TSMC 3nm Process Packs 250 Million Transistors Per Square Millimeter

[londiste]

TSMC: Oh, hi, Intel, look what I've got!
Intel: <runs away shouting random nonsense>

This is TSMC's roadmap. Intel's has 5nm in 2023.
Not quite running away.

 

[XiGMAKiD]

Intel's has 5nm in 2023.

Did you mean: Intel's has 5nm in 2033

 

[Imouto]

This is TSMC's roadmap. Intel's has 5nm in 2023.
Not quite running away.

Intel's roadmap is a work of fiction. Names, characters, businesses, places, events and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.

 

[pjl321]

I am not trying to be an Intel fanboy but if you do look at the number of EUV layers, the pitch size, gate size etc then a chip made on Intel's 7nm and then the same chip made on TSMC's N5P would be within silicon lottery of each other. Don't get me wrong, TSMC is well ahead of Intel as 5nm is being mass produced right now and Intel isn't close to this on their 7nm so TSMC and therefore AMD still has the edge and if TSMC can move to 3nm smoothly around the same time as Intel gets 7nm in full swing that would be very impressive but I have heard there are a few things going wrong with 3nm and hurdles to still clear.

 

[midnightoil]

I am not trying to be an Intel fanboy but if you do look at the number of EUV layers, the pitch size, gate size etc then a chip made on Intel's 7nm and then the same chip made on TSMC's N5P would be within silicon lottery of each other. Don't get me wrong, TSMC is well ahead of Intel as 5nm is being mass produced right now and Intel isn't close to this on their 7nm so TSMC and therefore AMD still has the edge and if TSMC can move to 3nm smoothly around the same time as Intel gets 7nm in full swing that would be very impressive but I have heard there are a few things going wrong with 3nm and hurdles to still clear.

Remember, Intel's 10nm looked good on paper too ... and it's the worst node in living memory.

 

[ppn]

But we know that it won't have that density for Gpus at all. N3P is 100Mtr at best. N5P 60 Mtr, considering N7P is barely 40.

 

[$ReaPeR$]

Intel held on to their market lead during the Pentium 4 era using shady techniques like giving steep discounts to OEMs who only shipped products with Intel CPUs (if a OEM shipped products with other CPUs then they would be forced to pay retail prices for Intel CPUs). Intel is still filing appeals on the court case that they lost about this.

I know. They are doing the same thing now. And AMD or any other company for that matter would do the same if they were in the same position. It's basic rules of maintaining market dominance.

 

[mtcn77]

@btarunr please, a TMSC vs. Samsung special. Samsung says Gaafet>Finfet characteristics.