Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

[Kwin]

Thanks guys for all the valuable information i have a T3500 /w3680/24ram that i use with 4 x 28 inch monitors use it for trading.
Realy like the quality of these Dell T3500
So this week i bought a dell T3500 for my son
Dell T3500 , w3503,2x2ram 1333mhz for 80,00 eur
Ordered a w3680 for 88,90(tax incl)
4x2gb ram same brand and # as the one that came with the comp for 32,00 eur
Bought a 250 gb Samsung ssd for 72,00 euro
And a asus geforce gtx1060 6gb oc version for 305,00 euro
Got everything in 2 days

Some spray paint,electrical tape
Took out the old dell hard drives and bracket
Stripped the comp and cleaned it /spray painted it
Installed win10 with the old cpu an 4ram
Once done insalled the new cpu /ram
Once everything running okay i installed the asus geforce gtx1060
Also on the cooler i installed a old optiplex 80mm fan
I soldered to my case/cpu fan but only 2 wires so running full throt doing 200cfm but very loud!!!!!
But very nice temp(40c at 4.133ghz with throttlestop) i will connect the 2 other wires so it will run idle with the case fans
Will also install some rgb strips will post when completed

And the settings/benchmark

Do you guys know what to do with sata3 my score for the ssd was very low and that was because of sata3 ...... the ssd is a samsung v-nand ss860 evo

 

[TechyTed]

From what I’ve read, best way to get the SSD score up would be to add a PCIe to Sata 6gb adapter card.

 

[Kwin]

Thanks will have a look

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

Very cool T3500 build! I considered going a similar route with the Z400 build I did for my girlfriend, but she really wanted a new case...I still have the Z400 case though, and I'm in the middle of modding the case+PSU for use in a retro build...still sourcing parts, but I definitely plan on making the stock case into something more pleasing to the eye, but also wanting it to be obviously a retro PC...going to involve some mods and painting though...been awhile since I've modded an OEM case, but I use to do about one a month when I was selling PC, so I've grown fond of modded OEM cases over the years and always appreciate the work others have done on their "OEM+" builds...in short, great job and thanks for sharing...I am sure your son loves it!

 

[Retrorockit]

My thinking on SATA score is to use the RAID0 option and run 2x 120GB SSDs in striped mode for a 240GB 6GB/s drive array. The workstations support this but I haven't tested it yet.

 

[TechyTed]

Striped RAID in another good option.

I saw a Youtube video where a guy had striped SSDs in a T7500 and was getting good Crystal benchmark numbers.

 

[Caring1]

Stripped RAID in another good option.

I saw a Youtube video where a guy had stripped SSDs in a T7500 and was getting good Crystal benchmark numbers.

Is that anything like striped raid, or are they naked?

 

[UCDHIUS]

I registered just to post in this thread and I know its probably a long shot.

Does anyone know if throttle stop can overclock 4,1 Mac Pro in Windows?

I have a mac pro 4,1 dual socket tower coming (for a build project just to screw around with) and will be swapping out the CPUS for some X5680s. I know the CPUS are unlocked but the UEFI isn't at all. So is it possible to OC it with TS?

EDIT for some reason I thought they were unlocked.

 

[dorsetknob]

Welcome to TPU

As i understand it ( from posts from @unclewebb the Author) its a windows only program

 

[UCDHIUS]

As i understand it ( from posts from @unclewebb the Author) its a windows only program

I’ll be running windows 10

 

[dorsetknob]

Subject to Confirmation from @unclewebb and the Build version your going to use it will work

 

[UCDHIUS]

Subject to Confirmation from @unclewebb and the Build version your going to use it will work

If it does work, it would be AMAZING
edit

For some reason I thought the X5680 were unlocked :/ I’m I SOL?

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

Yeah, the only unlocked CPU are the W3570, W3580, W3680, and W3690...although you could still maybe use Throttlestop to maintain turbo boost clocks or something. Currently there is no known way to overclock dual CPU, except perhaps getting lucky with SetFSB or the like...but that's kind of unknown territory as far as I can tell...not many boards can use that software, and even less likely a dual CPU board would work. Of course it wouldn't hurt to try. Also...I think if you run a single CPU, one of the W series Xeons might work for some overclocking, but once you go dual CPU, you lose that option. Not sure if the W series are compatible with the Mac, though they likely are...I am sure someone else will chime in and confirm that though cause I am not positive.

 

[TechyTed]

If you are running dual X5680s...do you really need to overclock much?

I am running a single X5675 in my T5500 motherboard and have not run into any CPU bound problem yet.

If that is really an issue, probably time to look at an E5-1600 or E5-2600 based system. Some of those are unlocked and should overclock with Throttlestop.

Just my $0.02

 

[Arjai]

I bought a T3500 w/ a x5670, specifically for Crunching w/ WCG. I picked a T3500 because of this thread! I know this is a locked multiplier but, with some help I am hoping to lock the boost clocks, in Linux.

This rig, /w locked boost, will effectively rival the 3 i3 HP UltraSlim's I have Crunching now.
12 threads i3 VS. 12 threaded X5670.

The T3500 will arrive sometime next week, along with the MSI GAMING GeForce GT 710 2GB GDRR3 64-bit HDCP Support DirectX 12 OpenGL 4.5 Single Fan Low Profile Graphics Card (GT 710 2GD3 LP), I got for it on Amazon.

All together @ $241. Not bad, in my book, for a 6c/12t X5670 and a case, MB, PSU, HS and a GT 710 to run a monitor.

I am looking forward to getting this thing running!!

 

[TechyTed]

As has been said many times here

If you have non-overclockable X58 / 1366 motherboard, and want max performance, then the best bet using Throttlestop is to go with a W3680 or W3690. Thats been verified to work. The W3570 and W3580 work too, but are fewer cores, run hotter, and probably wont hit the max overclock of the W36xx chips.

Everthing else is limited in some time way and you may get turbo boost speeds on all cores, but thats about it.

Apologies to everyone else who had made this same comment...(like Aaron a couple posts ago) I am just repeating in case a new reader comes along at this point in the thread.

 

[UCDHIUS]

I’ll see if it’s possible to maintain turbo clocks that should be good enough for me.

 

[Retrorockit]

The X5687 is the fastest 2 CPU version. 4C/8T 3.6Ghz 3.86GHz turbo.

 

[BouziGolouM]

Yeah, the only unlocked CPU are the W3570, W3580, W3680, and W3690...although you could still maybe use Throttlestop to maintain turbo boost clocks or something. Currently there is no known way to overclock dual CPU, except perhaps getting lucky with SetFSB or the like...but that's kind of unknown territory as far as I can tell...not many boards can use that software, and even less likely a dual CPU board would work. Of course it wouldn't hurt to try. Also...I think if you run a single CPU, one of the W series Xeons might work for some overclocking, but once you go dual CPU, you lose that option. Not sure if the W series are compatible with the Mac, though they likely are...I am sure someone else will chime in and confirm that though cause I am not positive.

You can overclock dual CPUs... Never tried myself, but as far as I know, the EVGA SR-2 is able to oc dual 1366 cpus.

As has been said many times here

If you have non-overclockable X58 / 1366 motherboard, and want max performance, then the best bet using Throttlestop is to go with a W3680 or W3690. Thats been verified to work. The W3570 and W3580 work too, but are fewer cores, run hotter, and probably wont hit the max overclock of the W36xx chips.

Everthing else is limited in some time way and you may get turbo boost speeds on all cores, but thats about it.

Apologies to everyone else who had made this same comment...(like Aaron a couple posts ago) I am just repeating in case a new reader comes along at this point in the thread.

And well, not sure if i did something wrong, but I don't seem to see a really big difference in temps between my w3690 and my w3570. They oc to about the same multiplier and temps are about the same...

 

[Retrorockit]

There are the OEM unlocked Extreme series also. i7-980X,i7-990X, i7-975X i7-965X (45nm 4C/8T). There are some 1156 Extremes also some of which slip in at 95W making them an option for Optiplexes.

The limits for TS overclocking may be different than for aftermarket high end motherboards. If the VRM power is limiting things then 4Cx45NM might run the same as 6Cx32nm.
For many purposes the difference between 4C/8T and 6C/12T won't be of any use. An extra $60 towards a better GPU might make more difference. The 45nm are fussier about RAM speed though.

EVGA Classified SR2 willl overclock 2x dual CPU Xeons. But it requires an oversized case and possibly a special EVGA PSU to take full advantage of it. if anyone wants to try a 2 CPU overclock on an OEM system I'd love to see it.

 

[UCDHIUS]

if anyone wants to try a 2 CPU overclock on an OEM system I'd love to see it.

Once my cMP comes in I’ll slap in the x5680s I have and I’ll see if there is anything I can do to either lock in turbo boost and sync them across all cores or something.

If I can do that I’ll pick up some x5690s turbo boost clock on those are 3.73 GHz

 

[TechyTed]

And well, not sure if i did something wrong, but I don't seem to see a really big difference in temps between my w3690 and my w3570. They oc to about the same multiplier and temps are about the same...

That’s about right. Remember the W36xx series would be running two mores cores, so if the temps are the same, its actually slightly better than W35xx, all other things being equal. The difference is not likely to be very dramatic in normal usage scenarios unless you are doing multithreaded loads.

If you look at userbench results, the W3680 seems to be the winner in the T3500 when it comes to over all Ghz limit. Even then, not all W3680s will peak at the same top frequency.

Retrorockets comment on power delivery is also another important factor.

 

[Retrorockit]

X5687 has a turbo of 3.86 and is a 32nm 4C/8T 2x CPU chip.
https://ark.intel.com/products/5257...r-X5687-12M-Cache-3_60-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI
It seems to be flying under the radar so far for overclocking.
It does make a pretty good showing at HWBOT.
https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_x5687/

 

[BouziGolouM]

That’s about right. Remember the W36xx series would be running two mores cores, so if the temps are the same, its actually slightly better than W35xx, all other things being equal. The difference is not likely to be very dramatic in normal usage scenarios unless you are doing multithreaded loads.

If you look at userbench results, the W3680 seems to be the winner in the T3500 when it comes to over all Ghz limit. Even then, not all W3680s will peak at the same top frequency.

Retrorockets comment on power delivery is also another important factor.

Ill see how truly it's a winner once I receive my aftermarket board I bought to match with my spare W chip

 

[Arjai]

I bought a T3500 w/ a x5670, specifically for Crunching w/ WCG. I picked a T3500 because of this thread! I know this is a locked multiplier but, with some help I am hoping to lock the boost clocks, in Linux.

This rig, /w locked boost, will effectively rival the 3 i3 HP UltraSlim's I have Crunching now.
12 threads i3 VS. 12 threaded X5670.

The T3500 will arrive sometime next week, along with the MSI GAMING GeForce GT 710 2GB GDRR3 64-bit HDCP Support DirectX 12 OpenGL 4.5 Single Fan Low Profile Graphics Card (GT 710 2GD3 LP), I got for it on Amazon.

All together @ $241. Not bad, in my book, for a 6c/12t X5670 and a case, MB, PSU, HS and a GT 710 to run a monitor.

I am looking forward to getting this thing running!!

Edit, Forgot to add, getting 8GB (2x4) with this deal.
https://www.stalliontek.com/refurbished-dell-precision-t3500-workstation-build-to-order?