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crazy pyro said:
That my good sir... is UTTER genius!
What do you guys think of the whole AV/ FPTP thing? I should probably get around to doing some research as my dad's going to get me to vote either way...
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Vote Quimby!
 
That could be either way! Although Nick Clegg is probably nearer to Quimby than Cameron is through the whole having no abilitiy to rule/ power (Tuition fees being my main complaint about him).
 
The VAT increase is a bit crap but I doubt it's going to give me £24k extra debt before I've left uni!
 
the only uni i would ever pay that much for is cambridge.
 
Hey, it'll total up to £36k before you account for the various bursaries that I'll get, there's no way I can work in the civil service as an engineer without at least a BEng so I haven't really got a choice in the matter! (That said, the bursaries will be quite large because they give generously to MoD Civil Service engineers during their degree).
 
Spectrum said:
i personally hate the VAT increase.
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Blame that on Labour, they insist on having the welfare state. I am an "every man for himself" person, and a strong Darwinist. I appreciate that people do hit rough patches every now and then, hence we should have some sort of support, but able to claim benefits for months while not working is beyond me.

Edit: I don't see how you guys can complain that much, I will have a "debt" of over £150k pounds when I leave uni. Debit with "" because I don't need to pay as long as I work for my scholarship giver for 10 years. If I fancy a girl and want to start a family here, rest assured that I am more f**ked than you guys.

Edit2: You guys pay all sorts of tax, so I would appreciate it if you guys don't discuss this in detail, I had done that in the past and it went nowhere.
 
disability benefit is fair enough though... however, people who just can't be arsed to get up and go work are just scum.
i won't discuss taxes, however i do believe that the taxation on tobacco is just stupid.
 
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i don't mind working. i just wish they wouldn't cut my salary when the cost of living has gone up. we pay on average £70-80 VAT just for a frickin GTX580. its uncalled for. and low earners are being priced out of the market
 
It's something that needs a little balance. Welfare is needed because some people do genuinely require it, but there has to be a stricter enforcement of who gets it and for how long. Government should make up an elite police squad called B.E.A (Benefits Enforcement Agency)

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nah, the SAS has nothing to do these days, just get them to do that shit, as forming a new branch of the police would cost money, and we're already taxed hard enough.
 
KieX said:
It's something that needs a little balance. Welfare is needed because some people do genuinely require it, but there has to be a stricter enforcement of who gets it and for how long. Government should make up an elite police squad called B.E.A (Benefits Enforcement Agency)
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Yeah, but the people cheating the most is none other than .... politicians :shadedshu. They create all sorts of fancy policies to boost their public image, at the cost of UK's coffers. Shitstorm happened, and now they are too afraid to fix it because it might tarnish their image. Gordon Brown should thank Ms. Bigot for getting him out of the race.
 
Fourstaff said:
Yeah, but the people cheating the most is none other than .... politicians :shadedshu. They create all sorts of fancy policies to boost their public image, at the cost of UK's coffers. Shitstorm happened, and now they are too afraid to fix it because it might tarnish their image. Gordon Brown should thank Ms. Bigot for getting him out of the race.
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No doubt and I'd imagine large companies also have their fair share of dodging and cheating.

What really annoys me is the futility of this "democracy". Sure as hell nobody voted in these fools to do things the way they are. Then there's the Digital Economy Bill.. don't get me started on that.. takes the pi** out of the whole voting nation.

All the fancy talk and cr*p pre-election almost always delivers nothing. We knew it was going to be tough to "fix" the economy but these monkeys have taken a route that hurts the populace more than it helps it.

/rant
 
i think labour should be back in gov, i hated gordon brown but tony blair was cool (despite the whole blair-bush relationship)
 
KieX said:
No doubt and I'd imagine large companies also have their fair share of dodging and cheating.
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And who made the loopholes? Oh, wait...
 
personally i think most political parties are the same.

Labour want to be Tories, Tories want to be Tories, and lib dems have just rolled over.

Labour should have stopped the new labour thing, the party no longer represents the demographic is was set up to represent. The became middle class and a welfare state government. They should have been hard line industrialists pulling jobs back and getting manufacture up. They failed it's simple.

The Tories are no better they want to sell everything and have companies run the state. Fine from an economic stand off, But it allows for the people at the bottom to be stepped on. Just look at home heating prices. A lot of the companies that were set up and the shares that were issues belong to companies based outside the UK. They use it to milk the economy and raise fuel prices in legal ways. The few British parts of the home fuel industry just follow suit and claim that it's got to be done. Fortunately the new government isn't as aggressive as the Thatcher government i grew up with. These guys are devious back handed company execs. Thatchers government at least had the decency to be honest about it's intentions.


Don't get me started on the lib dems. LMFAO, There like Camerons dog. They just roll over and let there bellies get scratched... Happy to be somewhere but blissfully ignorant that the majority of the voters will go socialist alternative at the next election because they failed to show a spine.


I never thought i'd say this growing up but ATM i do not feel proud to be british... I feel almost 3rd class.
 
I think the SAS should form a rave party somewhere in UK and everyone in UK is invited.
 
no, you need a big DJ from london to go into a field somewhere with all his equipment and start pumping out really loud tunes like they did back in 89 and 90 :)

the sas would ruin it. there'd be a very big bloke with a pixelated face standing there at the entrance performing cavity searches.
 
crazy pyro said:
Hey, it'll total up to £36k before you account for the various bursaries that I'll get, there's no way I can work in the civil service as an engineer without at least a BEng so I haven't really got a choice in the matter! (That said, the bursaries will be quite large because they give generously to MoD Civil Service engineers during their degree).
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if you are applying this year like me, then fees will remain low (Max £3,375) for the duration of your course
 
Bo$$ said:
if you are applying this year like me, then fees will remain low (Max £3,375) for the duration of your course
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I applied this year but I'm doing a year long industrial placement so I get charged the full £9000 whack, dad just called to say that a letter from Loughborough had arrived saying exactly this. He's not got a job at the moment though so I'll get a quite heavy bursary (can't figure out what it is at the moment as the unis haven't decided).
 
I wonder how they would do the pricing for people who needs to repeat the year due to too much alcohol. Do you get shafted into paying £9000, or you are still in the £3k band?
 
still 3k band, as long as you apply this year
some gap year people are getting screwed over like crazypryo is
 
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