UPDATE:Nvme Health decreasing now with 3% for 5 days

[x4it3n]

Yes I can , it's just 2 weeks old with 2-3 years warranty. Right now I'm gonna fill up my documents for RMA

When you get a new SSD make sure to update the Firmware just in case. But with Samsung, Seagate and Crucial you should be good! I love my 990 Pro and FireCuda 530

 

[hermesa]

When you get a new SSD make sure to update the Firmware just in case. But with Samsung, Seagate and Crucial you should be good! I love my 990 Pro and FireCuda 530

The firmware updates on the samsung made me not buy it ,because I heard about samsung firmware issue that is eating the NVME itself for months.Now I am gonna go with the 990 Pro you suggested me and see how it goes after the firmware update

 

[x4it3n]

The firmware updates on the samsung made me not buy it ,because I heard about samsung firmware issue that is eating the NVME itself for months.Now I am gonna go with the 990 Pro you suggested me and see how it goes after the firmware update

I have 2 FireCuda 530 (1 for my PS5 and 1 for my PC) and a 990 Pro for the PC too, all of them are on the latest firmware and I've never had any issue!
If you're scared the Crucial SN850X is great too!
Ps: if you can get SSDs with a Heatsink because they can definitely get hot! (Not as much as the Gen 5 SSD that can almost grill some sausages with...but still hot haha)

 

[hermesa]

I have 2 FireCuda 530 (1 for my PS5 and 1 for my PC) and a 990 Pro for the PC too, all of them are on the latest firmware and I've never had any issue!
If you're scared the Crucial SN850X is great too!
Ps: if you can get SSDs with a Heatsink because they can definitely get hot! (Not as much as the Gen 5 SSD that can almost grill some sausages with...but still hot haha)

The problem is that there is no firmware updates for this NVME at all.Neither in it's original software app ,neither on their website...

 

[x4it3n]

The problem is that there is no firmware updates for this NVME at all.Neither in it's original software app ,neither on their website...

All the new 990 Pro come with the new firmware and it's perfectly stable and safe. I don't remember having any update at all via their Magician Software but if there is one it should work fine. The 990 Pro is literally the "crème de la crème" of PCIe 4.0 SSDs. Get the Heatsink one it looks amazing too!

 

[Stephen.]

Hmmm well, here are my screen shots for anyone's reference, though it seems my usage is low compared to @hermesa

I've used this since 31st August 2023 as my main OS drive, most files go through here unless I explicitly direct them to a different drive, though initially
before I got the secondary solidigm drive it was a secondary drive. 1 year plus in service.

I've used it since 11th March 2024, this is my secondary drive; I keep all my long-term files here, mostly just reads, the write indicated is when I moved files
from my 1st solidigm drive to this one. 7 months in service.

I've used this since 1st August 2023. It was originally the OS drive and only drive in my system as it was a transition, it contained OS and all my files, currently
it is my second secondary drive I keeps all my miscellaneous files in it. 1 year plus in service.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

WD SN770 are also great drives if you are on a budget. They are often much cheaper than their competitors. They aren't as fast as the Samsung in terms of raw bandwidth but you can check any of TPUs recent SSD reviews where they are always featured in the benchmarks and they are most often one of the top 5 SSDs for many of them due to the excellent controller.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Can you get an RMA ? Honestly get another brand of SSD like Samsung, Seagate or Crucial.
The 990 Pro, FireCuda 530 and SN850X are the best SSDs imo.

The FireCuda 530 uses exactly the same SSD controller as the OPs drive.

 

[hermesa]

Update : Today is 97% health. Didn't downloaded or installed anything since it was 98% Can someone transtale to me what exactly means the underlined in red bottom text ?

So can anyone help me decode what is in here written ? I mean , the upper scale says 98% , but when I point out the red underlined by me scale with the written gigabytes , a info tab jumps out and says that 0.39% out of 700TBW , which I entered as an refference by myself in the software program ? Which one should I believe ?

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

For the purposes of using this drive as storage, trust the health percentage. You are right to RMA this drive.

If it were stuck at 98% for the next few months and you didn't do any user writes, the drive was fine and you just experienced a lot of write amplification (you stored X bytes of data but the drive ended up writing 2X or 3X bytes of data because it was unusually full or not TRIMed in a while).

But your health percentage is still dropping so I agree the drive is a likely dud.

I personally have both a Samsung 980 Pro and a 990 Pro. Both are overkill in terms of speed, get whatever is cheapest for you. Black Friday deals are the best time to buy any SSD.

The Samsung firmware issues are fully fixed at this point. To make sure, after booting into your OS for the first time, install Samsung Magician and either update the firmware or check the firmware version number.

I am 95% sure that by Oct 2024, all Samsung SSDs already have the updated firmware before a customer ever gets their hands on it. My drives, bought in Nov 2023 from Amazon and Newegg, both were fully updated before I got them.

The FireCuda drives and SN850X are all great alternatives as well. I only went with Samsung because of the killer Black Friday prices.

 

[hermesa]

For the purposes of using this drive as storage, trust the health percentage. You are right to RMA this drive.

If it were stuck at 98% for the next few months and you didn't do any user writes, the drive was fine and you just experienced a lot of write amplification (you stored X bytes of data but the drive ended up writing 2X or 3X bytes of data because it was unusually full or not TRIMed in a while).

But your health percentage is still dropping so I agree the drive is a likely dud.

I personally have both a Samsung 980 Pro and a 990 Pro. Both are overkill in terms of speed, get whatever is cheapest for you. Black Friday deals are the best time to buy any SSD.

The Samsung firmware issues are fully fixed at this point. To make sure, after booting into your OS for the first time, install Samsung Magician and either update the firmware or check the firmware version number.

I am 95% sure that by Oct 2024, all Samsung SSDs already have the updated firmware before a customer ever gets their hands on it. My drives, bought in Nov 2023 from Amazon and Newegg, both were fully updated before I got them.

The FireCuda drives and SN850X are all great alternatives as well. I only went with Samsung because of the killer Black Friday prices.

If I give it to RMA , they will replace it with a new one on 100% health probably with the same health problem occuring after the RMA. I think of using it as far as I can and then buy just a new one ... RMA right now will restore me only 3-4% however I lost already and the problem will still persist but only if this SSD is with defect.

 

[nageme]

I wouldn't RMA. Nothing unusual going on so far.

The underlined bit in your screenshot is plain:
700TB * 0.39% = ~2.76TB

The other percentage number, "lifetime", no idea what's it based on. Seems more arbitrary.
Maybe a software interpretation taking into account various SMART stats (could you show the full SMART stats?).

BTW: Screenshots can be cropped (or just Alt-PrtScr + paste + save).

 

[eidairaman1]

As concerned as you are, rma the drive, and buy a totally different 1 and move forward. If anything this appears to be a rocking chair...

 

[freeagent]

One thing that I always do since I started using SSD's is disable the page file.

 

[eidairaman1]

One thing that I always do since I started using SSD's is disable the page file.

If there is a way to allocate it to a spare HD or a cheap SSD, I'd do so. Otherwise I just set it manually so it is not having to rubber band (which automatic does)

 

[Macro Device]

Bought the Samsung drive almost five years ago. Used mainly as a system drive, no abuse. About 30 or so OS reinstalls. Perhaps 600 GB of games installed overall.

This drive was bought during COVID but not sure if that was 2021 or early 2022. I bought it used. Use it as a regular HDD for games, movies, music, my own pet projects etc.

So I'm kinda sure your situation is whacky. If it continues losing health so rapidly then you should ask for RMA/moneyback.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Don't forget Kingston USB drives.

For a moment I read "Klingon USB" drives.

So I bought brand new TeamGroup Cardea A440 1TB NVME 4gen SSD for my pc to run the OS on it + some games and I installed it 2 weeks ago (total 5 days 23 hours on) and the S.M.A.R.T Utility provided by teamgroup website + crystaldisc +harddsik sentinel shows me 98% health status just for 2 weeks of usage when I have only 2800GB written on it for that time.The NVME is rate at about 700 TBW. 2.8TB is around 0.4% of the 700TBW and not the 2% as it says in the softwares utilities I am using and trying to check my health status on the NVME.Should I RMA it , because there is no actual firmware updates available for this drive? It runs on 35C idle , it couldn't be some overheating issue or smth. TRIM is enabled..hmm what else ? Everything seems fine , speeds on the disc are as described , it runs good.I have only 6 unexpected shutdowns and some hours on sleep mode.No errors or something like that.I was filled this disc on 80% and now I released some space up to 50%. What else I can do or should I just RMA it , if it keeps decreasing life that fast ? I know it can be some software displaying bug , but if it's so then it should stay on 98% for long time , and if it decrease more I probably should RMA it ? For example I have Verbatim Vi550 512GB SSD Sata 3 , which I used for OS for 1year+ and did at least 15 windows installations on it + all the many AAA games I play and installed on it every time when I installed a windows , and its 88% health ,which I think it's good.But this one got 2% out of his life for only days

That drive is only 700TBW

CARDEA A440 M.2 PCIe SSD 1TB | TEAMGROUP

Lets you to enjoy the lightning-speed PCIe 4.0 SSD to the fullest

www.teamgroupinc.com

so you should be able to write 639GB per day for 3 years before the warranty expires so about 4.4TB per week, 17TB to 19TB per month.
(edit) oops that drive has 5yr not 3yr warranty. Need to recalculate.
383GB per day for 5 years before the warranty expires so about 2.6TB per week, 10TB to 12TB per month.
The bottom line is your usage pattern is your usage pattern. If your usage exceeds a certain threshold your drive might not last as long.

I would monitor your drive for a few months. As long as you're in the warranty period and haven't exceeded 700TWB you should be able to RMA it if needed.

Increasing your RAM could help alleviate memory swap file usage as well if you are running into RAM constraints.

My choice was between samsung pro or this one , but because I know about the firmware problems and health issue on samsung I chose this one and the result are these...

I think the Samsung firmware issues are resolved now but the apprehension is understandable. I've avoided the SATA based Samsung 970 for the same reasons.

 

[hermesa]

For a moment I read "Klingon USB" drives.


That drive is only 700TBW so you should be able to write 639GB per day for 3 years before the warranty expires so about 4.4TB per week, 17TB to 19TB per month.
(edit) oops that drive has 5yr not 3yr warranty. Need to recalculate.

CARDEA A440 M.2 PCIe SSD 1TB | TEAMGROUP

Lets you to enjoy the lightning-speed PCIe 4.0 SSD to the fullest

www.teamgroupinc.com

I would monitor your drive for a few months. As long as you're in the warranty period and haven't exceeded 700TWB you should be able to RMA it if needed.

Increasing your RAM could help alleviate memory swap file usage as well if you are running into RAM constraints.


I think the Samsung firmware issues are resolved now but the apprehension is understandable. I've avoided the SATA based Samsung 970 for the same reasons.

What do you mean with ''increasing RAM'' ? I have 32 GB of ram , are you talking about the page file size or something ?

 

[A Computer Guy]

What do you mean with ''increasing RAM'' ? I have 32 GB of ram , are you talking about the page file size or something ?

One would think 32GB ram is enough but yes increased page file usage if your RAM isn't enough. I don't think you have anything particular to worry about though. If your drive is functioning properly and your not seeing errors reported in SMART use it for awhile and see what happens.

 

[Vincero]

One would think 32GB ram is enough but yes increased page file usage if your RAM isn't enough. I don't think you have anything particular to worry about though. If your drive is functioning properly and your not seeing errors reported in SMART use it for awhile and see what happens.

Quick sanity check, have you enabled NTFS compression?
It is not a friend of SSDs so disable it / make sure it's not enabled, e.g.:

 

[hermesa]

Quick sanity check, have you enabled NTFS compression?
It is not a friend of SSDs so disable it / make sure it's not enabled, e.g.:

View attachment 366383

Yes , it is disabled on my drive.Also ''Allow files on this drive to have index..'' is disabled too

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

I think the Samsung firmware issues are resolved now but the apprehension is understandable. I've avoided the SATA based Samsung 970 for the same reasons.

I can vouch for the 980 Pro and 990 Pro, I am using both currently and I have kept a eye on the SMART numbers as well as the data written in TB and the drive health. Nothing looks amiss, these drives did ship with the latest firmware.

Because of the timing of how I bought them, the 980 Pro is my OS drive and the 990 Pro is my game and static data drive (completely backwards, I know, but I am not going to reinstall to get the right order just for a AM4 build). The 980 Pro went up to 80-85% full and then I emptied most of the games and data to the newly bought 990 Pro, getting the 980 Pro to 20% full and the 990 Pro to 50% full.

Both drives have TRIM enabled and 10% over provisioning. The (2TB) 980 Pro has 15 TB written and at 99% drive lifespan. The (4TB) 990 Pro has 5.8 TB written and at 100% drive lifespan.

 

[freeagent]

If it helps, I had a Crucial M4 256GB drive die at 98% health. No system would post with it installed..

So you got some life out of it

 

[hermesa]

Well for a day it wrote over 70-80GB for nothing , the pc staying idle...In task manager there are none programs using hard drive.I turned off the PC 1 hour ago at 2.915GB written and after turning on is 2.918GB Something very strange happens here

 

[Marcus L]

Well for a day it wrote over 70-80GB for nothing , the pc staying idle...In task manager there are none programs using hard drive.I turned off the PC 1 hour ago at 2.915GB written and after turning on is 2.918GB Something very strange happens here

That's 300Mb/3Gb?, nothing unusual for an OS drive, you're paranoid, RMA the drive or just use it and and check in every couple of weeks, if it's defective and life span still going down in a months of "NORMAL" use then RMA it but I think you are way overthinking it and have been over using it due to your paranoia, just use the PC as you normally would, stop benching and scanning the drive constantly, also move your pagefile to a standard SSD/HDD or "lock it" to a constant size, aside from that there's no issue I can see apart from you trying to prove that you can hasten the life span of a drive by using it abnormally to write 3TB+ to it in a week