ThrottleStop how to remove Throttle flag

[BikeHelmet]

It doesn't seem to increase beyond 30w even if I set it at a much higher number. Could it be limited in the BIOS or somewhere else? I don't think I'd go higher than 35w even if I could, due to cooling limitations.

Edit: Figured it out by tinkering with values. iccMax was too low in FIVR. Played with that and got a higher wattage pull.

Also, if I do 4K video + OCCT + Heaven, I get this. Temps go up to 94C, though with a 35w pull - I think I found the cooling limit. I'll likely back it off to around 25-30w and be happy, now that I understand how it works a little bit better.

 

[unclewebb]

Are you using the FIVR - Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits feature? Before checking that box, you need to download, unzip and install the RwDrv.sys file into your ThrottleStop folder.

12.2 KB file on MEGA

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Install that and set the long power limit to 35W. If you are still limited to 30W, there is nothing else you can do. I think you are doing pretty good if you have been able to get a CPU with a 15W TDP rating to run reliably at 30W.

 

[BikeHelmet]

Yep, I am!

I am pretty happy with these settings. I don't need to roast my CPU. I want it fast but stable and not cooking itself or its voltage regulators.

Edit: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/28724922

It says CPU throttled to 92%. That happens even when I unlock higher current/wattage in ThrottleStop. I will ignore since I'm already in the 95th to 98 percentile for this CPU.

 

[Richo]

Thanks for your help and suggestions @unclewebb & @BikeHelmet. I did clear some items up in the startup and the cpu is running at least under a little less stress. I've found even after all the suggestions, that Disabling Turbo Boost at certain times has been the only way to prevent throttling during games. Some of these games which run fine still with it disabled. So this has been a very helpful thing to discover at least.

I'm thinking perhaps re-pasting will be the only solution left, or I was also considering if laptop cooling fans are worth the time/money. Thanks again for all the help.

 

[BikeHelmet]

For extended gaming sessions? Yes, probably worth having a cooler. (At least if you tend to set up in an area and game.) At the very least, less heat usually results in longer lifespan. They're not too expensive, and some act as usb hubs if you're low on ports.

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Having a bit of extra positive pressure coming into the vents, plus having additional cooling across the entire chassis should help if you tend to play for extended time periods.

I would re-paste if you haven't in a long time. I put Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste on mine. Every few degrees help!

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If you get temperatures well under control, you can then play with power limits to get a bit more power when you have heavy CPU+GPU load.

 

[Richo]

Thanks so much for the links and recommendations.

Do you recommend this cooling pad then?

I haven't pasted with thermal paste on this laptop before, but seen it has been recommended generally regarding Dell XPS's. So may give that a go. Cheers!

 

[BikeHelmet]

I recommend whatever cooling pad is cheap, has large quiet fans and adequate airflow to cover a laptop's entire body. There's no reason that slapping 2-4 $3 fans (in China) onto injection moulded plastic (< $1) equals a $60 cooling pad. That's some crazy markup. BOM is $6-15 for all these cooling pads. Go for whatever appeals to you. They're probably all equally reliable. Just make sure to prioritise large quiet fans with good airflow. I linked that one because of that, plus the USB hub. But as I said, look around and see what appeals to you.

 

[Richo]

Thanks, I managed to pick one up.

Also just to update, I took apart the Dell and found a really surprising amount of dust in and around the fans. So I think that was causing some big issues.

I also cleaned and applied the new thermal paste.

Seems to be performing much better now.

Achieved 2,900 on Cinebench20. Temperatures still get quite high during the test, but no more thermal issue showing on Throttlestop Limits. However am getting PL1 and EDP Other about half way through.

I did push the cpu offset voltage quite a bit from what it was, so would appreciate an opinion on if they look okay and safe. (Or if I can/should try fix the PL1 throttle)

Thanks so much!

 

[unclewebb]

Initially your log file shows your CPU running at the full 39.00 multiplier with no throttling. After a short amount of time, the CPU switches to the long term power limit which you have set to 56W. The CPU throttles a little and runs a little slower so it does not exceed 56W. If you want to avoid throttling you can bump this power limit up to 60W or 65W. At 65W during long term full load use, you might run into thermal throttling instead of power limit throttling. 60W might be a good compromise.

When under volting the Intel GPU, you need to under volt the iGPU Unslice equally as well. As long as your CPU is stable, your CPU under volt settings are fine.

 

[Richo]

Okay, thanks very much for all your help.

PC is definitely running a lot better than it was before. I've learnt a lot too.

Thanks for throttlestop and all the dedicated support your giving.