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Believe me, nothing can touch RGB scart & zero input latency on a CRT.

OG XBOX looks crisp ASF and the colours pop.
I use RGB SCART as well, but with an upscaler/converter that puts out HDMI to my monitor.
 
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I guess that scaling and the aspect ratio are the main problems why old consoles look like crap on modern TVs..?
That's basically it.
The ability of older consoles in resolution isn't that good vs the amount a new HDTV can have and it reveals just how limited they are in comparison. If the console can't make the resolution as fine or close to it as a new TV can you'll see all the details start to blend with others creating a real mess on the screen. The pic basically becomes a huge graphical "Blob" with little definition to distinguish one thing from another, it all just bleeds over and clumps together.

You could almost compare it to using a microscope to take a really close look at things - The jagged edges of an image you woudn't see on an older set appears readily with a newer TV due to it's higher resolution.
 
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Which is very sad, Duck Hunt is one of my favs... I was really good at it too.

Yes. Infrared doesnt reflect on flat screens which are made of plastic but im curious about the older flat plasma with glass screen.
 

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Bad news, something about the mounting hardware for the Scythe heatsink caused a short killing the XFX LGA775 nForce motherboard in the VRM section. There was faint smoke, and the nasty smell of something burned. Happened towards the end of last week, I moved the whole system to another room because of the smell. I haven't checked up on it since, hopefully the Q9400, and 8 GBs of DDR2 1066 Gskill sticks survived.

The cooler it came with was bugging me cause of the constant 2930 RPM. I tried swapping over the Scythe in hopes the 4-pin fan header might make a difference for regulating the noise from the fan.
 
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Yes. Infrared doesnt reflect on flat screens which are made of plastic but im curious about the older flat plasma with glass screen.
It had nothing to do with IR. It was a single frame scanline sync issue. Flatpanel TV's don't work Like CRT's at all. There is no vBlank interrupt for the Light gun to sync to like there is on CRT's.

Bad news, something about the mounting hardware for the Scythe heatsink caused a short killing the XFX LGA775 nForce motherboard in the VRM section. There was faint smoke, and the nasty smell of something burned. Happened towards the end of last week, I moved the whole system to another room because of the smell. I haven't checked up on it since, hopefully the Q9400, and 8 GBs of DDR2 1066 Gskill sticks survived.

The cooler it came with was bugging me cause of the constant 2930 RPM. I tried swapping over the Scythe in hopes the 4-pin fan header might make a difference for regulating the noise from the fan.
Find the right VRM's and you might be able to fix it. What do you have to loose?
 

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Installed my fav soundcard since this temporary set has PCI slots. I just love the sound of this.

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Installed my fav soundcard since this temporary set has PCI slots. I just love the sound of this.

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Only in games, same as Live 5.1 but for music and movies the card sucks ass.... On other hands the X-Fi series sounds amazing in all, not only games.
 

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Only in games, same as Live 5.1 but for music and movies the card sucks ass.... On other hands the X-Fi series sounds amazing in all, not only games.
Much better sound quality in music than the Live! series had.

I have a SBZ but I removed it and put this A2ZS because I just love this.
 
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Only in games, same as Live 5.1 but for music and movies the card sucks ass.... On other hands the X-Fi series sounds amazing in all, not only games.
I own the Audigy 2 with the front panel expansion bay, it sounds good on all, it can be customized quite a lot too.
 
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I dont see it that way, the Audigy and Live 5.1 both sound great in games, but using the Audigy in movies and music did not sound much differend then integrated audio cards from VIA or C media... Now the X-Fi is whole other story the chip sounds veryu very good in everything, cant say that for the Audigy cards, and i have both Audigy 1, and Audigy 2 ZS i am not impressed at all outside of Gaming, so is why i use X-Fi Xtreme Music on my main old system....
 

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Well, our hearing is unique. I just like the sound of A2 ZS, I can't describe that. :D
 
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I'm pretty sure Audigy 2 ZS = X-Fi Xtreme Music (SB0460), at least from analog audio point of view (DACs/Caps, etc.)...
 
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Prob it is, but the X-Fi chip is game changer is one of the best modern chips from what i can tell. But there is other ones that also sound very good like Onkyo Wavio 300pcie, the old Auzentech cards was also better then creative builded ones cuz of the better components they used...

BTW it is known TSeng cards are the best and fastest in DOS, but how are ATi carda for DOS i think they should be good too.. I have OAK Tachonolgy card they seems to be mid good.
 
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I'm pretty sure Audigy 2 ZS = X-Fi Xtreme Music (SB0460), at least from analog audio point of view (DACs/Caps, etc.)...
Not true, the processor is different and the way the audio is rendered is very different. The audio transmission lines are likely similar though.
 
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I did add "from analog point of view at least".
 
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I use this combo with the Audigy 2.


 
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nstalled my fav soundcard since this temporary set has PCI slots. I just love the sound of this.
Speaking of soundcards, has anyone known there was SoundBlaster compatibility in the integrated VIA older Southbridge chipsets?

 
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Well, our hearing is unique. I just like the sound of A2 ZS, I can't describe that. :D

Thats true! A fact to prove it using my personnal experience. While I was working in the real cold of Quebec north I got otitis in both ears. So infected that it damaged permanently the inside of my ears. Now one side I have difficulty with high notes and the other one is with the low ones. So whenever people start on a rant about how I should change my audio setup I just let them talk and I'm like Meh! Maybe who knows I cant judge. :)
 
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last picks for 20 euro...

The drives are dead all are 1-2GB, is really a surprise the maxtor 1GB is alive and no even bad sectors... Sadly the cool looking SeaGate Medalist is dead too, i am impressed how that drive look, first time i saw it i did think is some new drive made in 2015++....
The mobo is very dead, did not even try to start it, cuz when there was even power in shut down state there was some sparks and magic smoke, is some shitty Chaintech mobo.. The Aliance PCI card is also dead broken pins..

Now the good stuff

Everyone can see the Voodoo II, but what u cant see is a 8MB version sadly (is ezz to mod them to be 12MB but that card is not in pristine condition so no point for me, will just sell/ trade it)
The Rendition Verite card is very good to have, as they are the only real competitor (quality wise one) to the 3Dfx cards, but they did bankrupt very fast sadly.
The VLB cards are also good for selling/ trade, as i like only good mdoels like ASUS VLB S3 cards or other, ATi VLB too, but not these ones..



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But when i think about Rendition is sad they did die so fast, as they did have promising cards....
 
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