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[68Olds]

Yes, I know the modal that it is and the rest of the stuff in there, I understand
the Ram is DDR2. The question is would it be possible to put the HP motherboard
in a new case? As it is a Oem Hp Motherboard.

K-meleon was the only one that worked.​

This was a very interesting video about how the PS2 keyboard interface works?

If the HP is actually a D530 it has DDR1 RAM, not DDR2.

The motherboard should fit in a standard ATX/mATX case. The motherboard is most likely mATX with standard mounting holes.

 

[Greenslade]

If the HP is actually a D530 it has DDR1 RAM, not DDR2.

The motherboard should fit in a standard ATX/mATX case. The motherboard is most likely mATX with standard mounting holes.

Thanks for that This is from A HP forum.
HP has its motherboards made to their specifications. Therefore, they are not necessarily the same as retail motherboards. The first thing to consider is the Form Factor; Mini-ITX, MicroATX, or ATX. There are instances where HP will customize its motherboards. This is normally noted in the Motherboard Specifications under the section titled "Form Factor".
Once you have made this determination, you have to make certain that the holes in the motherboard will match the stand-offs in the new case. As I stated, HP has its motherboards made to their specifications. There have been reports of these not matching. This can cause major problems. If the motherboard is not mounted properly on the stand-offs the other parts of the motherboard can come in contact with the case and cause a short. This can not only damage the motherboard but all of the other components, as well!
Another thing to consider is the front connectors, such as the power button and hard drive activity indicator. There have been reports of these not matching. In most instances, the case manufacturers know which motherboards will fit into their cases.
That is the right way you say with Pentium 4 -Processor Speed - 2.8 GH Ran DDR SDRAM like you say DDR1 DDR2 did not come in tell 2007.The

HP Compaq d530 came out in 2003.I will get some ram for it and see what happens. CEX din,t sell that Ram anymore.It is not very cheap no wonder the geezer took it out ​

• 512-MB DDR Synch Dram PC2700 (333-MHz) Non ECC
• The cheapest I can see is a fiver,
• 

 

[GreiverBlade]

oh, i know how hard it is look at the middle row left side (i have a MSI KT6V just for these )

 

[68Olds]

Thanks for that This is from A HP forum.
HP has its motherboards made to their specifications. Therefore, they are not necessarily the same as retail motherboards. The first thing to consider is the Form Factor; Mini-ITX, MicroATX, or ATX. There are instances where HP will customize its motherboards. This is normally noted in the Motherboard Specifications under the section titled "Form Factor".
Once you have made this determination, you have to make certain that the holes in the motherboard will match the stand-offs in the new case. As I stated, HP has its motherboards made to their specifications. There have been reports of these not matching. This can cause major problems. If the motherboard is not mounted properly on the stand-offs the other parts of the motherboard can come in contact with the case and cause a short. This can not only damage the motherboard but all of the other components, as well!
Another thing to consider is the front connectors, such as the power button and hard drive activity indicator. There have been reports of these not matching. In most instances, the case manufacturers know which motherboards will fit into their cases.
That is the right way you say with Pentium 4 -Processor Speed - 2.8 GH Ran DDR SDRAM like you say DDR1 DDR2 did not come in tell 2007.The

HP Compaq d530 came out in 2003.I will get some ram for it and see what happens. CEX din,t sell that Ram anymore.It is not very cheap no wonder the geezer took it out ​

• 512-MB DDR Synch Dram PC2700 (333-MHz) Non ECC
• The cheapest I can see is a fiver,
• View attachment 252969

During the time this PC was manufactured, HP had Asus build some of their motherboards. They were not proprietary, they just had the Asus model # with -LA or -LE tacked to the end of the Asus model. Those will fit and ATX case without a problem & were very nice hardware. Take a closer look at the motherboard in your HP & see if you can find a make & model number.
Also, post in the Techpowerup sales section...
[WTB][UK]Looking for DDR1 RAM.
There are many members here in the UK even if there aren't a lot in the old hardware club.

 

[Greenslade]

During the time this PC was manufactured, HP had Asus build some of their motherboards. They were not proprietary, they just had the Asus model # with -LA or -LE tacked to the end of the Asus model. Those will fit and ATX case without a problem & were very nice hardware. Take a closer look at the motherboard in your HP & see if you can find a make & model number.
Also, post in the Techpowerup sales section...
[WTB][UK]Looking for DDR1 RAM.
There are many members here in the UK even if there aren't a lot in the old hardware club.

Thanks once again for all your help. There is a Hp sticker over what could be the board number I will have a look tomorrow.I will take a look in the sales section on here, Over than that, I will have to pay a fiver for a stick of 512 Ram..Glad I got the PC sorted with XP that is.The big challenge will
be to get ME or 2000 on there. What do you think if those two PS2 keyboards i put on here?
Or should o go for this modern new one? £12 used like new from Amazon?
Or this Reto one £10 opened never used. this one

PS2 Computer Keyboard Model: TS-K800 108 KEY Black / Silver. PS/2 port £10​

Right-Tec PS/2 PS2 Old Connector Multimedia Full Size Qwerty Keyboard - RTK2708r t £8 They a few of these on eBAT.

Perixx PERIBOARD-409P Wired PS2 Mini Keyboard, Black, UK Layout

 

[Audioave10]

The Voodoo Banshee...

 

[GreiverBlade]

Thanks once again for all your help. There is a Hp sticker over what could be the board number I will have a look tomorrow.I will take a look in the sales section on here, Over than that, I will have to pay a fiver for a stick of 512 Ram..Glad I got the PC sorted with XP that is.The big challenge will
be to get ME or 2000 on there. What do you think if those two PS2 keyboards i put on here?
Or should o go for this modern new one? £12 used like new from Amazon?
Or this Reto one £10 opened never used. this one

PS2 Computer Keyboard Model: TS-K800 108 KEY Black / Silver. PS/2 port £10​

Right-Tec PS/2 PS2 Old Connector Multimedia Full Size Qwerty Keyboard - RTK2708r t £8 They a few of these on eBAT.View attachment 252991
View attachment 252990

Perixx PERIBOARD-409P Wired PS2 Mini Keyboard, Black, UK Layout View attachment 252987​

the last one is yummy .... (once you go 65% compact you never go back, tho that one is slightly taller than 65% like my main keyboard )

as for me i have an old Compaq PS/2 keyboard for that
i need to find it back but iirc it was a Mitsumi like that one

 

[Greenslade]

the last one is yummy .... (once you go 65% compact you never go back, tho that one is slightly taller than 65% like my main keyboard )

as for me i have an old Compaq PS/2 keyboard for that
i need to find it back but iirc it was a Mitsumi like that one
View attachment 253018

So you don,t think I should go for one of those Retro ones then? I do have two of the smaller-sized ones. One is the Apple magic one, god knows why they call it magic, there is nothing magic about it I do like it though. The only thing i don,t like about it is, that the Keyboard Covers are very pricey, and hard to get one that is the same as my 2017 one, I am not paying nearly £10 just for a cover.
The Keyboard Cover I am using now cost less than than half that price.
And this one is a nice keyboard but it is a pain to keep on having to take the small dongle out of my Dell PC.That's why I want one for my Retro PC and want a PS2 modal.

TECKNET 2.4G Wireless Keyboard

 

[GreiverBlade]

So you don,t think I should go for one of those Retro ones then? I do have two of the smaller-sized ones. One is the Apple magic one, god knows why they call it magic, there is nothing magic about it I do like it though. The only thing i don,t like about it is, that the Keyboard Covers are very pricey, and hard to get one that is the same as my 2017 one, I am not paying nearly £10 just for a cover.
The Keyboard Cover I am using now cost less than than half that price.
And this one is a nice keyboard but it is a pain to keep on having to take the small dongle out of my Dell PC.That's why I want one for my Retro PC and want a PS2 modal.

TECKNET 2.4G Wireless Keyboard View attachment 253036​

you could also try to find one like i posted above but the compact you posted use PS/2 interface thus, it's a retro for me, with a "modern" twist

 

[Greenslade]

you could also try to find one like i posted above but the compact you posted use PS/2 interface thus, it's a retro for me, with a "modern" twist

And here is a classic keyboard by our old friend Linus with a jacket on for the first time,

I have never liked those full-sized Keyboards, it is probably because the ones I had were cheap and crap. What do you think of this one ,Compaq 9009 PS2 Keyboard Purple Desktop PC opened as new £10

 

[GreiverBlade]

And here is a classic keyboard by our old friend Linus with a jacket on for the first time,

I have never liked those full-sized Keyboards, it is probably is because the ones I had were cheap and crap. You get what you pay for.

the IBM Model M is a legend ahah!
it had very interesting switches Buckling-spring, Dome-switch

well the Mitsumi Compaq use what i like to call "Memchanical" since it use a membrane and a spring (and had a tactile feel like a mech) iirc the term got re used recently in some cheap keyboard (my Razer Tartarus V2 also use that kind of switches )

@Greenslade the Compaq you list above is a nice, standard one, iirc it's a full membrane but still a good retro (let say P4 era) i prefer my beige tho (that's about the only time i like brown/beige ... in RETRO )

 

[Greenslade]

During the time this PC was manufactured, HP had Asus build some of their motherboards. They were not proprietary, they just had the Asus model # with -LA or -LE tacked to the end of the Asus model. Those will fit and ATX case without a problem & were very nice hardware. Take a closer look at the motherboard in your HP & see if you can find a make & model number.
Also, post in the Techpowerup sales section...
[WTB][UK]Looking for DDR1 RAM.
There are many members here in the UK even if there aren't a lot in the old hardware club.

You are right in what you say, I tried to get the HP stickers off but they were stuck in too good.
HP Compaq D530 Socket 478 Motherboard With Tray 305374-001 323091-001 qhat do they mean by Tray?Is that the back plate if the motherboard?Would i have that on mine?
“Brand: HP P/N: 305374-001 Compatible: Compaq D530 Socket Type: Socket 478 Memory Type: DDR ”... R Form facter ATX I will have to get some ram and see if it is working.

 

[Audioave10]

You are right in what you say, I tried to get the HP stickers off but they were stuck in too good.
HP Compaq D530 Socket 478 Motherboard With Tray 305374-001 323091-001 qhat do they mean by Tray?Is that the back plate if the motherboard?Would i have that on mine?
“Brand: HP P/N: 305374-001 Compatible: Compaq D530 Socket Type: Socket 478 Memory Type: DDR ”... R Form facter ATX I will have to get some ram and see if it is working.View attachment 253045

View attachment 253044

They just mean a removable tray that holds the motherboard - you would need to remove that to install it in another case

 

[Valantar]

You are right in what you say, I tried to get the HP stickers off but they were stuck in too good.
HP Compaq D530 Socket 478 Motherboard With Tray 305374-001 323091-001 qhat do they mean by Tray?Is that the back plate if the motherboard?Would i have that on mine?
“Brand: HP P/N: 305374-001 Compatible: Compaq D530 Socket Type: Socket 478 Memory Type: DDR ”... R Form facter ATX I will have to get some ram and see if it is working.View attachment 253045

View attachment 253044

Yes, the "backplate" is a motherboard tray that is meant to slide into and mount to a specific case. It's more a part of the case than a part of the motherboard - it's just removable for ease of installation/servicing (and it seems to hold the I/O shield). If your PC is a D530 and that is for a D530, then the mounting is the same, and most likely your motherboard is the same form factor (which looks like a slightly odd ATX - it's shorter, almost mATX length but ATX width, and has that strange connector on the bottom edge).

 

[Greenslade]

Yes, the "backplate" is a motherboard tray that is meant to slide into and mount to a specific case. It's more a part of the case than a part of the motherboard - it's just removable for ease of installation/servicing (and it seems to hold the I/O shield). If your PC is a D530 and that is for a D530, then the mounting is the same, and most likely your motherboard is the same form factor (which looks like a slightly odd ATX - it's shorter, almost mATX length but ATX width, and has that strange connector on the bottom edge).

Thanks for your info once again It is that modal with the Pentium 4 2.8 it is the base.modal I understand. If that is the case will it mean the mounting holes will not line up with the new ATX case?
I don,t see people transferring HP motherboards to new cases on youtube ,

They just mean a removable tray that holds the motherboard - you would need to remove that to install it in another case

I get you Mine is in a PC that had been chucked out. I just put it on here to confirm it was a 478 socket board which is what our friend 68olds said thanks for explaining

 

[Robert B]

When one is not enough.

20(18 pictured) NOS Western Digital WD1600AAJB Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache IDE / PATA / ATA.

The performance of the WDs is top notch. They are probably single platter and short stroked. Look at that HD Tune graph. Plus 70MB/s for about 75% of the graph. These will fly on a retro system. Tested on a i815EP + Celeron 1000A @1333.

Also 20x NOS Kingston KTH-VL4/64 64MB SIMM 72 60ns. 2x32MB. HP(R) P/N: D4543A

Also 10x NOS Kingston KTH5365/128 128MB PC100 SDRAM. HP(R) P/N: D5367A

This makes me feel like a HW distributor.

 

[MaxiPro800]

oh, i know how hard it is look at the middle row left side (i have a MSI KT6V just for these )

View attachment 252964

That's MIGHTY SPICY of a AGP shelf you have there.
Am I correct in guessing the leftmost Hercules card is the same Radeon 9700 Pro as the one from my Athlon XP build? Bar the RAMsinks of course (mine are blue, yours are... standard aluminium?). That, or it's the 9500 version probably?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Not sure why you'd bother with 160gb hdd's unless they were free or something, sure aren't worth anything now days.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Probably cheap, and less prone to go bad, as I notice most of them are WD Blues, not their original "Caviar SE" versions or whatever they were named at the time. I think I have a 250GB variant in a TSOP modded crystal Xbox 1.4.

If anything, he'd be able to slot some of those in OG Xboxes if he feels like it, the OG Xbox deserves some love for being a Coppermine P3 as well

I almost have 4. Almost, because one of them needs a complete case, DVD-ROM and HDD - the HDD would be the least of my problems (the mainboard that doesn't have a home is a v1.0, chipped as well), and if I'm lucky, I'm pimping it with a Hitachi DVD-RW if I can source every of those parts cheap. I already have a black 1.1 w/ actual modchip (which I'm keeping almost as is, just for posterity and the sake of older times when we didn't know TSOP-flashing was a thing.), the TSOP'd crystal v1.4, and a stock 1.4 I pieced with parts from what was left of the original 1.1's casing. (the 1.1 resides where the 1.0 mainboard once was, and with whatever parts I could salvage from the 1.1's casing, I completed a EvoX modded 1.4 that's been dormant for a lot of time due to missing parts.)

 

[GreiverBlade]

That's MIGHTY SPICY of a AGP shelf you have there.
Am I correct in guessing the leftmost Hercules card is the same Radeon 9700 Pro as the one from my Athlon XP build? Bar the RAMsinks of course (mine are blue, yours are... standard aluminium?). That, or it's the 9500 version probably?

it's the 9700 classic with blue PCB instead of red

the others are a GeForce II GTS, a Kyro 4500 and 4000

also! YES! the IT department dump was a trove


even tho one connector has bent pins it's still a S3 Virge/GX


not sad it's a compaq OEM card rather than a Diamond Stealth3D 2000 with a Virge/325

 

[Greenslade]

the IBM Model M is a legend ahah!
it had very interesting switches Buckling-spring, Dome-switch
View attachment 253042

well the Mitsumi Compaq use what i like to call "Memchanical" since it use a membrane and a spring (and had a tactile feel like a mech) iirc the term got re used recently in some cheap keyboard (my Razer Tartarus V2 also use that kind of switches )

@Greenslade the Compaq you list above is a nice, standard one, iirc it's a full membrane but still a good retro (let say P4 era) i prefer my beige tho (that's about the only time i like brown/beige ... in RETRO )

My Athlon 2400 is the same era as the P 4.

When one is not enough.

20(18 pictured) NOS Western Digital WD1600AAJB Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache IDE / PATA / ATA.

The performance of the WDs is top notch. They are probably single platter and short stroked. Look at that HD Tune graph. Plus 70MB/s for about 75% of the graph. These will fly on a retro system. Tested on a i815EP + Celeron 1000A @1333.

Also 20x NOS Kingston KTH-VL4/64 64MB SIMM 72 60ns. 2x32MB. HP(R) P/N: D4543A

Also 10x NOS Kingston KTH5365/128 128MB PC100 SDRAM. HP(R) P/N: D5367A

This makes me feel like a HW distributor.

During the time this PC was manufactured, HP had Asus build some of their motherboards. They were not proprietary, they just had the Asus model # with -LA or -LE tacked to the end of the Asus model. Those will fit and ATX case without a problem & were very nice hardware. Take a closer look at the motherboard in your HP & see if you can find a make & model number.
Also, post in the Techpowerup sales section...
[WTB][UK]Looking for DDR1 RAM.
There are many members here in the UK even if there aren't a lot in the old hardware club.

*With a TDP of 70 W, the Pentium 4 HT 2.80 consumes typical power levels for a modern PC. Intel's processor supports DDR1 and DDR2 memory*. I have some spare memory DDR2 and low and behold no bleeps I think I will see the thermal paste situation on the CPU and reply with some new paste .

 

[GreiverBlade]

i have the right to laugh?

yaaay 189.99$ spared woohoo!

i moved the sticker on the chip to the back but it had it and was in an antistatic bag, seal intact ... for a OEM you can call that BNIB (brand new in bag?)
still had to open it i like my collection bare naked on shelf (aside the Athlon 64 i have which came also BNIB (brand new in box) sealed and all )

 

[Ruru]

Maybe not the fastest rig for the newest AAA titles, but it's still a sleeper.

 

[Audioave10]

Not really old enough to be here since its about 6 years old but its the first Cherry clone switch available. The Kailh blue switches are
OK I guess. The board has excellent RGB but cheap ABS keycaps, an aluminum top plate that has the entire switch on top of it so it
needs cleaning very often. I haven't used it for a couple of years since its a pain-in-the-butt. Eagle Tech from China...pretty in the dark but that's
about it...

 

[Ruru]

Not really old enough to be here since its about 6 years old but its the first Cherry clone switch available. The Kailh blue switches are
OK I guess. The board has excellent RGB but cheap ABS keycaps, an aluminum top plate that has the entire switch on top of it so it
needs cleaning very often. I haven't used it for a couple of years since its a pain-in-the-butt. Eagle Tech from China...pretty in the dark but that's
about it...

I love the sound of Blue switches especially when I don't have a girl living with me.