cannot deny or confirm manipulation in those two spots. Besides that, all legit damage.

http://img.techpowerup.org/130718/possible.jpg

Thanks a lot. That says it all. And RCoon, I didn't tell you to check my image in that post. I told that IC Diamond named user here. Just thought should let you know because you quoted my post I meant for him.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

CHECK my IMAGES you ****. Where can you find any manipulation? Come to my place and I will show you the damage!

I'm disliking this douche the more I see him blindly repost the same useless links and totally disregarding counter arguments with generic bullcrap, if anything I think TPU should be the ones filing a lawsuit for defirmation

 

[IC Diamond]

CHECK my IMAGES you ****. Where can you find any manipulation? Come to my place and I will show you the damage!

Just because you dig up your dead grandmother put a couple of bullets in her and post her bullet ridden corpse on a forum as proof I killed her does not mean that's what happened.

Some conditions do apply to "evidence"

 

[RCoon]

Just because you dig up your dead grandmother put a couple of bullets in her and post her bullet ridden corpse on a forum as proof I killed her does not mean that's what happened.

Some conditions do apply to "evidence"

Wow. You just became the internets next Gr33n Gecko. Goodbye Andrew. I hope you enjoyed having a job. You've just publicly disgraced yourself.

 

[HammerON]

Just because you dig up your dead grandmother put a couple of bullets in her and post her bullet ridden corpse on a forum as proof I killed her does not mean that's what happened.

Some conditions do apply to "evidence"

That sir was out of line. You have absolutely no customer service skills let alone people skills. How you can even run a business is beyond me:shadedshu
Infraction for you sir. Please do not sue me.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Just because you dig up your dead grandmother put a couple of bullets in her and post her bullet ridden corpse on a forum as proof I killed her does not mean that's what happened.

Some conditions do apply to "evidence"

Wow, that is your response? you do realise you make a product that is geared toward enthusiasts and overclokcers and that you're on one of the most frequented enthusiast forums on the web that have many links and members that are also on many of the other top enthusiast forums who are likely to see how you are responding to people who have used your products right?

 

[IC Diamond]

In any event those in the report that would like to have the original raw images provided to an independent third party can email The address in the report

 

[RCoon]

In any event those in the report that would like to have the original raw images provided to an independent third party can email The address in the report

How about you ask for them in the first place
How about you do your job as a rep
How about you conduct yourself properly on a forum of prospective buyers
How about you take your arrogance some place else

I personally hope you crash and burn.

 

[cadaveca]

In any event those in the report that would like to have the original raw images provided to an independent third party can email The address in the report

I see your LinkedIn has ZERO contacts. I was not surprised by that.

I'm just some lowly reviewer, who posts reviews from his living room, and gets paid nearly nothing to do it. In other words, I'm just some broke, jobless loser posting on the internet. I get new contacts every week.

Consider that for a moment...while you re-read that post you made above.



I remember when you started the IC Diamond thing way back when, as I've been part of the PC enthusiast community for many years, on many different sites. I wish you some success, but please, consider your actions and the responses you've received.