TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

lexluthermiester · Nov 12, 2021

Trekkie4 said:
that 8600GTS is a great card!

And it was BITD too! The price was low but the performance was solid.

Ruru · Nov 12, 2021

Tualatin OC'd over 2GHz :eek:

caroline! · Nov 12, 2021

Splinterdog said:
Just curious, how can you play TRII without a graphics card? Or does the mobo have it on-board?

Onboard graphics provided by the 865G chipset aka Intel Extreme Graphics 2, maxes out at 32MB, most games run fine at low resolutions, I had an MX440 in that build but ended up selling it, not a high end card but was good enough to run UT 2k4, return to castle wolfenstein and even doom 3, by the time I had enough money for better hardware I went for a new AMD rig instead of upgrading that Intel because the AGP slot was already obsolete.

onemanhitsquad · Nov 13, 2021

I brought this one out of the boneyard a few years ago , and put it into service for glide stuff and general period games , it's fun fighting to remember how to load older OS's !

Abit VP6 ( recapped ) , 2 x PIII 1ghz + Golden Orbs @1140mhz , Voodoo 5500 AGP , dual boot W2K pro / XP pro , 2 gig Infineon memory , 3 x 18g scsi raid 0 , Creative Sound , Kenwood TrueX 72x cd-rom

and of course the obligatory 21" Sony Trinitron (one owner)

MaxiPro800 · Nov 13, 2021

Another Caspian based laptop freebie. Packard Bell LJ71. Athlon II M300, Radeon HD4570 512MB, 4GB DDR2. Had no drives in it so I just dropped 2x 320GBs and installed 10 Enterprise.

Wondering if a GT130 would work in it, as the GPU is in a removable MXM-A form factor, after all.

seth1911 · Nov 13, 2021

No such old System but ill get a MSI 890 GXM G65 and a FX 8150 in 2 weeks :laugh:

FireFox · Nov 13, 2021

Does anyone knows where can i find the driver for a MSI Ti4800SE-VTD8X?

Trekkie4 · Nov 13, 2021

FireFox said:
Does anyone knows where can i find the driver for a MSI Ti4800SE-VTD8X?

Over at nVidia's official website?

Just about any ForceWare since v4x.xx will do fine ... I personally recommend v43.45. Or if you don't want to play around with it, just go for latest one (v81.85), from the link above.

FireFox · Nov 13, 2021

Trekkie4 said:
Over at nVidia's official website?

Just about any ForceWare since v4x.xx will do fine ... I personally recommend v43.45. Or if you don't want to play around with it, just go for latest one (v81.85), from the link above.

I am on my way home as soon as i arrive i will give a try, only thing i hope it works with W7

agent_x007 · Nov 13, 2021

FireFox said:
I am on my way home as soon as i arrive i will give a try, only thing i hope it works with W7

Don't ask for impossible, 4800SE doesn't support DX9 (which is the the basic requirement of Win7, along with WHQL driver).
Driver from 2005 doesn't have WHQL, so it's installation may not be possible (but VGA Generic driver in Win7 may take care of your card for higher monitor resolutions [?]).
On top of that, Win7 doesn't really like many DX6/7 benchmarks (must be patched/ran in compatibility mode to work), so you may be stuck on weird errors for a while.
For AGP Win7, you are way better off with Radeon 9000 series or newer, or GF6/7 series (out of those I recommend ATI card with Catalyst 9.1/9.3 driver).

Trekkie4 · Nov 13, 2021

FireFox said:
I am on my way home as soon as i arrive i will give a try, only thing i hope it works with W7

Nope, this one won't... I assumed that you need Windows 9x/ME driver ... let's face it, most of us who run GF4 cards will run either Win9x or Win2k/XP configuration. You can try with v97.78 which would be (from what I remember) the latest Win2000/XP driver for legacy nVidia cards such as GF4. But otherwise I would have to agree with @agent_x007 above (and below) ... this is a really, REALLY bad idea.

agent_x007 said:
Don't ask for impossible, 4800SE doesn't support DX9 (which is the the basic requirement of Win7, along with WHQL driver).
Driver from 2005 doesn't have WHQL, so it's installation may not be possible (but VGA Generic driver in Win7 may take care of your card for higher monitor resolutions [?]).
On top of that, Win7 doesn't really like many DX6/7 benchmarks (must be patched/ran in compatibility mode to work), so you may be stuck on weird errors for a while.
For AGP Win7, you are way better off with Radeon 9000 series or newer, or GF6/7 series (out of those I recommend ATI card with Catalyst 9.1/9.3 driver).

True! Fifth generation (sometimes referred to as GeForce5 or officially "FX 5000 Series") was the first card to introduce DirectX 9 hardware support.

And I also agree on the recommendation list ... Radeon 9000, GF6/7 and similar cards are far more appropriate choice for Windows 7. And even THOSE will struggle to keep up with even the basic operations. Personally, I wouldn't run Win7 with anything below Radeon X1550 or GeForce 6 (PCIe) ... That being said, you're welcome to give it a try of course :toast:

Ruru · Nov 13, 2021

If it's for XP gaming, I'd go for 71.89. I remember those being great on my Ti 4200-8x back in the day.

Trekkie4 · Nov 13, 2021

Jill Christine Valentine said:
If it's for XP gaming, I'd go for 71.89. I remember those being great on my Ti 4200-8x back in the day.

Right, pretty much all the versions from 70 and above are more than adequate for Win2k/XP. I can even upload my own copy of v97.78 which is part of "emergency driver kit" on a home-made CD. But he specifically asked for Windows 7, which (IMHO) is going to be an issue.

Ruru · Nov 13, 2021

Trekkie4 said:
Right, pretty much all the versions from 70 and above are more than adequate for Win2k/XP. I can even upload my own copy of v97.78 which is part of "emergency driver kit" on a home-made CD. But he specifically asked for Windows 7, which (IMHO) is going to be an issue.

Yeah, I'd go with a newer card for Win7. At least with DX9 support like GF FX or Radeon 9500 and above.

onemanhitsquad · Nov 13, 2021

another oldie but goldie ...it is easier for me to assemble parts into systems and then cases than it is to store them in boxes !

Abit BE6 i440BX , PIII 700 flip chip on Abit Slotket slot 1 adapter, Voodoo 3 3500TV , I forget the mem , creative sound

*** the i440BX north bridge was an overclockers dream...this picture shows 1 memory clip not quite set , it has been corrected!

Trekkie4 · Nov 13, 2021

onemanhitsquad said:
another oldie but goldie ...it is easier for me to assemble parts into systems and then cases than it is to store them in boxes !

Abit BE6 i440BX , PIII 700 flip chip on Abit Slotket slot 1 adapter, Voodoo 3 3500TV , I forget the mem , creative sound

*** the i440BX north bridge was a overclockers dream...this picture shows 1 memory clip not quite set , it has been corrected!

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Welcome to TPU Nostalgic Hardware community, that's a beautiful setup! :toast:

It amazes me how many people still have fully preserved Slot 1 (or Slot A) systems in perfect condition! I could argue about the case color choice, and claim how Slot 1 doesn't fit inside modern, black case but since I've done it myself and even had several Pentium II setups inside modern-day Coolermasters, I'm just going to shut up & enjoy the view

agent_x007 · Nov 13, 2021

Jill Christine Valentine said:
Yeah, I'd go with a newer card for Win7. At least with DX9 support like GF FX or Radeon 9500 and above.

GF FX series driver is VERY broken on Vista/7, DO NOT try to use FX series on newer than WinXP M$ OS if you can help it.
There is only one out there, and it feels like NV made it to tick "WHQL" box and keep M$ happy with DX9 GPU support on Vista/7.

Ruru · Nov 13, 2021

agent_x007 said:
GF FX series driver is VERY broken on Vista/7, DO NOT try to use it if you can help it.
There is only one out there, and it feels like NV made it to tick "WHQL" box and keep M$ happy with DX9 GPU support on Vista/7.

I have to admit that I haven't actually ever tried Vista/7 with a FX card but I thought that it's somewhat working. I guess not.

onemanhitsquad · Nov 13, 2021

Trekkie4 said:
Welcome to TPU Nostalgic Hardware community, that's a beautiful setup!

It amazes me how many people still have fully preserved Slot 1 (or Slot A) systems in perfect condition! I could argue about the case color choice, and claim how Slot 1 doesn't fit inside modern, black case but since I've done it myself and even had several Pentium II setups inside modern-day Coolermasters, I'm just going to shut up & enjoy the view

thanks for the welcome...looks like a fun active thread...and to think that some people say this stuff is junk!

Ruru · Nov 13, 2021

onemanhitsquad said:
another oldie but goldie ...it is easier for me to assemble parts into systems and then cases than it is to store them in boxes !

Abit BE6 i440BX , PIII 700 flip chip on Abit Slotket slot 1 adapter, Voodoo 3 3500TV , I forget the mem , creative sound

*** the i440BX north bridge was an overclockers dream...this picture shows 1 memory clip not quite set , it has been corrected!

View attachment 225012

Amazing cable management for a retro rig. :toast:

Trekkie4 · Nov 13, 2021

agent_x007 said:
GF FX series driver is VERY broken on Vista/7, DO NOT try to use FX series on newer than WinXP M$ OS if you can help it.
There is only one out there, and it feels like NV made it to tick "WHQL" box and keep M$ happy with DX9 GPU support on Vista/7.

Good to know, I had no idea...

Jill Christine Valentine said:
I have to admit that I haven't actually ever tried Vista/7 with a FX card but I thought that it's somewhat working. I guess not.

Exactly, me either. Huh, guess you learn something new every day. But then again, how many ppl are going to run Vista and W7 on legacy hardware such as GF4 or FX Series? Even the modern-day on board solution is miles ahead...

onemanhitsquad said:
thanks for the welcome...looks like a fun active thread...and to think that some people say this stuff is junk!

Exactly! Some people are just hopeless & don't seem to appreciate "vintage" technology :kookoo:

Ruru · Nov 13, 2021

Playing around with that "junk" is more like a hobby for most of us in this thread

onemanhitsquad · Nov 13, 2021

Trekkie4 said:
Welcome to TPU Nostalgic Hardware community, that's a beautiful setup!

It amazes me how many people still have fully preserved Slot 1 (or Slot A) systems in perfect condition! I could argue about the case color choice, and claim how Slot 1 doesn't fit inside modern, black case but since I've done it myself and even had several Pentium II setups inside modern-day Coolermasters, I'm just going to shut up & enjoy the view

I only have one older case left available to use , an Antec P160 , been on the look for some oldish Lian Li's like I had , but availability is rarer than hens teeth or the asking prices are scary.

Ruru · Nov 13, 2021

onemanhitsquad said:
I only have one older case left available to use , an Antec P160 , been on the look for some oldish Lian Li's like I had , but availability is rarer than hens teeth or the asking prices are scary.

That's still a case I'd want, even after all these years. I thought already in the mid-2000s that that's one damn cool looking case.

Trekkie4 · Nov 13, 2021

onemanhitsquad said:
I only have one older case left available to use , an Antec P160 , been on the look for some oldish Lian Li's like I had , but availability is rarer than hens teeth or the asking prices are scary.

I had several black Coolermasters (Elite Series, although I can't seem to remember exact models) laying around, including one Thermaltake V6... However, I just couldn't get used to seeing & running retro build inside modern-day case so eventually I gave them all away and/or rebuilt them using appropriate period-correct beige towers.

My Adison project was one of them, actually. Took me almost 15 years to find what I wanted, but eventually I did :peace:

System Name	4K-gaming / media-PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-A
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 50 / Thermaltake Contac 21
Memory	32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 10GB / RX 6700 XT
Storage	3.3TB of SSDs / several small SSDs
Display(s)	Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS
Case	Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH
Audio Device(s)	Creative Omni BT speaker
Power Supply	EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse	Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s
Keyboard	Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD	Oculus Rift CV1
Software	Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	They run Crysis

Processor	Threadripper 3955WX
Motherboard	M12SWA-TF
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 4U SP3
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3733 (2x8GB)
Video Card(s)	5700XT + 3x RX 590
Storage	A lot
Display(s)	ViewSonic G225fB
Case	Corsair 760T
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply	be quiet! DPP12 1500W
Keyboard	IBM F122
Software	10 LTSC

System Name	Star Platinum
Processor	Intel Core i5-3470 3.20GHz
Motherboard	Gigabyte B75M-D3H
Cooling	EKL
Memory	16GB DDR3-1600
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX650 1GB GDDR5
Storage	2x Seagate ST31000340NS 1TB SATA II
Display(s)	Samsung 43 inch
Case	Delux MG760
Audio Device(s)	Realtek High Definition Audio + X-Fi XtremeGamer SB0730
Power Supply	FSP Bluestorm II 500W
Mouse	ASUS RoG Cerberus mouse
Keyboard	Marvo KM400 keyboard
Software	Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809

System Name	nope
Processor	I3 10100F
Motherboard	ATM Gigabyte h410
Cooling	Arctic 12 passive
Memory	ATM Gskill 1x 8GB NT Series (No Heatspreader bling bling garbage, just Black DIMMS)
Video Card(s)	Sapphire HD7770 and EVGA GTX 470 and Zotac GTX 960
Storage	120GB OS SSD, 240GB M2 Sata, 240GB M2 NVME, 300GB HDD, 500GB HDD
Display(s)	Nec EA 241 WM
Case	Coolermaster whatever
Audio Device(s)	Onkyo on TV and Mi Bluetooth on Screen
Power Supply	Super Flower Leadx 550W
Mouse	Steelseries Rival Fnatic
Keyboard	Logitech K270 Wireless
Software	Deepin, BSD and 10 LTSC

Processor	Intel i7 10700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero
Cooling	2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140
Memory	32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s)	EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s)	Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case	Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s)	I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply	Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse	Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard	Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard )
Software	Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	My PC runs FiFA

TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

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System Name	Adison "Open Space" 19
Processor	Intel Pentium II, 350MHz
Motherboard	Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1
Cooling	SECC Cartridge
Memory	1x 64MB, PC100
Video Card(s)	ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB
Storage	BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB
Display(s)	LG StudioWorks 57M
Case	Adison Midi Tower, ATX
Audio Device(s)	Creative SoundBlaster 128
Power Supply	Codegen 300W
Mouse	Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Keyboard	Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Software	Microsoft Windows 98

System Name	BOX
Processor	Core i7 6950X @ 4,26GHz (1,28V)
Motherboard	X99 SOC Champion (BIOS F23c + bifurcation mod)
Cooling	Thermalright Venomous-X + 2x Delta 38mm PWM (Push-Pull)
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 4000MHz CL16 4x8GB (@3240MHz CL12.12.12.24 CR2T @ 1,48V)
Video Card(s)	Titan V (~1650MHz @ 0.77V, HBM2 1GHz, Forced P2 state [OFF])
Storage	WD SN850X 2TB + Samsung EVO 2TB (SATA) + Seagate Exos X20 20TB (4Kn mode)
Display(s)	LG 27GP950-B
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	Motu M4 (audio interface) + ATH-A900Z + Behringer C-1
Power Supply	Seasonic X-760 (760W)
Mouse	Logitech RX-250
Keyboard	HP KB-9970
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64