TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[lexluthermiester]

There are even All-In-One solutions available, although these are incredibly rare & difficult to find. A modified Slocket straight out of the box, which allows you to pair Coppermine compatible BX boards to run Tualatin cores

Ah, that's how it's done! Adapters rock! I've never seen one, would have loved to play with one. By the time the Tualatins came out I had already moved on to Pentium 4 so they were never a real priority...

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Yet another way to mod Tualatin CPU, to be used on a 440BX board. This time by physically modding the actual CPU, rather than using a commercial adapter which is how I would have done.

50% OC is nice!

 

[Trekkie4]

Ah, that's how it's done! Adapters rock! I've never seen one, would have loved to play with one. By the time the Tualatins came out I had already moved on to Pentium 4 so they were never a real priority...


50% OC is nice!

Yup! So, as you can see 440BX rocks! IMHO, one of (if not THE) most versatile chipsets in the history of PC

From what I can tell, my P3B-F falls into that same category, especially with its latest revision number. Possibilities are literally endless, but I honestly don't see the point in pursuing this idea, not with Tualatin prices on the rise & being as difficult to come across. I almost scored a 1,266 model just the other day, but as it turned out, it was already sold to someone else.

 

[DR4G00N]

That was years ago. Go hop on Ebay, let's see what you find..

Pentium 3 1.4GHz in CPUs/Processors for sale | eBay

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Pentium 3 1.3GHz in CPUs/Processors for sale | eBay

www.ebay.com

Non-Tualatin core S360 P3's, sure.

When have Ebay prices been indicative of real world item values? Sure I could list my Maximus III Formula @ $200-250 like the rest of them, but as if anyone would actually buy it for that much.

The only pc components I would consider rare are ES or limited run samples (Ex. Asus Mars). Retail parts are uncommon at most.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Upgraded the RAM on my Glide machine and thought you would love some photos.


Front. The whole bezel (model RJA-52) originally comes from the casing used on my previously posted Athlon machine which currently uses that disco-styled bezel + plexiglass sidepanel. (which looks pretty rad)



Backside. The rest of the case used to house a beefy Barton 2500+ system. I still have most ofthe parts from it except the GPU (some cheap ASUS Radeon 9250) and the NIC. Also noteworthy is that the roof, chassis and panels themselves are from another JNC case, model RJA-DT807.

The whole machine in all its glory, before changing the RAM. Cards pictured: 3dfx Voodoo3 3000 16MB, SB Live 5.1 CT4830, NEC USB 2.0 PCI card and a Realtek RTL8139.

Soyo 6BA + IV. Much better than my long defunct 6VBA133, by being based on the 440BX. I am pretty sure this is just as good as an ABIT BE6-II, which I am still looking for as a replacement to both my defunct Acorp 6VIA81P-133 and Jetway 7BXAN rev2.(or anything ABIT ranging from 440BX to VIA KT133A) Originally came with Wendell caps (that were surprisingly in spec), all were replaced with Rubycon, Panasonic and Sanyo.

Coppermine based Pentium 3 650MHz, SL3XK. Had a pretty noisy Cooler Master fan, which got replaced with a pretty silent Foxconn branded Delta fan from an IBM Netvista I parted out (which might get rebuilt as a ridiculous Coppermine build, featuring no less than a Radeon 9550, WiFi and loads of RAM)

Overview of the machine. The PSU is a pretty solid HKC SZ-430PDR unit w/PPFC. Probably overkill but at least it's temperature-controlled and silent, which is a huge plus.

Maxtor 80GB IDE drive split in 2x40GB partitions.
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POST for both the main BIOS and the HPT366, as well as booting into Win98SE.

An mouse I saved from the bin. It's nice that the scroll wheel is lit blue. USB interface but it's connected via PS/2 to USB adapter to avoid any issues with scarce USB mouse support under both DOS and 9x.

 

[lexluthermiester]

When have Ebay prices been indicative of real world item values?

Fairly frequently actually.

The only pc components I would consider rare are ES or limited run samples (Ex. Asus Mars). Retail parts are uncommon at most.

We have different definitions. No worries. My whole point was that Tualatins can be difficult to find. I mean let's face facts, there are but three listings with those searches. And $65 for a P3-1.4ghz is reasonable, so if Trekkie4 can get one for $40 or $50 is a solid bargain and he should just jump at it...

 

[Trekkie4]

Fairly frequently actually.

We have different definitions. No worries. My whole point was that Tualatins can be difficult to find. I mean let's face facts, there are but three listings with those searches. And $65 for a P3-1.4ghz is reasonable, so if Trekkie4 can get one for $40 or $50 is a solid bargain and he should just jump at it...

Nah, I'll rather spend those $50 elsewhere. Speaking of which, I may have something truly iconic coming up shortly, but unfortunately it is still too early for anything specific. I will advise if & when situation changes

 

[Mr.Scott]

Soyo 6BA + IV. Much better than my long defunct 6VBA133, by being based on the 440BX. I am pretty sure this is just as good as an ABIT BE6-II,

It's not. I have both. BE6-II is the pillar of the overclocking/benchmarking community.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

When have Ebay prices been indicative of real world item values? Sure I could list my Maximus III Formula @ $200-250 like the rest of them, but as if anyone would actually buy it for that much.

The only pc components I would consider rare are ES or limited run samples (Ex. Asus Mars). Retail parts are uncommon at most.

If you filter for Sold listings, you get a pretty good idea. We could argue abut the definition of "rare", however, all damn day.

Yup! So, as you can see 440BX rocks! IMHO, one of (if not THE) most versatile chipsets in the history of PC

From what I can tell, my P3B-F falls into that same category, especially with its latest revision number. Possibilities are literally endless, but I honestly don't see the point in pursuing this idea, not with Tualatin prices on the rise & being as difficult to come across. I almost scored a 1,266 model just the other day, but as it turned out, it was already sold to someone else.

I had BH6 once. It may have gotten recycled...

 

[Trekkie4]

If you filter for Sold listings, you get a pretty good idea. We could argue abut the definition of "rare", however, all damn day.



I had BH6 once. It may have gotten recycled...

That's a shame... I had a BH-6 myself, but I sold it back in 2019 ... it was paired with PII 350.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I had BH6 once. It may have gotten recycled...

THAT is a sad thing...

 

[Ruru]

That wouldn't work anyway. The 440BX chipset was incompatible with the Tualatin cores. You'd need an i815 or i820 chipset based board.

Otherwise, 440BX was AWESOME. I mean back then some boards could have more or less problems, but my Asus P2B (440BX) was a rock solid one.

 

[micropage7]

Upgraded the RAM on my Glide machine and thought you would love some photos.

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Front. The whole bezel (model RJA-52) originally comes from the casing used on my previously posted Athlon machine which currently uses that disco-styled bezel + plexiglass sidepanel. (which looks pretty rad)

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Backside. The rest of the case used to house a beefy Barton 2500+ system. I still have most ofthe parts from it except the GPU (some cheap ASUS Radeon 9250) and the NIC. Also noteworthy is that the roof, chassis and panels themselves are from another JNC case, model RJA-DT807.
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The whole machine in all its glory, before changing the RAM. Cards pictured: 3dfx Voodoo3 3000 16MB, SB Live 5.1 CT4830, NEC USB 2.0 PCI card and a Realtek RTL8139.
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Soyo 6BA + IV. Much better than my long defunct 6VBA133, by being based on the 440BX. I am pretty sure this is just as good as an ABIT BE6-II, which I am still looking for as a replacement to both my defunct Acorp 6VIA81P-133 and Jetway 7BXAN rev2.(or anything ABIT ranging from 440BX to VIA KT133A) Originally came with Wendell caps (that were surprisingly in spec), all were replaced with Rubycon, Panasonic and Sanyo.
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Coppermine based Pentium 3 650MHz, SL3XK. Had a pretty noisy Cooler Master fan, which got replaced with a pretty silent Foxconn branded Delta fan from an IBM Netvista I parted out (which might get rebuilt as a ridiculous Coppermine build, featuring no less than a Radeon 9550, WiFi and loads of RAM)
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Overview of the machine. The PSU is a pretty solid HKC SZ-430PDR unit w/PPFC. Probably overkill but at least it's temperature-controlled and silent, which is a huge plus.
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Maxtor 80GB IDE drive split in 2x40GB partitions.
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POST for both the main BIOS and the HPT366, as well as booting into Win98SE.
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An mouse I saved from the bin. It's nice that the scroll wheel is lit blue. USB interface but it's connected via PS/2 to USB adapter to avoid any issues with scarce USB mouse support under both DOS and 9x.

it just looks like yesterday, and you can keep it for the next 10 years

 

[Splinterdog]

I've just acquired a very nice (2006) HP Compaq DC 5700 Microtower from a customer who was doing a house clearance. Before collecting it I asked them to send a photo in case it was more trouble than it was worth, so imagine my surprise.
It needs a good clean up but is in excellent condition and weighs a ton!
Intel Pentium 4 631 Cedar Mill socket 775 3.0Ghz which is currently running at 2.392Ghz, 160Gb WD SATA and 512Mb DDR2 (now 2GB since I had some lying around) Windows XP Pro Spanish.
Not sure what I'll use it for yet, but I'll enjoy tidying it up and adding a graphics card. I may well leave the OS as it is in case I want to sell it on. Or just add it to the collection
Edit:
PCIe X16 video cards cannot be used on HP Compaq dc5700 Desktop PCs.
When trying to use PCI Express X16 (PCIe X16) video cards on HP Compaq dc5700 Desktop PCs, the following error message appears:
922 - This System only Supports SDVO Add2 in the X16 Slot
Never seen that before!

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Sold today to someone who was looking for exactly this machine!
Much tidier than when it first came in, but not perfect and a tidy profit.

 

[Liquid Cool]

At one time, I owned a dozen or so of the HP Compaq DC 5700 MT's. We used them in our finance office. Although, I didn't purchase them in 2006, I think it was 2008....right before the Stock Market crash.

Never really had any major issues go wrong with any of them. I finally retired the last one in 2019 and it showed zero signs of dying...actually felt kind of bad unplugging the old beast. I ran them with 8GB's of memory, and either WD Velociraptor Enterprise drives or Intel X25-M's, or later Intel 320 Series SSD's and NVS graphics. Either 295's or I upgraded once to the 300 series. Either card could handle our charts in the office without any hassles. We beat the living hell out of those machines day and night.

I looked at the photo Splinterdog put up...ours had the black fan shroud connecting from the front fan to the passive CPU cooler, but didn't have the clear plastic piece that's holding the s-ata power cable. I've never seen that before. Everything else looks the same. Perhaps ours were a later model? I say this because none of our units had Pentium 4's. They came with e6600's that we later upgraded to e8400's(after a BIOS update).

Before posting this...I sat here for a few minutes and thought about repairs on these. Out of all the units, I can only remember replacing one power supply and I'm pretty sure that was it.

Very reliable.

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[framebuffer]

ASUS EN7800GTX "inside/out"

 

[Splinterdog]

At one time, I owned a dozen or so of the HP Compaq DC 5700 MT's. We used them in our finance office. Although, I didn't purchase them in 2006, I think it was 2008....right before the Stock Market crash.

Never really had any major issues go wrong with any of them. I finally retired the last one in 2019 and it showed zero signs of dying...actually felt kind of bad unplugging the old beast. I ran them with 8GB's of memory, and either WD Velociraptor Enterprise drives or Intel X25-M's, or later Intel 320 Series SSD's and NVS graphics. Either 295's or I upgraded once to the 300 series. Either card could handle our charts in the office without any hassles. We beat the living hell out of those machines day and night.

I looked at the photo Splinterdog put up...ours had the black fan shroud connecting from the front fan to the passive CPU cooler, but didn't have the clear plastic piece that's holding the s-ata power cable. I've never seen that before. Everything else looks the same. Perhaps ours were a later model? I say this because none of our units had Pentium 4's. They came with e6600's that we later upgraded to e8400's(after a BIOS update).

Before posting this...I sat here for a few minutes and thought about repairs on these. Out of all the units, I can only remember replacing one power supply and I'm pretty sure that was it.

Very reliable.

Best,

Liquid Cool

Thanks for that!
Practically bombproof would be one way of describing these machines and I was a little sad to see it go. On the other hand, I'm glad it's being put to good use - the buyer's wife has a couple of medical procedure programs that will only run on XP, apparently. Furthermore, the SVDO Add2 issue put me off because it could never be run as a gaming machine.
I'm now asking my wife to contact all her friends again to ask if they have any old PCs lying around, which is how this one came about.
Scrounger? Me?

 

[Robert B]

My very first GF3 Ti 500!!!

Restoring it was quite a challenge but to what extent? Well, ... this is story for another time!

 

[MaxiPro800]

Testing a HD7870 I just did some MLCC repair on (quite messy, but so far it works...?) to check if it still chrashes in 3d games of any kind.


Test rig is an GB H55M-S2V, i3 540 skt1156, 3GB DDR3, Win10 Enterprise (already had it on the HDD), 250GB Seagate SATA II HDD, modified Allied AL-8400BTX PSU.

 

[Ruru]

ASUS EN7800GTX "inside/out"

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Those Silencer coolers were great

 

[lexluthermiester]

Testing a HD7870 I just did some MLCC repair on (quite messy, but so far it works...?) to check if it still chrashes in 3d games of any kind.

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Test rig is an GB H55M-S2V, i3 540 skt1156, 3GB DDR3, Win10 Enterprise (already had it on the HDD), 250GB Seagate SATA II HDD, modified Allied AL-8400BTX PSU.

And the results are?

 

[MaxiPro800]

Well, NFS Hot Pursuit 2 does work fine, for now. I couldn't test the 2010 variant as it was getting late and I am quite worried of running that card with an Deer based PSU of all things.

Not that it can't deliver at least 300-350W of power (I rebuilt it with some of the best parts I could scrounge for the respective platform while maintaining the low heatsinks profile) but the card demands much more in newer games.

I've yet to test it on a UEFI system (I have an AMD A4-3300 board, but the downside is ASRock boards are pretty picky on RAMs and GPUs (the original G41M-VS3 R2.0 I used before this H55M was a literal crashfest, at least with this card and a Q6600 - I feel that a E2180 + GF 9500GT would run just fine on it).

I'll test it on a few more systems (including a pretty interesting ASRock 939N68PV-GLAN) that use DDR2 and 3, and see if there's any artefacting. (I have had cards show false symptoms of artefacting because of broken SMDs)

 

[Trekkie4]

My very first GF3 Ti 500!!!

Restoring it was quite a challenge but to what extent? Well, ... this is story for another time!

Nice! I recently got to play around with Ti200 but I gave it back & swapped for GF2 GTS


Speaking of GF2 GTS, it is now part of my Slot 1 "Adison #3" build. I've made quite a few of changes, updates & tweaks but never got around to document any of them...


Bench test results:

 

[Ruru]

My GF3 Ti 200 OC's between non-Ti and 500 clocks. An Elsa 64MB one.

 

[Trekkie4]

 

[Mr.Scott]

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