TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Durvelle27 · Jan 19, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
Yes it is. Not universal, but great for most things.

GooGone? Wonderful stuff for cleaning electronics.

I'll try that

xu^ · Jan 19, 2021

My "ahem" spare mighty GeForce 2 MX400 32mb pci :laugh:

bobbybluz · Jan 19, 2021

80-watt Hamster said:
Sounds like time for sandpaper, a Dremel and some polishing bits.

A Dremel with the small wire brush attachment works well. Keep the speed low or the wire will fly out of it. Wipe the surface with 90% rubbing alcohol afterward.

biffzinker · Jan 19, 2021

Durvelle27 said:
I'm not even sure what the crap is on it. Doesn't look like normal time and it's very hard.

Could it be this from Arctic Silver? Why someone would of put it on a CPU is a hole another question.

Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive

www.arcticsilver.com

Edit: They even warn against using it for CPU application. A warning is not going to stop someone though.

Ruru · Jan 20, 2021

People still use Arctic Silver? That was the shit here in Finland like 15 years ago and we just moved to pastes like those which are still used today (MX-4, GC-Extreme, NT-H1 etc).

bobbybluz · Jan 20, 2021

Chloe Price said:
People still use Arctic Silver? That was the shit here in Finland like 15 years ago and we just moved to pastes like those which are still used today (MX-4, GC-Extreme, NT-H1 etc).

I still have most of a 7 gram tube of AS5. It's been sitting since I switched to Gelid GC Extreme for my own PC's years ago. AS5 seemed like a good idea nearly two decades ago, not so much today. The stuff dries out and acts like glue in a couple of years.

Ruru · Jan 20, 2021

bobbybluz said:
I still have most of a 7 gram tube of AS5. It's been sitting since I switched to Gelid GC Extreme for my own PC's years ago. AS5 seemed like a good idea nearly two decades ago, not so much today. The stuff dries out and acts like glue in a couple of years.

Didn't it also need a "burn-in" IIRC?

Athlonite · Jan 20, 2021

Durvelle27 said:
I'm not even sure what the crap is on it. Doesn't look like normal time and it's very hard.

It maybe thermal epoxy glue

bobbybluz · Jan 20, 2021

Chloe Price said:
Didn't it also need a "burn-in" IIRC?

Yes, several days. Plus it's also slightly electrically conductive. There are several much better thermal pastes on the market today.

Ruru · Jan 20, 2021

bobbybluz said:
Yes, several days. Plus it's also slightly electrically conductive. There are several much better thermal pastes on the market today.

Yeah, wouldn't get it even for free even 10 years ago.

bobbybluz · Jan 20, 2021

Athlonite said:
It maybe thermal epoxy glue

It comes in two part tubes like epoxies do.

Athlonite · Jan 20, 2021

Chloe Price said:
Didn't it also need a "burn-in" IIRC?

yes and no just daily usage is all you really needed after a week you'd see maybe a 2~5 degree drop in temps

bobbybluz said:
I still have most of a 7 gram tube of AS5. It's been sitting since I switched to Gelid GC Extreme for my own PC's years ago. AS5 seemed like a good idea nearly two decades ago, not so much today. The stuff dries out and acts like glue in a couple of years.

Never had that problem with AS5 but then I used to run the PC for half an hour before removing the HS and using a little twist first and light lift got it off real easy

Ruru · Jan 20, 2021

Well, twisting the heatsink/block should be always done, no matter the TIM. I've heard too many times that a PGA CPU has came with the cooler.. :laugh:

Athlonite · Jan 20, 2021

bobbybluz said:
It comes in two part tubes like epoxies do.

Yes not good if you want to later remove it it's for jobs that require permanent solutions not yearly repastes

bobbybluz · Jan 20, 2021

Athlonite said:
Never had that problem with AS5 but then I used to run the PC for half an hour before removing the HS and using a little twist first and light lift got it off real easy

There were times I was busy and forgot to twist the heatsink, the CPU pulled out of the socket still attached. Old AMD CPU's. Sometimes AS5 would be dried hard as a rock.

Athlonite · Jan 20, 2021

bobbybluz said:
Yes, several days. Plus it's also slightly electrically conductive. There are several much better thermal pastes on the market today.

It is not electrically conductive stop spreading FUD it is however very slightly capacitive

bobbybluz · Jan 20, 2021

Chloe Price said:
Well, twisting the heatsink/block should be always done, no matter the TIM. I've heard too many times that a PGA CPU has came with the cooler..

In a drawer somewhere downstairs I have an AMD Phenom 940 that's still glued to the heatsink with AS5. I have no idea why I keep some of the things I do.

freeagent · Jan 20, 2021

Chloe Price said:
People still use Arctic Silver? That was the shit here in Finland like 15 years ago and we just moved to pastes like those which are still used today (MX-4, GC-Extreme, NT-H1 etc).

Its actually pretty decent stuff, but the application is critical lol. It is like an art it seems with that stuff. Get it wrong and its average or below, get it right and you will swear by it for life lol :laugh:

Athlonite · Jan 20, 2021

bobbybluz said:
Sometimes AS5 would be dried hard as a rock.

Are you sure it's AS5 I've never had it dry out to that sort of stage even after 3 or 4 years of hard usage

freeagent said:
Its actually pretty decent stuff, but the application is critical lol. It is like an art it seems with that stuff. Get it wrong and its average or below, get it right and you will swear by it for life lol

True I always tried to get as thin a layer of it as possible which always works great to much and it's meh as a thermal paste

bobbybluz said:
In a drawer somewhere downstairs I have an AMD Phenom 940 that's still glued to the heatsink with AS5. I have no idea why I keep some of the things I do.

use a hair dryer to heat up the HS and give it a twist and pull it should just come off if it doesn't then maybe it's not AS5

biffzinker · Jan 20, 2021

bobbybluz said:
In a drawer somewhere downstairs I have an AMD Phenom 940 that's still glued to the heatsink with AS5. I have no idea why I keep some of the things I do.

Always seemed to turn dry, and flaky for me. Although one time the Athlon 64/X2 came out stuck to the heatsink.

Caring1 · Jan 20, 2021

Athlonite said:
Are you sure it's AS5 I've never had it dry out to that sort of stage even after 3 or 4 years of hard usage

I've had AS5 go hard in the tube after a year or two as air gets in after it's initial use.

Athlonite · Jan 20, 2021

Caring1 said:
I've had AS5 go hard in the tube after a year or two as air gets in after it's initial use.

Did you not put the lid on it up until last year I had a 10g tube that was 5 years old and was still as good as the day I bought it until I ran out and wasn't prepared to pay $49.95 for another tube now I just use Cooler Master MasterGel Pro which I can get cheaper than the equivalent amount of AS5 and works pretty good aswell

stinger608 · Jan 20, 2021

Durvelle27 said:
Welp acetone did not help

Try WD-40. Amazing what it will take off!

biffzinker · Jan 20, 2021

A new PixelPipes video was just posted looking at PowerVR’s Kyro tile based rendering graphics card.

JustAnEngineer · Jan 20, 2021

There have been lots of good suggestions here. The general rule for chemical solvents is that "like dissolves like". Hydrocarbons like tar dissolve well in light oils (which are simialr but shorter), polar things dissolve well in water, etc. Detergents work by having a hydrocarbon tail that mixes with oils and greases while having a polar end that mixes with water.

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