The future of RDNA on Desktop.

[wolf]

If you can find any GPU at MSRP, please let us know.

Some trickle through here locally but are snapped up very quick, there's a reasonably popular site for stock alerts. Did surprise me that the 70Ti and 80 were having MSRP restocks at all, but it is happening.

Bear in mind I suppose that Nvidia's official MSRP prices in AUD are already heftily over the USD, such is living at the ass end of the world.

AFAIK AMD haven't released a direct AUD MSRP, so it has the potential to be a little sharper than Nvidia's local pricing I suspect, but again most 9070XT's are $1400+ AUD meaning ~$880 USD, cheapest so far that ever flashed briefly in stock was $1139 AUD or $720 USD, not bad!

 

[Jtuck9]

The thing about it is the UDNA 1 Card looks to be aways off. Everything is highly speculative at this point. But the launch window lies in the 2028 to 2031 timeframe. Several Sources, include Wendel from Level 1Techs, have cited the new card will be a Halo Product that will consist of 2 Dies. One for Compute Loads to handle CAD type work and a Second Die for Gaming. Both glued together with infinity fabric. The Graphics Die may very well be a direct descendant from the RDNA but that name may well be erased from the AMD History Books along with the Radeon Technologies Group. There were news stories circulating around a couple of weeks ago of Layoffs at RTG. It seems this is a precursor of what is to come at RTG. Once it gets cut down to a size that AMD views as acceptable to AMD Leadership the remnants will be folded into the CDNA Division. Once the consolidation is complete even the CDNA/UDNA nomenclature will disappear.

I must state the old RDNA Technology will not go away. To the contrary it will be developed and new Graphics dies produced under a different department with the Radeon Branding wiped out. As I opened this post RDNA could be snoozed for a while. AMD has stated there will be an RDNA 5 but it will be only for Consoles and APUs only. No discrete GPUs. That launch is some 18 months away. But after the RDNA 5 Launch is completed development of the UDNA Card goes full steam. At that point, early 2027, the discrete GPU market could be hungry for new series of cards. While AMD will be working on a new Halo Card for which AMD will charge Top Dollar. But what about the Midrange Market that AMD has cultivated ? We still can't gauge the Sustained Demand for RDNA-4. In the last 72 Hours Roman derBauer has revealed the RX9070XT's Performance can be pushed clear up to RTX5080 levels by Undercoating then Overclocking the High End RX9070XT Cards. This claim was replicated by another OverClocker in Indonesia 36 Hours later. We don't know if this operating regime is stable just yet but if it does it could finish-off the litany of screw-ups that has beset Nvidia and nail the coffin shut on the RTX 5000 Series. This in turn could create an Over Demand Problem for the 9070 Series leading to chronic shortages for the rest of 2025 and a complete sellout before the 2025 Holiday Season ends. What happens then if AMD has to go back to TSMC asking for a Supplemental run of New 9070 Wafers ? Does AMD just hand TSMC the files and say "another 1,000 Wafers please" or do they tempt fate with some Engineering Change Orders. Obviously AMD should know by the end of June how much strength the demand crush has and when they will run out of new cards.

These are still early days but all indications are pointing to AMD having to address problems it hasn't b my seen in a very long time.

It will be interesting to see where the cards intersect and diverge. A UDNA of the pipeline if you will

 

[AusWolf]

Some trickle through here locally but are snapped up very quick, there's a reasonably popular site for stock alerts. Did surprise me that the 70Ti and 80 were having MSRP restocks at all, but it is happening.

Bear in mind I suppose that Nvidia's official MSRP prices in AUD are already heftily over the USD, such is living at the ass end of the world.

AFAIK AMD haven't released a direct AUD MSRP, so it has the potential to be a little sharper than Nvidia's local pricing I suspect, but again most 9070XT's are $1400+ AUD meaning ~$880 USD, cheapest so far that ever flashed briefly in stock was $1139 AUD or $720 USD, not bad!

That's really not bad for "the ass end of the world".

Here in the UK, the cheapest 9070 XTs are the Sapphire Pulse and Powercolor Reaper, currently listed at £649. The cheapest 5070 Ti's are the PNY Triple Fan OC and Zotac Solid for £799.
The cheapest 9070 XT that's actually in stock is the Asus TUF OC for £799. Cheapest 5070 Ti in stock is the Zotac AMP Extreme Infinity (isn't that name a mouthful) for £889.

I'm blaming the new tariffs for these prices because even after the alleged "AMD price hike", the "5070 Ti - 150 bucks = 9070 XT" formula still holds. Therefore, I'm not sure if it'll get cheaper than this.

 

[wolf]

I'm blaming the new tariffs

That whole situation is cooked for sure things might even get worse before they get better.

 

[AusWolf]

That whole situation is cooked for sure things might even get worse before they get better.

Like I said in another thread, only if people had enough willpower not to buy overpriced garbage... That day will never come, will it?

 

[Jtuck9]

Like I said in another thread, only if people had enough willpower not to buy overpriced garbage... That day will never come, will it?

I'm not sure why they can't just reduce their e-waste and therefore reduce the prices for what people actually want. Really looking forward to e-waste recycling taking off, that circular economy in action. Maybe the irony being less purity leading to more e-waste but?!

 

[AusWolf]

I'm not sure why they can't just reduce their e-waste and therefore reduce the prices for what people actually want.

Because people pay for it anyway.

Look at flagship phones... Do we really need deals where you pay a bazillion $ each month for the chance to swap your phone for the new model every year? I don't think so. But those deals are hugely popular.

 

[wolf]

Like I said in another thread, only if people had enough willpower not to buy overpriced garbage... That day will never come, will it?

Like the tariffs and other things around the world, I think that also falls in the bucket of getting worse before it gets better. Maybe I'll just shut the blinds and escape in my games.

 

[Jtuck9]

Like the tariffs and other things around the world, I think that also falls in the bucket of getting worse before it gets better. Maybe I'll just shut the blinds and escape in my games.

What's that old adage? "write what you know"...

*despondent emoji*

The Novel I’m Searching For

Five years after the pandemic, I’m holding out for a story that doesn’t just describe our experience, but transforms it.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[AusWolf]

Like the tariffs and other things around the world, I think that also falls in the bucket of getting worse before it gets better. Maybe I'll just shut the blinds and escape in my games.

If technological "advancements" (=stagnation) continue on the path they've been going on recently, then I'm sorted for the next 2-3 generations minimum. This is the only thing I'm glad for in the present situation.

 

[Jtuck9]

If technological "advancements" (=stagnation) continue on the path they've been going on recently, then I'm sorted for the next 2-3 generations minimum. This is the only thing I'm glad for in the present situation.

Ezra Klein’s new take on AGI – and why I think it’s probably wrong

In a new episode of his podcast with Ben Buchanan former special adviser for artificial intelligence under Biden, entitled, The Government knows A.G.I.

garymarcus.substack.com

 

[LittleBro]

I'm blaming the new tariffs for these prices because even after the alleged "AMD price hike", the "5070 Ti - 150 bucks = 9070 XT" formula still holds. Therefore, I'm not sure if it'll get cheaper than this.

When USA apply import tarriffs, they should not affect rest of the world. Only valid reason would be that goods get imported by USA (get physically to USA first) and then are sold to EU, Asia, ... But this is not how it works. Distribution centres in EU get goods from Asia. Maybe USA import tarriffs are used as excuse to obfuscate enormous prices, still, tarriffs are not directly involved. Everyone in distribution cycle sees that customers are willing to pay anything for goods. I'd say AIB's and shops are scalpers now ... USA surely shits their own pants with introducing tarriffs for everything from anywhere outside of USA. It's not EU that relies on metals from USA to make cars. It's exactly the opposite. Crazy times we live in.

The only thing that can stop this is customer demand.