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lexluthermiester · Jan 31, 2024

Bones said:
Here's my newly aquired "WTF is it" chip.
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Ok, can/have you tested it?

kilo said:
Stepping shows it as a Pentium 4 HT 550

Which stepping though? There's two on that IHS. Weird stuff.

kilo · Jan 31, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Which stepping though? There's two on that IHS. Weird sstuff.

I completely missed that! It seems it is a "wtf is it" chip

MaxiPro800 · Jan 31, 2024

And the 694D build received a new HDD. I'm not sure whether this is an upgrade over the 80GB Maxtor 6Y080P0 installed before but I suppose we'll see in time.

Voodoo Rufus · Jan 31, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
WestmereEP is a much better option.

Why exactly? Haswell runs memory way faster and has a slightly newer architecture, and PCIE 3.0.

lexluthermiester · Jan 31, 2024

Voodoo Rufus said:
Why exactly? Haswell runs memory way faster and has a slightly newer architecture, and PCIE 3.0.

Oops, you're right. I must have been thinking of something else.. @Mr.Scott Sorry about that.

Mr.Scott · Jan 31, 2024

All good bro. :toast:

MSDOS Retro · Feb 1, 2024

Some more hardware i bought today...

Floppy's 1,2MB:

Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D:

Corsair VS350:

Some power cables, IDE roundcable and USB brackets:

Around 50 pieces 720KB Amiga Floppy disks

And there is more on the way....

MaxiPro800 · Feb 1, 2024

Quickly reinstalled XP on the new drive for the dual Coppermine , and got 3dMark01 and 03 running. I did aim for Catalyst 6.2 based Omega drivers though, and I think it's better that I went for the older drivers - 3dMark01 showed quite a bump in score.

I was kinda expecting the low score on 3dMark03 :laugh:

- the CPU tests absolutely ran the P3s into the ground.

68Olds · Feb 1, 2024

MSDOS Retro said:
Some more hardware i bought today...

Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D:
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And there is more on the way....

I bought my Logitech Wingman new many years ago. I used it to play NFS 3, 4 & 5 so that gives some idea to its age. I still have it & still use it for MSFS2020, even though I also have much newer yoke & pedals.

MSDOS Retro · Feb 1, 2024

MaxiPro800 said:
Quickly reinstalled XP on the new drive for the dual Coppermine , and got 3dMark01 and 03 running. I did aim for Catalyst 6.2 based Omega drivers though, and I think it's better that I went for the older drivers - 3dMark01 showed quite a bump in score.

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I was kinda expecting the low score on 3dMark03 - the CPU tests absolutely ran the P3s into the ground.

I need to compare this with my OC-ed Tualatin 1400 that runs over 1600MHz with 6600GT.
I also have an ATI 9800 (dont know the exact model) And i think its in the Pentium 4 HT 3.06GHz machine.

Fouquin · Feb 1, 2024

MSDOS Retro said:
I need to compare this with my OC-ed Tualatin 1400 that runs over 1600MHz with 6600GT.
I also have an ATI 9800 (dont know the exact model) And i think its in the Pentium 4 HT 3.06GHz machine.

High clock Tualatin will take the win all day in 3DM03. But it's not about having the absolute fastest ST performance on those dual-370 systems, more for having flexibility with modern sets of MT aware software.

DR4G00N · Feb 1, 2024

MSDOS Retro said:
Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D:

I've had the Force 3D one for around 15 years (I don't remember exactly), haven't had any problems other than needing to re-grease all the moving parts because of age. TBF I don't use it very often.
The FFB is a bit of a gimmick though IMO at least in some games, good luck trying to land a shot with the stick rocking side to side (Mechwarrior 4).

I might give it a try on some flight sims seems like it'd be pretty nice for those.

Bones · Feb 1, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Ok, can/have you tested it?

Which stepping though? There's two on that IHS. Weird stuff.

I'll probrably get around to that before long.
Mr. Scott had some good info about it so now I know it's a 3.2 Prescott chip instead of it being a 3.4 like it was binned to be originally.

I can't explain the different steppings though, he probrably could but didn't say anything about that.

Voodoo Rufus · Feb 1, 2024

Saw an Abit IN9-32X MAX SLI with OCZ CAS4 DDR2 go for an absolute steal on ebay. Would have been tempting but I just don't need another board. Before that, I saw an IX38 QuadGT also go cheap.

Why?

MSDOS Retro · Feb 1, 2024

Bought a Asus P2B rev1.02 yesterday. Exactly what i want.
FSB 100MHz, 3x ISA.

I hope to receive it Saturday

ASUS P2B (PCB 1.02)

ASUS P2B (PCB 1.02) is a motherboard based on the Intel 440BX (Seattle) chipset. Get specs, BIOS, documentation and more!

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Greenslade · Feb 1, 2024

Voodoo Rufus said:
Saw an Abit IN9-32X MAX SLI with OCZ CAS4 DDR2 go for an absolute steal on ebay. Would have been tempting but I just don't need another board. Before that, I saw an IX38 QuadGT also go cheap.

Why?

I just saw this abit IP35-E Off Limits Motherboard I have no idea if this item is complete or whether it works - it has been used & has been dry stored at least 7 years. It comes in it's original box with various leaflets it is £17,50 worth taking a punt on it?And should i go for ABIT motherboards do you recomend them.?The box looks in good nickand so does the board.

Voodoo Rufus · Feb 1, 2024

Looks like a nice board. I'm the original owner of my own IP35 Pro and it's still bombproof.

Abits were generally regarded as good overclockers and well made, but like most manufacturers they also had ups and downs.

Greenslade · Feb 1, 2024

Voodoo Rufus said:
Looks like a nice board. I'm the original owner of my own IP35 Pro and it's still bombproof.

Abits were generally regarded as good overclockers and well made, but like most manufacturers they also had ups and downs.

Thats what i thought

.I sent an email to the seller asking if comes with the i.o Shield it does not look like it does though.Heres a video by one of our fav youtubers

lexluthermiester · Feb 1, 2024

Greenslade said:
I just saw this abit IP35-E Off Limits Motherboard I have no idea if this item is complete or whether it works - it has been used & has been dry stored at least 7 years. It comes in it's original box with various leaflets it is £17,50 worth taking a punt on it?And should i go for ABIT motherboards do you recomend them.?The box looks in good nickand so does the board.

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Such a great board!!

Greenslade · Feb 1, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Such a great board!!

Did you see any bad caps on there?This is the guys reply about the i/o shield
Thanks for your interest in this item.
Quote. from the seller
*I know virtually nothing about computers so cannot say if it has a i.o. shield ( not even sure what one is!!) - so I think you are probably best to assume it doesn't!
Sorry I can't be more helpful*
Yes i don,t think it does.

And the ones on ebay don,t seem to be for the same modal .They seem to be from the Neverlands

If you say there are no caps going i will give it a punt.I read a good review of it on a retro site.

lexluthermiester · Feb 1, 2024

Greenslade said:
Did you see any bad caps on there?

Nope! Looks good. That board was made after the capacitor plague time-frame.

Greenslade said:
This is the guys reply about the i/o shield
Thanks for your interest in this item.
Quote. from the seller
*I know virtually nothing about computers so cannot say if it has a i.o. shield ( not even sure what one is!!) - so I think you are probably best to assume it doesn't!
Sorry I can't be more helpful*
Yes i don,t think it does. And the ones on ebay don,t seem to be for the same modal .They seem to be from the NeverlandsIf you say there are no caps going i will give it a punt.I read a ggod review of it on a retro site.

For that board, don't worry about the IOShield. It is not required for PC operations. It's mostly a cosmetic thing. I'd go for it! Slap a Core2Quad in it and you'll have a great foundation for a retro XP system!

68Olds · Feb 1, 2024

As Lex says, it's no big deal if it doesn't have the IO shield, but if the board is coming in the original box the IO shield might be in there. Great board for a Core2Dou and pretty good with a Core2Quad.

Mr.Scott · Feb 1, 2024

Voodoo Rufus said:
Saw an Abit IN9-32X MAX SLI with OCZ CAS4 DDR2 go for an absolute steal on ebay. Would have been tempting but I just don't need another board. Before that, I saw an IX38 QuadGT also go cheap.

Why?

Cuz I didn't see em.

Greenslade · Feb 2, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Nope! Look good. That board was made after the capacitor plague time-frame.

For that board, don't worry about the IOShield. It is not required for PC operations. It's mostly a cosmetic thing. I'd go for it! Slap a Core2Quad in it and you'll have a great foundation for a retro XP system!

Yes i realise that about the i/o Shield

I have taken your advice Lex,i have just bought it

That is what i was thinking putting a Core2Quad.

lexluthermiester · Feb 2, 2024

Greenslade said:
Yes i realise that about the i/o Shield I have taken your advice Lex,i have just bought itThat is what i was thinking putting a Core2Quad.

Sweet!

Which C2Q do you have? Or where you going to shop for one?

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