TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[phill]

Well, I just lost my job. 9 years and some flunky in corporate fires me. I did an oil change for a former employee, he was out of work, he brought his own oil and oil filter. I had my lower bay spend 5 minutes draining and exchanging the oil and filter. HR sees it as theft.

So, I have turned off my farm, still have my daily, the i7 3770, and my gamer, Ryzen 2700, crunching but, no more folding, until I find work.

I will make it through this, but it is disappointing.

I'm really sorry to hear this @Arjai That utterly sucks.... Is there anything that you could do to get it over turned? You try and do something nice for someone and get bit back, I don't get this world sometimes....

 

[NastyHabits]

Well, I just lost my job. 9 years and some flunky in corporate fires me. I did an oil change for a former employee, he was out of work, he brought his own oil and oil filter. I had my lower bay spend 5 minutes draining and exchanging the oil and filter. HR sees it as theft.

So, I have turned off my farm, still have my daily, the i7 3770, and my gamer, Ryzen 2700, crunching but, no more folding, until I find work.

I will make it through this, but it is disappointing.

You need to get that story on the news. In this time of Covid-19, that company may find their feet on fire.

@Arjai I agree wholeheartedly with @thebluebumblebee! I'm sure your local paper or TV station would gladly run your story. Your decision of course, but I'd go for it.

 

[stinger608]

So, has anyone heard or talked to Norton since last seen March 2019?

 

[Bow]

Not a word

 

[phill]

So, has anyone heard or talked to Norton since last seen March 2019?

He sent out a mail a little while ago with the members of the WCG team I think @stinger608 saying that things hadn't been great but was hoping to make it back at some point soon but nothing since... I tag him in things as much as I can and PM him every now and again (hopefully not too much) just to see if he'll reply but so far, nothing on the forums for some time I do hope he's well and ok.....

 

[thebluebumblebee]

So, has anyone heard or talked to Norton since last seen March 2019?

He keeps crunching. He keeps Folding. He keeps adding hardware to his farm. To me, that means he's okay, and that he just doesn't have time for forums.

 

[stinger608]

He keeps crunching. He keeps Folding. He keeps adding hardware to his farm. To me, that means he's okay, and that he just doesn't have time for forums.

Yep, I can sure relate to that. I was gone about a year due to unforeseen life issues so it happens.
I know he has continually been crunching and folding but I was more wondering if anyone had talked to him.
From the new moderator thread it seems as though @sneekypeet may have had contact with him early this year.

 

[ChristTheGreat]

dropping the 3600x to 50% for now, as heat coming back! My office temperature goes very high, since I work all day long, closed door (because of kids haha), even if I open window, at 20C outside, not enought to keep this cool. I have a fridge, freezer, server and my main rig!

I'll see if I can get an AC only for the office, as the home AC doesn't reach alot, I have to put fans in the corridor.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I'll see if I can get an AC only for the office

Have you heard of: https://www.mitsubishicomfort.com/

 

[ChristTheGreat]

Have you heard of: https://www.mitsubishicomfort.com/

those ceilling AC? Looks like! I already have a Wall AC 12 000BTU, but could be an upgrade over time. I have place in the attic tou get some tubbing in there. If not, I was thinking of having traps for small fan to lets air moving everywhere

 

[sneekypeet]

Yep, I can sure relate to that. I was gone about a year due to unforeseen life issues so it happens.
I know he has continually been crunching and folding but I was more wondering if anyone had talked to him.
From the new moderator thread it seems as though @sneekypeet may have had contact with him early this year.

Sorry, I did not speak to him, he never replied.

 

[stinger608]

Sorry, I did not speak to him, he never replied.

Well dang. We all have to believe that life has got him busy and just doesn't have time to jump in the forums and is doing well.

 

[sneekypeet]

Well dang. We all have to believe that life has got him busy and just doesn't have time to jump in the forums and is doing well.

Last we talked he was doing well, just work and family needed more attention.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Okay, 80°F temperatures headed my way, so it's time for my summer hiatus.

 

[mstenholm]

Okay, 80°F temperatures headed my way, so it's time for my summer hiatus.

I ride SCC out and then scale down as well. Maybe a GPU and 24+2+16 threads.

 

[phill]

How hot does it usually get for you guys over the summer months??

 

[Lorec]

Actually this is going to be first summer of my 3950x and I dont see it well already
I live in a mansion on last floor.
My room is positioned exactly on suns path from morning to evening.
We get 30+ inside during hottest time in summer...
3950x is already running 82C as is.
thank god r71700 and my xeon run so much cooler.

Btw
I have one EK PE 360 rad for cooling both cpu and gpu.
Would another PE 360/240 help?
I have Inwin 303 case and using two rads is kinda tricky.
Maybe I should change the case altogether?

 

[phill]

@Lorec do you downclock it or even try lowering the volts it uses at all? I get the idea that these Ryzen's seem to like pushing more volts than they need to, just wondered if you'd tried tweaking that at all?? (I'm very sure that you would have....)

As for the cooling side of things, as I'm very sure you know the ambient temp is going to be the key.. If your going to be hitting 30+ without doing much and your at 82C now (what roughly is the ambient temp now??) I can understand the need for adding another rad or two but it will only take it down to at best your ambient temps...

Daft question and it might not be possible but, have you tried the same setup, outside of the case, just on the side?? Maybe it might be worth a test to see if the case you have is very restrictive with the air flow which is possibly why it's so warm as is??

 

[Lorec]

@Lorec do you downclock it or even try lowering the volts it uses at all? I get the idea that these Ryzen's seem to like pushing more volts than they need to, just wondered if you'd tried tweaking that at all?? (I'm very sure that you would have....)

As for the cooling side of things, as I'm very sure you know the ambient temp is going to be the key.. If your going to be hitting 30+ without doing much and your at 82C now (what roughly is the ambient temp now??) I can understand the need for adding another rad or two but it will only take it down to at best your ambient temps...

Daft question and it might not be possible but, have you tried the same setup, outside of the case, just on the side?? Maybe it might be worth a test to see if the case you have is very restrictive with the air flow which is possibly why it's so warm as is??

@phill thanks for whole bunch of good ideas!
I run disabled PBO for sometime already.
tried before a bit offset undervolting... but it didn't seem to work.
Today I got it.
Damn, windows ryzen high performance power plan.
by switching maximum processor state from 100% to 99% I got a nice 3.4Ghz all core while crunching, which makes it @60C and solves my problem.

 

[phill]

I take it that's not in the Ryzen Master software, that's in the Windows Power Management and under additional and then Processor state??

I've tried it with the 3900X but it's not made a bit of difference!! Even put it to balanced as well!!

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Does this help?

In the BIOS setup select the Advanced tab.

Choose AMD CBS.

Choose NBIO Common Options.

Choose System Configuration.

A menu should appear with the following options: Auto, 35W, 45W, 65W.(this was for a 2400G)

From: https://community.amd.com/thread/241138

 

[Lorec]

I take it that's not in the Ryzen Master software, that's in the Windows Power Management and under additional and then Processor state??

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I've tried it with the 3900X but it's not made a bit of difference!! Even put it to balanced as well!!

Yes, thats exactly it!

Please notice core clocks with respective maximum processor state.
Interesting how 99% locks it at 3.4Ghz and 100% lets it run 3.9Ghz while crunching...
guess all those behaviours mainly base on temps, but then windows shows up

Does this help?


From: https://community.amd.com/thread/241138

I will take a look wether I have this option there (I have asus mobo so yeah)

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Found it. Read this post and the following ones that talk about "ECO mode": https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/dang-how-long-has-this-been-going-on.263707/post-4210333

 

[Lorec]

Found it. Read this post and the following ones that talk about "ECO mode": https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/dang-how-long-has-this-been-going-on.263707/post-4210333

ECO mode makes it go bonkers.

In order to use it I need to turn PBO on.
instant 85C...

Using 99% processor power state in windows brings it back to 60C

 

[phill]

I set it to 3150MHz in the Ryzen master software and 0.875vcore, temps regularly hit 75C to 85C crunching and doesn't seem to matter so I'm guessing it's still possibly controlled by the bios more so.. I'm not so sure...

I guess I need some more tweaking to see what I can and can't do with this CPU..... It for me is too high on the temps....

Just tried it again with out my profile set on it, straight to 84C....

Obviously boosting over 4GHz but was dropping I think to try and get the CPU temp under wraps.... I think I'm going to have to have a delve into the bios and see what I can do If I can find the 65w profile that @thebluebumblebee mentioned, I'll give it a go