The TPU UK Clubhouse

[Millennium]

Post a tracert to www.techpowerup.com. Here's mine:

  1    30 ms    99 ms    99 ms  O2WirelessBox.lan [192.168.1.254]
  2    15 ms    17 ms    16 ms  x-x-x-x.zone2.bethere.co.uk [x.x.x.x]
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4    27 ms    15 ms    15 ms  206.165.73.37
  5   120 ms   119 ms   120 ms  te1-1.cer02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [64.215.81.2]
  6   120 ms   120 ms   119 ms  po6.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.18.213]
  7   121 ms   119 ms   120 ms  po2.fcr04.sr05.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.118.218]
  8   119 ms   120 ms   119 ms  www.techpowerup.com [208.43.3.154]

 

[scaminatrix]

Tracing route to www.techpowerup.com [208.43.3.154]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  BTHUB3 [192.168.1.254]
  2     8 ms     8 ms     9 ms  217.32.147.3
  3    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  217.32.147.30
  4    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  213.120.177.74
  5    11 ms    10 ms    11 ms  217.32.24.66
  6    11 ms    11 ms    10 ms  217.32.24.182
  7    11 ms    10 ms    11 ms  acc2-10GigE-0-7-0-4.l-far.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.1
59.249.202]
  8    15 ms    14 ms    15 ms  core2-te0-14-4-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
49.143]
  9    77 ms    11 ms    11 ms  transit1-xe0-1-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.
234]
 10    12 ms   109 ms    12 ms  t2c3-xe-9-2-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.25]
 11    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  t2c1-ge6-2.uk-glo.eu.bt.net [166.49.237.21]
 12    94 ms    94 ms    93 ms  t2c1-p5-0-0.us-ash.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.65]
 13    94 ms    94 ms    94 ms  te3-5.bbr01.eq01.wdc01.networklayer.com [206.223
.115.185]
 14   107 ms   106 ms   107 ms  po3.bbr02.tl01.atl01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.153]
 15   128 ms   128 ms   127 ms  po7.bbr02.eq01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.134]
 16   131 ms   130 ms   130 ms  po6.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.213]
 17   128 ms   133 ms   128 ms  po2.fcr04.sr05.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.11
8.218]
 18   129 ms   129 ms   129 ms  www.techpowerup.com [208.43.3.154]

Trace complete.

 

[scaminatrix]

Disabled onboard LAN, connected through Wi-Fi, no difference.

 

[InnocentCriminal]

If your net has only just be activated, it'll still be going through the tranning period which might explain things.

 

[scaminatrix]

Upgraded to FF4, seems a bit better, I'll see how it is tomorrow. Thanks for the helpys peepys.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

That's some nippy interwebz you got there!

Not as nippy as mine will be tonight, engineer from Virgin is coming out today upgrading my meagre 50mb to 100mb muahahahahaha

 

[InnocentCriminal]

Not as nippy as mine will be tonight, engineer from Virgin is coming out today upgrading my meagre 50mb to 100mb muahahahahaha

Hereford(shire) freaking sucks. I've recently been downgraded from 6.5Mbit to 3 due to the fact that Hereford fuckin' sucks!

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Hereford(shire) freaking sucks. I've recently been downgraded from 6.5Mbit to 3 due to the fact that Hereford fuckin' sucks!

That sucks man, I think I have had a least 10mb for the last 3 years or so, and thats before I moved to a Virgin area, best ADSL I have had was o2 @ 16mb

I get spot on 50mb and they are in my house as we speak doubling it i don't need 100mb but what the heck am gonna get it anyway

And just ordered my i5 2500k for Sat delivery tomorrow, am gonna have a wkd weekend

 

[InnocentCriminal]

That sucks man, I think I have had a least 10mb for the last 3 years or so, and thats before I moved to a Virgin area, best ADSL I have had was o2 @ 16mb

I get spot on 50mb and they are in my house as we speak doubling it i don't need 100mb but what the heck am gonna get it anyway

And just ordered my i5 2500k for Sat delivery tomorrow, am gonna have a wkd weekend

You SOAB!

I really want a new rig and broadband.

 

[Fourstaff]

I really want a new rig and broadband.

Do you have something to compensate for too?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Do you have something to compensate for too?

Hey if your gonna be bitchy at least get the grammer right.........

Are you trying to compensate for something too

you see?

And who the hell told you I have an embarssingly huge penis, it's not something you should poke fun at

 

[MilkyWay]

£33.90 a month is kinda expensive for just calls and broadband. Talktalk admittedly not the best company but certainly at least par or better than BT. I've got unlimited calls to house numbers and unlimited broadband, includes 0870 and 0845 numbers. They offer speeds fastest whatever is possible down my line. Right now offering £7.25 + £12.60 line rental for 6 months. Usually £14 + line rental which is still cheaper than BT. Apparently the talktalk customer service isnt as bad as it used to be years ago but its still pretty hit and miss but they installed my line pretty fast and i havnt had connection issues.

Surprised by how little companies offer home phone and unlimited broadband.

My speeds are: download - 4179 kbps (522kB/s) upload - 628 kbps (78.5kB/s)

 

[MilkyWay]

Do you have something to compensate for too?

 

[InnocentCriminal]

Do you have something to compensate for too?

No, but the life of an enthusiast is never satisfied, never! Greed is today's driving force.

 

[MightyMission]

bloody hell 100gb!
my supposed 8gb(avg 400k/s) is nothing short of feeble,i cant wait to move to somewhere more civilised.

 

[scaminatrix]

£33.90 a month is kinda expensive for just calls and broadband. Talktalk admittedly not the best company but certainly at least par or better than BT. I've got unlimited calls to house numbers and unlimited broadband, includes 0870 and 0845 numbers. They offer speeds fastest whatever is possible down my line. Right now offering £7.25 + £12.60 line rental for 6 months. Usually £14 + line rental which is still cheaper than BT. Apparently the talktalk customer service isnt as bad as it used to be years ago but its still pretty hit and miss but they installed my line pretty fast and i havnt had connection issues.

Surprised by how little companies offer home phone and unlimited broadband.

My speeds are: download - 4179 kbps (522kB/s) upload - 628 kbps (78.5kB/s)

Sounds like your bundle's almost the same as mine.
Unlimited calls to UK Landlines including 0870 and 0845 numbers.
Unlimited download limit
I've also got the fastest speed they can give me (no Infinity available): 10 - 19.5 Mb/s (I've had 16Mb/s so far - Orbit downloader has been downloading at 1.96MB/s so far)

I wouldn't touch Talktalk with a stolen router lol not after the problems my family have had with them... Recently aswell, only last year.

 

[MilkyWay]

Sounds like your bundle's almost the same as mine.
Unlimited calls to UK Landlines including 0870 and 0845 numbers.
Unlimited download limit
I've also got the fastest speed they can give me (no Infinity available): 10 - 19.5 Mb/s (I've had 16Mb/s so far - Orbit downloader has been downloading at 1.96MB/s so far)

I wouldn't touch Talktalk with a stolen router lol not after the problems my family have had with them... Recently aswell, only last year.

I had problems with them years ago when i went with them after i had AOL, big mistake because at the time 2 worst broadband providers.

BT have a terrible reputation, that Martin Lewis money saver guy tells everyone to avoid them but also talktalk have a terrible customer relations track record. Right now though seems like a postcode lottery because my mate who lives in another neighbourhood has slower speeds than mine sine he changed to talktalk.

I wasnt saying go with talktalk just that BT are quite expensive.

 

[InnocentCriminal]

bloody hell 100gb!
my supposed 8gb(avg 400k/s) is nothing short of feeble,i cant wait to move to somewhere more civilised.

You mean Mbit surely?

 

[MightyMission]

Yes Mb not gb,humble apologies for my typo,i was thinking of HD transfers speeds (theoretical and maximum) and the chance of saturating a sata port with data.

 

[scaminatrix]

I had problems with them years ago when i went with them after i had AOL, big mistake because at the time 2 worst broadband providers.

BT have a terrible reputation, that Martin Lewis money saver guy tells everyone to avoid them but also talktalk have a terrible customer relations track record. Right now though seems like a postcode lottery because my mate who lives in another neighbourhood has slower speeds than mine sine he changed to talktalk.

I wasnt saying go with talktalk just that BT are quite expensive.

Aah, I see. We shopped around quite a bit aswell, but everywhere seemed to be about the same price (with £1-2 of eachother). In the end, it was a toss-up between Virgin and BT. 100 free photo prints from Virgin each month is actually quite tempting for a photo-lover such as myself
But BT won in the end; for the free numbers, not having to pay by Direct Debit, and only having a 12-month contract.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Hereford(shire) freaking sucks. I've recently been downgraded from 6.5Mbit to 3 due to the fact that Hereford fuckin' sucks!

I could have told you that! Move across the border to a REAL county and in the flash of a whore's Curtains..... you will have more speed

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I had problems with them years ago when i went with them after i had AOL, big mistake because at the time 2 worst broadband providers.

BT have a terrible reputation, that Martin Lewis money saver guy tells everyone to avoid them but also talktalk have a terrible customer relations track record. Right now though seems like a postcode lottery because my mate who lives in another neighbourhood has slower speeds than mine sine he changed to talktalk.

I wasnt saying go with talktalk just that BT are quite expensive.

The problem with BT isn't speed (well it is for some) but even if the speed is good and you have "unlimited downloads" you will find in the small print they have a fair usage policy or perform traffic shaping ie: when downloading torrents etc

The best ADSL supplier is o2 imo as they do offer a truly unlimited package and their speeds and customer service are top notch.

 

[scaminatrix]

The problem with BT isn't speed (well it is for some) but even if the speed is good and you have "unlimited downloads" you will find in the small print they have a fair usage policy or perform traffic shaping ie: when downloading torrents etc

I thought all ISP's have the fair usage policy?
I also remember reading somewhere a couple of years ago that ALL ISP's "shape" (well, prioritise) the traffic. It went something like:
Skype gets most priority (time critical, I think they call it),
then video streaming,
then ftp.

There were others inbetween, but these are the ones I remember. It made me want to start looking into ways of disguising an ftp as a Skype protocol to avoid throttling/being prioritised low, if that's even possible?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I thought all ISP's have the fair usage policy?
I also remember reading somewhere a couple of years ago that ALL ISP's "shape" (well, prioritise) the traffic. It went something like:
Skype gets most priority (time critical, I think they call it),
then video streaming,
then ftp.

There were others inbetween, but these are the ones I remember. It made me want to start looking into ways of disguising an ftp as a Skype protocol to avoid throttling/being prioritised low, if that's even possible?

Thats prioritisation and I don't know if all ISP's do that, traffic shaping is what ISP's hide behind when they want to say we are going to give you 2Kb/s if you download torrents, regardless if you have 1Mb-20Mb of bandwidth available. There are ways to get round it by using proxy's, encryption etc. Though it's just a royal pita and I hate having to do stuff like that just to allow me to do something I should be able to do

 

[MilkyWay]

I don't get any traffic limiting or down speeds at peak times but i think im just lucky. Most ISP have a fair usage policy but it depends on who it is and how lenient they are, i have no idea who's better than who. You have to be an o2 customer to get the discounts to make it worth going with them but yeah if you are its a good deal.

Another massive problem i personally had is i never had a standard phone line in this house, i think ive mentioned this before but BT charge £100 or so minimum to set up a phone line. Sky where the same they wanted BT to come fit one, in the past we had to pay Sky twice for a phone line because of moving house with a gap of a year. Talktalk only charged £30.

EDIT: sounds like im bumming them up but i really did have problems with talktalk last time i had them as my provider, connection problems mostly and terrible customer services.