TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Trekkie4 · May 1, 2019

Apocalypsee said:
Odd, it supposed to write RV350 for 9600Pro. But I'm not surprised, my 9550 clocked to 9600Pro core clock successfully from lowly 250MHz to 400MHz no problem. The TSOP memory on the other hand don't clock as fast as BGA counterparts and hamper these card performance as compared to XT counterparts.

I bought a X800XT PE but its full of artifacts even in BIOS, I don't know whether to fix it or not. It could be a simple reballing or it could be much worse. Your thoughts?

If the question was aimed at me, I wouldn't know... You could try re-flowing the card, cooking it in the oven or something but without professional SMD gear, along with very steady hand & good sight, there's only so much you can do *shrug*

Bones · May 1, 2019

Trekkie4 said:
I also fixed my Radeon 9600Pro... This one was kinda tricky, and I actually went through several different attempts, before I settled for this one, here. On a side note, I've only just noticed that the GPU reads Radeon "9550", and not "9600", even though this is most definitely a 9600Pro model.

Oddly enough this looks like the GPU chip in a PS3.

Trekkie4 · May 1, 2019

Bones said:
Oddly enough this looks like the GPU chip in a PS3.

I wouldn't know about that, but the GPU design is just awful. Placing those small SMD capacitors right next to the GPU was a pretty stupid idea, because there's a high risk of shorting the terminals with aluminum heatsink.

Which is why they put some kind of heat-resisting tape around it, to cover them up, and then sandwiched everything with the actual heatsink. Unfortunately, damn thing got damaged when I removed it, so really - the only way around it was to find something else...

Edit
This is what the card looked like, when it was still original

Apocalypsee · May 1, 2019

Trekkie4 said:
If the question was aimed at me, I wouldn't know... You could try re-flowing the card, cooking it in the oven or something but without professional SMD gear, along with very steady hand & good sight, there's only so much you can do *shrug*

Im going to send it to professionals with proper tools and stations. I'll try to contact them. They live nearby. If possible I send it this weekend. The only thing I need to buy is old 5:4 monitor to complete my retro PC. Widescreen feels odd on old games that dont support it natively.

Oh you have the 256MB version hence the TSOP memory package. The 128MB have BGA memory. I used to have Powercolor 9600XT Bravo edition. Thinking about it, I cant remember what happened to it. Is it still in the attic somewhere?

lexluthermiester · May 2, 2019

Trekkie4 said:
You could try re-flowing the card, cooking it in the oven or something but without professional SMD gear

I think that's what he meant by re-balling it. Seems likely anyway. Could be wrong..

Splinterdog · May 2, 2019

Just for kicks, I found a 3DFX Voodoo 4, a 20 year old 10Gb HDD and a Pentium II 233 with an Intel AL440LX lying around.
All I need now is a case.

Trekkie4 · May 2, 2019

Splinterdog said:
Just for kicks, I found a 3DFX Voodoo 4, a 20 year old 10Gb HDD and a Pentium II 233 with an Intel AL440LX lying around.
All I need now is a case.
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That's great, but would you mind if I ask you - why XP?! That Pentium II (not to mention the Voodoo card) would be SO much happier with Windows 98, Second Edition! (the one from the pic)

Splinterdog · May 2, 2019

Trekkie4 said:
That's great, but would you mind if I ask you - why XP?! That Pentium II (not to mention the Voodoo card) would be SO much happier with Windows 98, Second Edition! (the one from the pic)

I felt like a change. Besides, the Voodoo is on its way out unfortunately, so I'll have to use whatever Geforce cards I have.
As I said earlier, it's really just for kicks and to see how far I can push a Pentium II in XP.

Trekkie4 · May 2, 2019

Splinterdog said:
I felt like a change. Besides, the Voodoo is on its way out unfortunately, so I'll have to use whatever Geforce cards I have.
As I said earlier, it's really just for kicks and to see how far I can push a Pentium II in XP.

Right, I understand.

It'll work, I'm not saying that it won't... In fact, I used to have XP on my Pentium II, 350 around 2003, 2004. But the poor thing will probably work at 100% all the time, having a tough time with even the basic operations, which is why I recommended 98.

Splinterdog · May 2, 2019

I'll report back with my findings once I've got some games installed. I mean, I'm not doing this for word processing

Athlonite · May 3, 2019

Apocalypsee said:
Im going to send it to professionals with proper tools and stations. I'll try to contact them. They live nearby. If possible I send it this weekend. The only thing I need to buy is old 5:4 monitor to complete my retro PC. Widescreen feels odd on old games that dont support it natively.

Oh you have the 256MB version hence the TSOP memory package. The 128MB have BGA memory. I used to have Powercolor 9600XT Bravo edition. Thinking about it, I cant remember what happened to it. Is it still in the attic somewhere?

It's a shame your not closer to me I have an MAG Innovision 17" Flat CRT that does 1024x768x32bit @100Hz just sitting here gathering dust

Apocalypsee · May 3, 2019

Athlonite said:
It's a shame your not closer to me I have an MAG Innovision 17" Flat CRT that does 1024x768x32bit @100Hz just sitting here gathering dust

Indeed a damn shame, would love to have that monitor. I thinking of nice high refresh CRT but local used market is only full of 15 inchers which is too small for my liking.

Splinterdog · May 3, 2019

I've also just found a Lucky Star (?) 6ABX2V V1.2 motherboard with a Pentium II 350, which might have a bit more oomph than the Intel 440LX board.
I'll fire it up tomorrow and see what happens.

Trekkie4 · May 3, 2019

Splinterdog said:
I've also just found a Lucky Star (?) 6ABX2V V1.2 motherboard with a Pentium II 350, which might have a bit more oomph than the Intel 440LX board.
I'll fire it up tomorrow and see what happens.
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Yes, if you're going with XP, I would highly recommend that you switch to 350 Deschutes model. It will give you more "oomph", as you said to handle everything, especially the gaming

Funny how Slot-1 keeps being mentioned over & over... I'm still thinking about mine, latest system from the previous page. I got the system right here, but I still haven't decided what to do with it... I was thinking of adding a Matrox Millennium AGP card & swapping out the sound card for something more chronologically accurate, but then again I already got plenty of Pentiums II... 5 of them to be exact, along with one Klamath, running at 266MHz

Splinterdog · May 3, 2019

I've still got a Crystal Sound ISA sound card which would fit nicely in this Lucky Star, since it has no on board sound. I'm pretty sure I've got the drivers somewhere as well.
Yes, I'll give XP a shot on this PII 350 and start playing around.

Trekkie4 · May 3, 2019

Splinterdog said:
I've still got a Crystal Sound ISA sound card which would fit nicely in this Lucky Star, since it has no on board sound. I'm pretty sure I've got the drivers somewhere as well.
Yes, I'll give XP a shot on this PII 350 and start playing around.

I realize that from today's perspective upgrading from 233MHz processor to a 350MHz one seems like a minor step, but try to look at the bigger picture - by upgrading to 350 model, you will get "extra" 117MHz over the 233model. Which is essentially 1/3 of the entire processor.

From a modern perspective (a modern CPU running at 3,00GHz), this would be a major upgrade, of approx. 1GHz clock speed

Deleted member 24505 · May 3, 2019

Quickie, is this worth £20?

dorsetknob · May 3, 2019

Some will say yes some gonna say hell no
me i say let me get my wallet

Deleted member 24505 · May 3, 2019

dorsetknob said:
Some will say yes some gonna say hell no
me i say let me get my wallet

I've messaged the guy, still has it, will pop for a look tomorrow. Also just read the review of it, boy was it a beast of a card on release.

DR4G00N · May 3, 2019

tigger said:
Quickie, is this worth £20?

Eh, why not? It's a decent price. Plus 4850 X2's are not too common.

Athlonite · May 3, 2019

Is it worth 20 quid ? hell yes if it's working you don't see many x2 cards up for sale these days

Dinnercore · May 3, 2019

tigger said:
Quickie, is this worth £20?

I personally wouldn´t think twice, but I love mGPU cards. I´d even take it for 50 tbh, but 20 is a good price.

Mine was offered for free even, but I paid the guy who wanted to get rid of it

GreiverBlade · May 3, 2019

Athlonite said:
Is it worth 20 quid ? hell yes if it's working you don't see many x2 cards up for sale these days

which is why i was happy when i got my 9800GX2 ... albeit untested ... for the price i paid, it was a good deal even not working ahah.

Mr.Scott · May 3, 2019

tigger said:
Quickie, is this worth £20?

F*** yeah

Deleted member 24505 · May 3, 2019

Dinnercore said:
I personally wouldn´t think twice, but I love mGPU cards. I´d even take it for 50 tbh, but 20 is a good price.

Mine was offered for free even, but I paid the guy who wanted to get rid of it

That looks good with them coolers on.

System Name	Adison "Open Space" 19
Processor	Intel Pentium II, 350MHz
Motherboard	Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1
Cooling	SECC Cartridge
Memory	1x 64MB, PC100
Video Card(s)	ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB
Storage	BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB
Display(s)	LG StudioWorks 57M
Case	Adison Midi Tower, ATX
Audio Device(s)	Creative SoundBlaster 128
Power Supply	Codegen 300W
Mouse	Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Keyboard	Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Software	Microsoft Windows 98

Processor	Ryzen 2600
Motherboard	X470 Tachi Ultimate
Cooling	AM3+ Wraith CPU cooler
Memory	C.R.S.
Video Card(s)	GTX 970
Software	Linux Peppermint 10
Benchmark Scores	Never high enough

System Name	Adison "Open Space" 19
Processor	Intel Pentium II, 350MHz
Motherboard	Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1
Cooling	SECC Cartridge
Memory	1x 64MB, PC100
Video Card(s)	ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB
Storage	BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB
Display(s)	LG StudioWorks 57M
Case	Adison Midi Tower, ATX
Audio Device(s)	Creative SoundBlaster 128
Power Supply	Codegen 300W
Mouse	Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Keyboard	Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Software	Microsoft Windows 98

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard	ASUS A520M-K
Cooling	Scythe Kotetsu Mark II
Memory	2 x 16GB SK Hynix CJR OEM DDR4-3200 @ 4000 20-22-20-48
Video Card(s)	Colorful RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6
Storage	250GB WD BLACK SN750 M.2 + 4TB WD Red Plus + 4TB WD Purple
Display(s)	AOpen 27HC5R 27" 1080p 165Hz curved VA
Case	AIGO Darkflash C285
Audio Device(s)	Creative SoundBlaster Z + Kurtzweil KS-40A bookshelf / Sennheiser HD555
Power Supply	Great Wall GW-EPS1000DA 1kW
Mouse	Razer Deathadder Essential
Keyboard	Cougar Attack2 Cherry MX Black
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2

System Name	Ryzen Monster
Processor	Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VII WiFi
Cooling	Corsair H100i RGB Platinum
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4x8GB) 3200Mhz CMW16GX4M2C3200C16
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix RX5700XT OC 8Gb
Storage	WD Black 500GB NVMe 250Gb Samsung SSD, OCZ 500Gb SSD WD M.2 500Gb, plus three spinners up to 1.5Tb
Display(s)	LG 32GK650F-B 32" UltraGear™ QHD
Case	Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Audio Device(s)	Supreme FX on board
Power Supply	Corsair RM850X full modular
Mouse	Corsair Ironclaw wireless
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Headphones Logitech G533 wireless
Software	Windows 11 Start 11
Benchmark Scores	3DMark Time Spy 4532 (9258 March 2021, 9399 July 2021)

TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Trekkie4

Bones

Trekkie4

Apocalypsee

lexluthermiester

Splinterdog

Trekkie4

Splinterdog

Trekkie4

Splinterdog

Athlonite

Apocalypsee

Splinterdog

Trekkie4

Splinterdog

Trekkie4

Deleted member 24505

Guest

dorsetknob

"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"

Deleted member 24505

Guest

DR4G00N

Athlonite

Dinnercore

GreiverBlade

Mr.Scott

Deleted member 24505

Guest

System Name	Cumquat 2021
Processor	AMD RyZen R7 7800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Strix X670E - E Gaming WIFI
Cooling	Deep Cool LT720 + CM MasterGel Pro TP + Lian Li Uni Fan V2
Memory	32GB GSkill Trident Z5 Neo 6000
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ OC RX6800 16GB DDR6 2270Cclk / 2010Mclk
Storage	1x Adata SX8200PRO NVMe 1TB gen3 x4 1X Samsung 980 Pro NVMe Gen 4 x4 1TB, 12TB of HDD Storage
Display(s)	AOC 24G2 IPS 144Hz FreeSync Premium 1920x1080p
Case	Lian Li O11D XL ROG edition
Audio Device(s)	RX6800 via HDMI + Pioneer VSX-531 amp Technics 100W 5.1 Speaker set
Power Supply	EVGA 1000W G5 Gold
Mouse	Logitech G502 Proteus Core Wired
Keyboard	Logitech G915 Wireless
Software	Windows 11 X64 PRO (build 23H2)
Benchmark Scores	it sucks even more less now ;)

Processor	Ryzen 5 5600 @ 4.65GHz CO -30
Motherboard	AsRock X370 Taichi
Cooling	Asus ROG Strix LC 240
Memory	32GB 4x8 G.SKILL Trident Z 3200 CL14 1.35V
Video Card(s)	PCWINMAX RTX 3060 6GB Laptop GPU (80W)
Storage	1TB Kingston NV2
Display(s)	LG 25UM57-P @ 75Hz OC
Case	Fractal Design Arc XL
Audio Device(s)	ATH-M20x
Power Supply	Evga SuperNova 1300 G2
Mouse	Evga Torq X3
Keyboard	Thermaltake Challenger
Software	Win 11 Pro 64-Bit

System Name	FATTYDOVE-R-SPEC
Processor	Intel i9 10980XE
Motherboard	EVGA X299 Dark
Cooling	Water (1x 240mm, 1x 280mm, 1x 420mm + 2x Mo-Ra 360 external radiator)
Memory	64GB DDR4
Video Card(s)	RTX 2080 Super / RTX 3090
Storage	Crucial MX500
Display(s)	24", 1440p, freesync, 144hz
Case	Open Benchtable (OBT)
Audio Device(s)	beyerdynamic MMX 300
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova T2 1600W
Mouse	OG steelseries Sensei
Keyboard	steelseries 6Gv2
Software	Windows 10

System Name	main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally
Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling	Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory	64gb DDR4 3600/8gb DDR3 1600/2gbLPDDR3/8gbLPDDR5x/16gb(10 sys)LPDDR5 6400
Video Card(s)	Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/Radeon 780M 6gb LPDDR5
Storage	250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/4tb SN850X
Display(s)	X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/7" FHD 120hz
Case	Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s)	Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Moondrop Chu II + TRN BT20S
Power Supply	Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse	Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard	Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD	Medion Erazer
Software	Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores	bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o

System Name	Master
Processor	Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3
Motherboard	SR-2 Classified
Memory	12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX680
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 750