"Thief" Optimized for AMD Technologies

OneCool · Jun 11, 2013

You know they will claim this and watch it run better on nVidia :nutkick:

SIGSEGV · Jun 12, 2013

erocker said:
These comments amuse me. Only because, in the past you could replace the word "AMD" with "Nvidia" and it would be equally true.

At least, it's good to see these companies learning from each other.

lol. yes. so true

OneCool said:
You know they will claim this and watch it run better on nVidia

no one knows since the next upcoming games are still porting from next gen consoles. :rolleyes:

i would consider to turn back to amd on next upgrade on their next gen cards based on 20nm technology.

TRWOV · Jun 12, 2013

diopter said:
"Optimized for AMD Technologies" - a.k.a. doing nothing except making it run artificially worse on nvidia hardware after passing some cash under the table.

If that's the case they're not doing a very good job as some Gaming Evolved titles perform better on comparable nVidia hardware. Some GE titles use nVidia Physx too (I don't think nVidia would allow a TWIMTBP title to use TressFX for example).

If the optimization helps both camps shouldn't AMD do it regardless?

cdawall · Jun 12, 2013

diopter said:
"Optimized for AMD Technologies" - a.k.a. doing nothing except making it run artificially worse on nvidia hardware after passing some cash under the table.

No that's TWIMTBP that artificially hurts the other company. AMD GE is more of a marketing thing to get the name out. It's not a bad idea either since no one seems to know what AMD is in the real world. Hopefully at startup the PS4 and the ONE both pop a big gaming evolved banner at start up.

Fluffmeister · Jun 12, 2013

This is easily my fave fanboy thread of the month.

techtard · Jun 12, 2013

A new Thief game is good news, regardless of who it's optimized for.

So are the guys posting negatively just super fanboys, or are they nVidia Focus Group members? I've seen some of them posting on various enthusiast sites recently, and many have dropped their focus group sigs and lie about owning AMD, then switching to nV.

Either way, it's stupid to start fights over hardware and software. Unless you're picking on the new XBOX.

Recus · Jun 12, 2013

So, if competition doesn't matter I hope instant piracy on AMD's titles won't hurt your feelings.

Ahhzz · Jun 12, 2013

techtard said:
A new Thief game is good news, regardless of who it's optimized for.
.....
Either way, it's stupid to start fights over hardware and software. Unless you're picking on the new XBOX.

+1 to both of those

Recus said:
So, if competition doesn't matter I hope instant piracy on AMD's titles won't hurt your feelings.

....not even sure what that means, much less where it comes from.... :slap:

ste2425 · Jun 12, 2013

That's all well and good but why is the bloke in the picture wearing a corset?

Prima.Vera · Jun 12, 2013

So will this be better than Dishonored?? Also the original Thiefs were so good because they were using sound hardware acceleration like A3D or DS3D. Is this going to offer support for at least OpenAL??

Recus · Jun 12, 2013

Ahhzz said:
+1 to both of those

....not even sure what that means, much less where it comes from....

So why replaying? Feeling lonely?

Since won't be article about this I put this here. :rolleyes:

Nvidia is better because they won't play with high numbers. Repeat twice for more advanced tech.

Xzibit · Jun 12, 2013

Recus said:
http://physxinfo.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/witcher_e3.jpg

Nvidia is better because they won't play with high numbers. Repeat twice for more advanced tech.

Question: How can you say not playing with numbers and link to a slide saying "Pushing the Industry Forward"

Nvidia still doesnt fully support the latest Direct X 11.1. You'll have to wait for Maxwell if your cheering for the Green team. I guess its okay or good enough when you leave out the .1 support for two generations of your products.

/rally the green team cheering squad :rolleyes:

H82LUZ73 · Jun 12, 2013

Recus said:
So why replaying? Feeling lonely?

Since won't be article about this I put this here.

http://physxinfo.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/witcher_e3.jpg

Nvidia is better because they won't play with high numbers. Repeat twice for more advanced tech.

http://cdn3.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Ruby-AMD.jpg

Wow they are bringing that sexy redhead Ruby back ,I thought they axed her ass when AMD dropped ATI name brand.

Really guys think about that .1 in DX11.1.... Maybe AMD has the.1 coded for there cards....just saying....And yes this is what i said awhile ago about AMD holding out until the games and console catch up .......

acerace · Jun 12, 2013

So many fanboys, so little informations. Typical.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Jun 13, 2013

Can't we just all hold hands and sing Kumbayah or something?

Recus · Jun 13, 2013

Xzibit said:
Question: How can you say not playing with numbers and link to a slide saying "Pushing the Industry Forward"

Nvidia still doesnt fully support the latest Direct X 11.1. You'll have to wait for Maxwell if your cheering for the Green team. I guess its okay or good enough when you leave out the .1 support for two generations of your products.

/rally the green team cheering squad

Because "Pushing the Industry Forward" has nothing to do with numbers? And I was referring to used tech numbers.

As for DX11.1 it's nothing wrong. AMD Advocacy Group already investigated that Kepler is only gaming GPU so it's nothing wrong disable non-gaming features, right?

We did not enable four non-gaming features in Hardware in Kepler (for 11_1):

Target-Independent Rasterization (2D rendering only)
16xMSAA Rasterization (2D rendering only)
Orthogonal Line Rendering Mode
UAV in non-pixel-shader stages

Remember AMD's fake slides? Yes, they do exists. : D

DannibusX · Jun 13, 2013

I can't believe the amount of asshattery contained in one thread.

Of course games are going to be "Optomized for AMD", all of the next gen consoles will be using AMD hardware! Does it mean that games won't work on systems with nVidia hardware? No! Developers will optomized their games to work on that hardware as well. SHOCKER

It's a freaking marketing gimmick, and you all fell for it. AMD might be the greatest troll known to man, but then the amount of asshattery contained in the "nVidia fights HIV" thread was just as preposterous.

Prima.Vera · Jun 13, 2013

Agree. But have you played the last Metro game on AMD card with Physics on?? The game just cuts almost in half the fps, and I don't mean for the scenes with pshy effects. How much trolling can nVidia do???!??

DannibusX · Jun 13, 2013

Prima.Vera said:
Agree. But have you played the last Metro game on AMD card with Physics on?? The game just cuts almost in half the fps, and I don't mean for the scenes with pshy effects. How much trolling can nVidia do???!??

No, but I played the first Metro game without PhysX. I don't really care about it either, sure it's a cool effect n'all, but it's not really needed to enjoy a game.

A company is going to push features that work for their products, if nVidia wants to pay developers to use PhysX in their games, then so be it, it's their money and they can market it anyway they want to.

Prima.Vera · Jun 13, 2013

I find some PhysX effects quite enjoyable to be honest, like the ones in Mafia II, Metro LL, Borderlands 2, Timeshift, etc.

Ikaruga · Jun 14, 2013

Hope this "optimizted for AMD" thing won't turn into Deus Ex Human Revolution story on the long run, but some former Nvidia games also ran craplike on AMD cards, so .....

DannibusX said:
sure it's a cool effect n'all, but it's not really needed to enjoy a game.

I have to agree, while Physx looks really nice in some games and indeed enriches the experience (I personally kinda like it sometimes), it's still just a graphical effect, nothing more.

Fluffmeister · Jun 15, 2013

OneCool said:
You know they will claim this and watch it run better on nVidia

Apparently the XBox One E3 demos systems were in fact PC's... running Intel and nVidia hardware. :laugh:

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"Thief" Optimized for AMD Technologies

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where the hell are my stars

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