TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Mr.Scott]

I'm testing a FX5700 but RT is unable to detect frequencies both with 169.21 and 175.19, but works fine with 71.84, so I thought that ForceWare 1xx broke something with RT
If it's not the case, what could be the issue? I'm using RT 2.24c, clean WinXP SP3 install (OS + intel INF + ForceWare + RT)

Interesting. Works fine here.

 

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Interesting. Works fine here.


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I was using an ASUS FX5700 which must have some sort of locked BIOS or something
Interestingly, with older drivers that allowed RT to detect frequencies, as soon as you move from default there is a huge performance drop (like 15fps instead of 50).

Luckily I had another FX5700 (from MSI) to try and this one worked great

330 is not bad for 4ns DDR1 chips (rated at 250)

 

[Greenslade]

How does this look for £30 for my first build 775.The guy says it is working fine,Funny enough the guy lives in the same area as the person i bought my case from.
I was thinking of getting the 660ti but see that has 2x6 connections ,my Psu only has one 6 pin one.I see the prices have gone up in CEX The 660 was £38 earlier this week. I don,t want to pay more than £30 anyway,If this guy thinks its good that is good enough for me

 

[Robert B]

Got me an SGI O2!!!

Alien stuff inside and outside.

I had to print 10 pages of command lines just to install the IRIX 6.5 and I still got a SWAP Error. *@$&$&@*(#!!###!!!

No worries though. I'll prevail in the end!

Taking it apart was an experience itself not to mention the crappy black ABS plastic portion which is way to easy to damage.

 

[Red_Machine]

Man, I've been lusting after an SGI workstation for years. But, like with most things I'm interested in, I couldn't afford them when they were £200, and I can't afford them now when they're £1k.

 

[Greenslade]

It would be a good match for my E8600 the GTX660 that is all though Phil is using the CTX750 TI

and playing a lot of the games he is using on here.

 

[Canned Noodles]

Got me an SGI O2!!!

Alien stuff inside and outside.

I had to print 10 pages of command lines just to install the IRIX 6.5 and I still got a SWAP Error. *@$&$&@*(#!!###!!!

No worries though. I'll prevail in the end!

Taking it apart was an experience itself not to mention the crappy black ABS plastic portion which is way to easy to damage.

That's AWESOME! Do you know the specs?

 

[80251]

DEC VT320 terminal was released in 1987 and used RS-232c to communicate with the DEC terminal servers/concentrators. I always found it odd that it had a PS/2 style keyboard. One of its uses at my work was to run MASS11, an ancient, clunky, word processing program that was hot garbage in comparison to the contemporary PC's Wordperfect and Word programs that ran under DOS. These terminals cost ~$500 (more like $1500 in today's dollar) and had an ugly orange monochrome text display.

 

[Robert B]

That's AWESOME! Do you know the specs?

R5000 - 200MHz, 384MB RAM, 2x 4GB 7200RPM SCSI HDDs, Toshiba XM-5701B SCSI CD-ROM.

It is very quiet for a machine this age.

 

[lexluthermiester]

How does this look for £30 for my first build 775.The guy says it is working fine,Funny enough the guy lives in the same area as the person i bought my case from.
I was thinking of getting the 660ti but see that has 2x6 connections ,my Psu only has one 6 pin one.I see the prices have gone up in CEX The 660 was £38 earlier this week. I don,t want to pay more than £30 anyway,If this guy thinks its good that is good enough for me

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A GTX670 4GB would the better card. Full XP support as well.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

I can't seem to figure out what this is...

Listed for sale as a Titan X.

"Image may not exactly match product"

 

[lexluthermiester]

I can't seem to figure out what this is...

Listed for sale as a Titan X.

"Image may not exactly match product"

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Keep away from that. If they can't be bothered to post a photo of the card for sale, they likely don't actually have one to sell and it's a scam.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Keep away from that. If they can't be bothered to post a photo of the card for sale, they likely don't actually have one to sell and it's a scam.

Oh, of course . I don't need a Titan X, it just bothers me that I can't find out what it is...

 

[Greenslade]

A GTX670 4GB would the better card. Full XP support as well.

Yes but it has 2 x 6 connectors needed I only have one 6 pin on my .PSU,
So would have to buy a connector. I see one for £25 2Gb could you give me a link for the adapter? To get the extra 6-pin for it.

 

[Magic Cube]

I can't seem to figure out what this is...

Listed for sale as a Titan X.

"Image may not exactly match product"

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Card in picture is 88P5942

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes but it has 2 x 6 connectors needed I only have one 6 pin on my .PSU,
So would have to buy a connector. I see one for £25 2Gb could you give me a link for the adapter? To get the extra 6-pin for it.

Something like the following should work

https://www.amazon.com/DZS-Elec-Extension-Converter-Express/dp/B07H3JWC9C/

A 2GB card would work great for a retro build.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

It would be a good match for my E8600 the GTX660 that is all though Phil is using the CTX750 TI

and playing a lot of the games he is using on here.

Takes me back to this little dude I still have laying around.

Was a great chip in my college years, went with it over Q6600, never came to regret it. Because one of CPU/mobo/RAM went bad sadly, 4 or so years after purchase, before dual vs quad debate came to inevitable resolution in favor of quads. Which took me into another great era of Sandy Bridge

 

[MaxiPro800]

A few more updates.

The case and the EX58-UD5 mobo have arrived. Unsurprisingly, the UD5 board turned out to be absolutely fine. The no boot issue was actually pinpointed to bad RAM sticks. As a test bed, 2x2GB, a GTX 670 and a 700W Raidmax PSU (which is decent, contrary to some of their older units.) were used, and the mobo POST'd just fine.

And finally, I have done a longer test on the Fatal1ty Z68 + i7 2600k combo, in order to test the performance of a stock 775 cooler against the 95W i7 chip. Temps steadily maintained 60-62*C during load, and never higher than 50 during idle. Kinda similar to a Cedar Mill or a Presler, if you ask me.

The unfortunate issue with the ASRock Z68 mainboard is that the last slot (DDR3_B2) has some slightly bent pins that I'm genuinely too afraid to bend back, so as they don't break off. If I ever find a foolproof guide on that, I'll be sure to fix the slot up so I can drop a whopping 32GB (4x8GB) on this mobo.

 

[Greenslade]

Something like the following should work

https://www.amazon.com/DZS-Elec-Extension-Converter-Express/dp/B07H3JWC9C/

A 2GB card would work great for a retro build.

Thanks for that Lex. But I got that wrong the one the guy had for sale
was for the GTX 470, not the GTX 670 I think I will stick with a 6-pin one. I don't want to burn the house down. Either the R9 270 or the GTX 660 2GB or HD7850.

 

[Robert B]

My second 3dfx VooDoo Rush. Adrenaline Rush 3D Jazz Multimedia Inc. I haven't scored a 3dfx card in quite a while so this is as good as it gets!

 

[Greenslade]

Something like the following should work

https://www.amazon.com/DZS-Elec-Extension-Converter-Express/dp/B07H3JWC9C/

A 2GB card would work great for a retro build.

The case that i bought on Facebook last week,The guy could only find seven standoffs will that be enough for a full sized motherboard? I understand there should be nine .MSI 7513

 

[budget_Optiplex]

Been awhile since I've messed around with my retro system due to aggravation getting Windows 98 to work correctly. Today's project revolves around me killing my Trigem Lomita motherboard as a result of flashing a bad BIOS to it's soldered on PLCC32 BIOS chip. I have been using Pheonix BIOS editor to attempt to solve an irritating resource conflict issue I have had on this board by removing the option rom for the i810 chipset integrated video and changing some Plug and Play settings, that seem to have been successful finally. Anyways, I pushed the limits of what I can do with a cheap 30W Weller soldering iron today and it worked.

I cut the legs off the soldered on chip to remove it from the motherboard, then cleaned up the soldering pads and got them ready for a new socket.

I then took a new 3M PLCC32 socket and cut the bottom out of it carefully so I could access the pins from inside the socket, and tinned all the socket legs with solder.

And then with my high powered magnifying eye glasses on and plenty of light, managed to solder each individual socket pin to it's corresponding pad on the motherboard by hand.

Turned out incredibly well, and I was able to flash my modded BIOS into a new SST PLCC32 chip and get system up and running after months of it sitting here with issues. Device conflicts are all gone installing Windows 98 in non ACPI mode and so far system is working nicely. I like it much better then my previous Willamette P4/RDRAM retro system which was simply too fast for many DOS games. Those same games work fine on the P3 though.

It consists of a Trigem Lomita i810 motherboard, a Pentium III-S 1266 Tualatin CPU, 512MB of PC100 memory, EVGA Geforce FX 5200 128MB PCI (bios overclocked) w DVI to HDMI adapter, Sound Blaster Live PCI card, a WD 80GB IDE HDD, Samsung IDE CD-RW drive, a Dell 250W power supply (recapped), in a cheap Rosewill case. I'm running Windows 98 SE, the Nvidia 45.23 driver, and so far it can even play UT2004 acceptably well at 800x600 resolution which looks best on my old Samsung 32" 1360x768 TV/monitor. I must say that so far the DOS sound capabilities of the Live card aren't bad, it sounds far better then the terrible FM emulation done by my previous Ensonig AudioPCI and I'm currently replaying Chasm the Rift and The Incredible Machine.

Here is a picture right before I crashed the BIOS and had to take it all apart.

I lurk here more then I post, but certainly enjoy seeing what everyone else is doing with their 'oldies but goodies'!

 

[Mr.Scott]

Beautiful work you did on the socket.

 

[micropage7]

Been awhile since I've messed around with my retro system due to aggravation getting Windows 98 to work correctly. Today's project revolves around me killing my Trigem Lomita motherboard as a result of flashing a bad BIOS to it's soldered on PLCC32 BIOS chip. I have been using Pheonix BIOS editor to attempt to solve an irritating resource conflict issue I have had on this board by removing the option rom for the i810 chipset integrated video and changing some Plug and Play settings, that seem to have been successful finally. Anyways, I pushed the limits of what I can do with a cheap 30W Weller soldering iron today and it worked.

I cut the legs off the soldered on chip to remove it from the motherboard, then cleaned up the soldering pads and got them ready for a new socket.
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I then took a new 3M PLCC32 socket and cut the bottom out of it carefully so I could access the pins from inside the socket, and tinned all the socket legs with solder.
View attachment 274875

And then with my high powered magnifying eye glasses on and plenty of light, managed to solder each individual socket pin to it's corresponding pad on the motherboard by hand.
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Turned out incredibly well, and I was able to flash my modded BIOS into a new SST PLCC32 chip and get system up and running after months of it sitting here with issues. Device conflicts are all gone installing Windows 98 in non ACPI mode and so far system is working nicely. I like it much better then my previous Willamette P4/RDRAM retro system which was simply too fast for many DOS games. Those same games work fine on the P3 though.

It consists of a Trigem Lomita i810 motherboard, a Pentium III-S 1266 Tualatin CPU, 512MB of PC100 memory, EVGA Geforce FX 5200 128MB PCI (bios overclocked) w DVI to HDMI adapter, Sound Blaster Live PCI card, a WD 80GB IDE HDD, Samsung IDE CD-RW drive, a Dell 250W power supply (recapped), in a cheap Rosewill case. I'm running Windows 98 SE, the Nvidia 45.23 driver, and so far it can even play UT2004 acceptably well at 800x600 resolution which looks best on my old Samsung 32" 1360x768 TV/monitor. I must say that so far the DOS sound capabilities of the Live card aren't bad, it sounds far better then the terrible FM emulation done by my previous Ensonig AudioPCI and I'm currently replaying Chasm the Rift and The Incredible Machine.

Here is a picture right before I crashed the BIOS and had to take it all apart.
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I lurk here more then I post, but certainly enjoy seeing what everyone else is doing with their 'oldies but goodies'!

that's pretty neat

 

[lexluthermiester]

The unfortunate issue with the ASRock Z68 mainboard is that the last slot (DDR3_B2) has some slightly bent pins that I'm genuinely too afraid to bend back, so as they don't break off. If I ever find a foolproof guide on that, I'll be sure to fix the slot up so I can drop a whopping 32GB (4x8GB) on this mobo.

So use the Blue slots. And use 3 x 8GB DIMMs for a total of 24GB. In dual channel you lose 33% of your bandwidth.

Thanks for that Lex. But I got that wrong the one the guy had for sale
was for the GTX 470

Honestly, that's not a bad card, especially for the 15quid they were asking.

The case that i bought on Facebook last week,The guy could only find seven standoffs will that be enough for a full sized motherboard? I understand there should be nine .MSI 7513

You should be fine. Get the corners and the center of the board.

Beautiful work you did on the socket.

Agreed! Excellent soldering job! We can hardly tell it wasn't a factory job.