TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[GreiverBlade]

What about disabling CPU fan speed monitoring, under "Power" options, in BIOS? I've had several situations like that, where the CPU fan was rotating too slow for sensor to be registered & kept throwing errors. The only way around it was to disable the fan monitoring in BIOS.

oh it was years ago ... i overcame that with time ... (it was around my K6-2 build and followed me like a plague int the K6-III and Athlon XP era )

should have wrote : "at the time i never found how to bypass that error"

 

[Trekkie4]

Ah, got it

In fact, now that I think about it, I have the same problem on one of my Dell GX110 machines. BIOS was expecting a fan to report upon boot, but it wasn't reading anything since I'm not using one (Passively-cooled Slot-1 CPU). So, the only way to properly boot GX110 was to disable the sensor in BIOS, because it kept sounding alarms & sending error messages during each & every POST.

 

[Dinnercore]

What about disabling CPU fan speed monitoring, under "Power" options, in BIOS? I've had several situations like that, where the CPU fan was rotating too slow for sensor to be registered & kept throwing errors. The only way around it was to disable the fan monitoring in BIOS.

Good idea, but didn´t work for my temp issue. I disabled the overheat protection which was set to 90°C in bios but disabling it did absolutly nothing. Well, atleast everything else is working.

 

[Trekkie4]

Good idea, but didn´t work for my temp issue. I disabled the overheat protection which was set to 90°C in bios but disabling it did absolutly nothing. Well, atleast everything else is working.

You mentioned having FAN error, nothing about overheating... Those are two different settings, there's one for thermal protection (and throttling, IF the system is modern enough to support this feature) and then there's another option to either monitor or to ignore fan speed. When set to "ignore", it won't report any issues with the CPU fan, even if it doesn't work at all. Under the normal circumstances, turning this feature off is asking for trouble, but since there is obviously something wrong with your motherboard, it would probably work in your favor.

 

[GreiverBlade]

You mentioned having FAN error, nothing about overheating... Those are two different settings, there's one for thermal protection (and throttling, IF the system is modern enough to support this feature) and then there's another option to either monitor or to ignore fan speed. When set to "ignore", it won't report any issues with the CPU fan, even if it doesn't work at all. Under the normal circumstances, turning this feature off is asking for trouble, but since there is obviously something wrong with the motherboard, it would probably work in your favor.

no i mentioned having a fan error (he's stalking me it's atrocious ) Dinnercore mentioned overhearing ..... the fan? oh wait nope ... overheating

 

[Trekkie4]

Oh... You're absolutely correct, my mistake! (Had to go back & double-check all the quotes to see who's talking to who lol)

Nvm then, regarding @Dinnercore , his mobo is most likely damaged or having some sort of weird issue with the BIOS.

 

[lexluthermiester]

South Bridge overheat warning!

Get into the bios and clear that warning in the bios messages screen. Find and attach a heatsink to that southbridge chip. That problem should end. Some errors will continue to trigger an alert with each boot up until cleared by the user.

 

[Dinnercore]

Get into the bios and clear that warning in the bios messages screen. Find and attach a heatsink to that southbridge chip. That problem should end. Some errors will continue to trigger an alert with each boot up until cleared by the user.

Thanks for the reply, there already is a heatsink attached by default. I even put new paste on it and the sensor never reports a high temp when I look at it in bios or OS. I did enter bios and tried to clear it, even disabled the OTP feature entirely for the SB.
Still the warning gets triggered as the very first thing during POST. I can´t even enter bios without pressing F1 first. My theory right now is that the aged sensor reports some implausible value during start-up, which in return triggers the OTP.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for the reply, there already is a heatsink attached by default. I even put new paste on it and the sensor never reports a high temp when I look at it in bios or OS. I did enter bios and tried to clear it, even disabled the OTP feature entirely for the SB.
Still the warning gets triggered as the very first thing during POST. I can´t even enter bios without pressing F1 first. My theory right now is that the aged sensor reports some implausible value during start-up, which in return triggers the OTP.

In that case, and I hate giving bad news, but that may be an indication of your board going bad and this situation is a symptom of it being on the brink... On the other hand it could just be a bad sensor. In your case I think it will just take time..

 

[Dinnercore]

In that case, and I hate giving bad news, but that may be an indication of your board going bad and this situation is a symptom of it being on the brink... On the other hand it could just be a bad sensor. In your case I think it will just take time..

Thanks for the heads up, I´ll see how long it takes. I won´t loose much if it finally decides to go. That board was wonky to begin with, I received it with bend pins in the socket too, but was able to fix those myself.

 

[Robert B]

@Dinnercore - When all fails, take it apart and give it a good clean with IPA 99% or even a good scrub with mild hot water and dishsoap followed by a IPA 99% wash. This is a last resort measure. Sometimes I got lucky this way. You never know how or in what environment it was used. I'm sure that this is child's play for you as I've seen your thread and what you are capable of. Use an air compressor or leave it to dry by itself and see how that goes. You have nothing to lose.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for the heads up, I´ll see how long it takes. I won´t loose much if it finally decides to go. That board was wonky to begin with, I received it with bend pins in the socket too, but was able to fix those myself.

Oh, so it was a freeby? Fair enough.

@Dinnercore - When all fails, take it apart and give it a good clean with IPA 99% or even a good scrub with mild hot water and dishsoap followed by a IPA 99% wash. This is a last resort measure. Sometimes I got lucky this way. You never know how or in what environment it was used. I'm sure that this is child's play for you as I've seen your thread and what you are capable of. Use an air compressor or leave it to dry by itself and see how that goes. You have nothing to lose.

This couldn't hurt. A bit of deoxit on the contacts might help to.

 

[SniperHF]

CPUs I currently Don't have a motherboard for

Top Left: Celeron 466mhz (No idea where I got this one)
Top Mid: Athlon 64 3500+ S939 - I used this till I upgraded it to a 4000+ I remember thinking the 4000+ to feel a lot faster at the time.
Top Right: E8400 - Used this one daily, don't remember which stepping it is. Wasn't a great OCer but 4.1ghz isn't too bad.

Middle left: Sempron 2400+ (no idea where I got this one)
Middle Middle: Athlon XP 1800+ (Bought in one of those ever present K7S5A bundles)
Middle Right: Duron 1600 (no idea where I got this one)

Bottom Left and Middle: My dual PIII Coppermine 1ghz CPUs from my old server, if you played Ravenshield you might have played on these . Unfortunately the Tyan Tiger 230 that housed them croaked out and I no longer have it.

Bottom Right: Coppermine 128 Celeron 1ghz - Pulled from an eMachines tower.

 

[Robert B]

Rainy day at the Flea Market! - What a great way to get low prices!

One Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA - One cap is swollen. No biggie. Eventually I'll replace all the caps if necessary. For now I'll use a Phenom II X4 CPU, 2GB DDR2-800 AData Vitesta and see if it works or not. AM2 + AGP 8x = LOVE. The Sempron SDA3000IAA3CN is nothing to write home about ...

Two WD VR 150GB SATA 2010/2011 - All in good working condition.

Less than 10 EUROS for the lot. WIN! WIN! WIN!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Rainy day at the Flea Market! - What a great way to get low prices!

One Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA - One cap is swollen. No biggie. Eventually I'll replace all the caps if necessary. For now I'll use a Phenom II X4 CPU, 2GB DDR2-800 AData Vitesta and see if it works or not. AM2 + AGP 8x = LOVE. The Sempron SDA3000IAA3CN is nothing to write home about ...

Two WD VR 150GB SATA 2010/2011 - All in good working condition.

Less than 10 EUROS for the lot. WIN! WIN! WIN!

That's a steal of the deal! And Raptors!

 

[Robert B]

The Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA - has some limitations but overall it can be a potent contender for a Win XP/AGP setup.

ASRock AM2NF3-VSTA / ALiveDual-eSATA2 Note

ASRock > AM2NF3-VSTA

Support for Socket AM2+ / AM2 processors: AMD Phenom™ FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core / Athlon X2 Dual-Core / Athlon 64 / Sempron processor; NVIDIA nForce3 250 Chipset; Hyper-Transport Technology, AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology; Supports Dual Channel DDR2 1066/800/667/533 (4 x...

www.asrock.com

Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA \ VOGONS

www.vogons.org

Project: The Ultimate AGP System (PC-A05FNB/HD3850)

Are you thinking this is an AGP video card with a Lian Li case work log? You are damn right, and it is going to be Ultimate. What so special about this work log? Since this will be my last casemod project before I go back to school and travel. I will put all my modding ideas I have on this...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

The Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA - has some limitations but overall it can be a potent contender for a Win XP/AGP setup.

ASRock AM2NF3-VSTA / ALiveDual-eSATA2 Note

ASRock > AM2NF3-VSTA

Support for Socket AM2+ / AM2 processors: AMD Phenom™ FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core / Athlon X2 Dual-Core / Athlon 64 / Sempron processor; NVIDIA nForce3 250 Chipset; Hyper-Transport Technology, AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology; Supports Dual Channel DDR2 1066/800/667/533 (4 x...

www.asrock.com

Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA \ VOGONS

www.vogons.org

Oh yeah. It'd be great for that! Especially with an X4. Though if you're actually going to build it out, go with 3GB(1GBx2+512MBx2) of ram if you have it. The extra GB of ram will make a difference in many games that run on XP.

 

[Mr.Scott]

I have 3 of them.
Fantastic AGP benching board. All problems with the board can be remedied by modded bios and a few simple volt mods.
Link to my site for the volt mods.

AM2NF3-VSTA Vdimm and Vcore mods | Warp9-systems

Vdimm mod. Vcore mod. The VDimm mod is on the left. You can also see the Vcore voltmod over on the right just remove the Zero ohm resistor in tha

warp9-systems.proboards.com

 

[Grog6]

All the problems I've ever had with older hardware were capacitor issues.

I've bought tons of caps from digikey over the years, and in every case was rewarded with a newly stable piece of working hardware.

The capacitor plague was way worse than imagined. Of Course, caps are only rated for 1000 hours in most cases; how many of us are still below that on ANY of our hardware?

My newest mobo is approaching 2500 hours of ontime; the i7-920 in the TV PC is approaching 3400 hours.
They're on 24/7, unless they crash.

The K6-III/450 in the basement; jeez...
It's been taking data since 2004, and is battery backed and will auto-reboot on a system crash, due to a watchdog card.
That's 4500 hours; I guess I should look at its caps, lol.
It's running DOS, under Win95, lol.

 

[SniperHF]

Are old manuals interesting?
I dunno but these are the ones I have laying around.

Wish I had the DUAL VSTA board, but I built that one for someone else.

 

[agent_x007]

775Dual-VSTA ?

 

[SniperHF]

775Dual-VSTA ?

In typical old school ASRock fashion it had both AGP and PCIe, and DDR and DDR2 support for the 775 socket. Old ASRock boards are neat

 

[Trekkie4]

I also remember having Epox EP-3PTA manual somewhere, probably inside one of the boxes

 

[Robert B]

Another EPIC flea market day. 2day!

ASUS P4P800 Deluxe Rev. 1.02 - i865PE
ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Rev. 2.00 - i875P
Intel stock coolers
PII 333 - SL2TV
PIII 800/133 - SL4CD
Athlon XP 2600+ AXDA2600KV4D - week 47 2003 - AQZFA 0347 TPMW - No ideea if it is unlocked or not.
P4 3GHz HT - SL7PM

12 EUROS for the lot. WIN! WIN! WIN!

The motherboards came without CPUs but with the stock coolers mounted. Sneaky seller ... You live and learn. For the price I paid I have no regrets howsoever.

The P4C800 has a couple cosmetic issues with two SATA ports and one IDE port but otherwise all the parts are in great shape. The caps still look good and are from reputable brands, at least the critical ones.

I kept reading about these ASUS P4P800 / P4C800 boards so I had to get me some of those too. These were exactly what I was missing, next to 40 other mainboards and hundreds of other parts ...

All will be restored to their former glory. Finding older 486/Pentium parts has been increasingly difficult the last few months so these components that are approaching the age of 15-20 years old are beginning to trickle in my collection. I still consider PCI-E too new for me. AGP is my limit for now. Also, the increased rate at which electronic components are being recycled made me look at some bits that otherwise meant nothing to me. I never had a P4 back in the day as I was an AMD Athlon XP guy.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Those P4 boards are getting harder to find these days.
P4C800 boards were the best overclocking P4 boards ever. Highly desirable.
Your 2600+ will be locked. 0339 is the cutoff date.