upgrade rtx 4090 for an Rtx 5080

[Calmmo]

Why would you ever want to give up 24gb/16k cores for 16gb/10k cores?

 

[Tomgang]

Keep the card. Vram is a degrade and that means high resolution will properly make 5080 irrelevant faster than 4090. Also 5070 being faster than 4090. If i remember correct, it was with Framegen on and DLSS4 and framegen can multiply FPS. But if we talk raw power 4090 will win.

If power consumption is a problem. Try undervolt the card. That easy save you 100-150 watt with out losing to much performance. I have own 4090 undervolt to 0,925 mv (stock is 1,050 mv) and locked gpu clock down to 2600 mhz from the stock 2775 mhz. That gives me a mionimal performance loss, while saving easy 100 watt and and 150 is not uncommen.

 

[Anth0789]

Not worth the upgrade i think, im staying with my 4090 for now.

 

[Raffles]

I actually thought this was a troll post

If the 5090 is a 4090 x 1.35 then it's very likely a 5080 is going to be a 4090 x 0.675. Perhaps 0.75 at the most.

It's nuts people think a 5080 is going to be more powerful than a 4090, let alone the 5070

 

[iameatingjam]

Have a 4090 , 5090 would be its replacement , also 5080 super or Ti ,if and when , plus if it has 24GB , would be a interesting , time will tell , if you wait 6 months or so , it's not like your missing out with your 4090

I always thought the 5090 would be more expensive ( to what extent I wasn't sure) but as for 5080 I was thinking it would probably be $1000 as it seems people are willing to shell out big bucks for a gpu but not over $1000 unless its absolute best of the best. I wonder if nvidia is now going to test that by showing that if you only want to pay $1000, then you're going to get a significantly inferior product, and maybe ready us for something like 5080 ti. I don't know. Maybe we'll have to wait till next gen for them to try that again ( selling a card that isn't halo for over $1000).

 

[evernessince]

The rtx 5080 should be 75% more more powerful than the 4090/5070, with a TPD of only 360 watt

0% chance the 5080 will be anywhere near 75% faster than a 4090 in for like scenarios. Nvidia's comparison had the 5070 generating fake frames to keep up with the 4090 so expect it's actual raw performance to be significantly less.

 

[Marcus L]

0% chance the 5080 will be anywhere near 75% faster than a 4090 in for like scenarios. Nvidia's comparison had the 5070 generating fake frames to keep up with the 4090 so expect it's actual raw performance to be significantly less.

My 6800 is double a 4090 when I use lossless scaling x4 frames and the 4090 doesn't

 

[adilazimdegilx]

Nvidia is literally just lying by omission at this point. 5070 cant be anywhere near 4090. It'll most likely sit just infront of 4070 TI. And 5080 is no better. It has half the core count of 5090 which was the merit of xx70 class GPUs, so Nvidia is just doing what it couldnt do with 4xxx generation where they tried to lauch a 4070 class card as 4080 12GB but had to cancel due to backlash. This time they are just doing it smarter. It will most likely have even more gap to 5090 than 4080 had against 4090. So it will probably just match 4090.

 

[Zach_01]

hi

i have an rtx 4090 and i am not sure if i want to upgrade to the rtx 5080


I found that the 5070 will be on par with the 4090,

the 5070 have 6144 core and the 5080 have 10752 , 75% more core.

The rtx 5080 should be 75% more more powerful than the 4090/5070, with a TPD of only 360 watt

the 4090 is still ok for my need (1440p gaming) but having something that is 75% more powerful and less power hungry is tempting


the only thing that bother me is the 16 go of ram. why 16 go for a rtx 5080 instead of 32. is 16 go gonna be ok for the future.

Like many others said just wait.
5070=4090 is only with multi Frame-Generation and the game needs to support fully the DLSS4 feature.

Wait for benchmarks and even those take it with a grain of salt if they dont thoroughly examine picture quality, input lag and all shorts of things.
Things got exponentially (even) more difficult for GPU reviewers to provide legit results on all aspects and also for potential users/buyers to make their choice.

Good times...

I guess when a certain (fab) tech gets closer and closer to its limits and computational "demand" keeps growing exponential you go to the easiest available alternative.
AI generation

Yeah they are still on 5nm but dont expect wonders from 2-3nm with the growth rate of graphics minimum demand.
Now that there is an alternative, game devs will take it as far as possible with graphics with a little extra push from nVidia (who calls the shots in market) and many users would want the best graphics.
Its a vicious cycle

 

[Frick]

-Bruh, completely misleading.

What you're going for is "it isn't an outright lie".

I can't really fathom how people, after all these years of more or less unfettered capitalism, can look at a statement about a product made by the CEO of the company selling the product and just accept it as truth. It's not how things work, and it has never been, at least not for a very long time. We all know "The RTX5070 is as fast as the 4090!" refers to very specific scenarios, right? Did cynism skip a generation? Maybe that's it, maybe people who didn't experience the 90's in a formative age didn't learn cynism and sarcasm?

I worked with a guy who was driving a Volvo 244 in a drag race and he beat a Lamborghin Diablo! No follow up questions, a Volvo 244 is faster than a Diablo.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I can't really fathom how people, after all these years of more or less unfettered capitalism, can look at a statement about a product made by the CEO of the company selling the product and just accept it as truth. It's not how things work, and it has never been, at least not for a very long time. We all know "The RTX5070 is as fast as the 4090!" refers to very specific scenarios, right? Did cynism skip a generation? Maybe that's it, maybe people who didn't experience the 90's in a formative age didn't learn cynism and sarcasm?

I worked with a guy who was driving a Volvo 244 in a drag race and he beat a Lamborghin Diablo! No follow up questions, a Volvo 244 is faster than a Diablo.

I guess people forgot this





Still waiting.....

 

[Macro Device]

If I ask to be woken up when a new gen xx80 GPU will at least match the previous gen xx90 GPU I'll be damn sure no one wakes me up.

If you're not trolling then forget about it and only fetch a 5090 if you REALLY need this extra 1/3rd worth of performance. 5080 will be a straight downgrade.

 

[Fokker]

As other have said, keep the 4090. A 5080 is going to be side-grade at best unless you plan on using the Multi Frame Gen. All of their marketing fluff out right now is not even apples to apples comparisons against the 4090 numbers and it's all based off a bunch of fake frames.

 

[cou60]

If I ask to be woken up when a new gen xx80 GPU will at least match the previous gen xx90 GPU I'll be damn sure no one wakes me up.

If you're not trolling then forget about it and only fetch a 5090 if you REALLY need this extra 1/3rd worth of performance. 5080 will be a straight downgrade.

i am not trolling i was mistaken when i though the 5070 was as powerful as the 4090, i will not upgrade for only 35% of performance, i will keep my 4090 like most of you sugest.

But i do beleve the 5080 will be better than the 4090, just not as mush as i hoped

the 1080 beat the 980 Ti, the 2080 beat the 1080 ti(only barely) the 3080 beat the 2080 ti, and the 4080 beat the 3090. i believe the 5080 will a least be on par with the 4090. the 5080 only need to make 25% gain to be on par with the 4090,

 

[Macro Device]

5080 will be better than the 4090

Only in generating fake frames and in AI workloads. Everything else, clear 4090 win.

 

[cou60]

Mass psychosis.

I believe I said in another thread that the average Nvidia consumer is unintelligent at worst, or blissfully misinformed at best.

But this is AMD's fault.

not knowing something doesn't not make someone unintelligent,

i had amd gpu in the past, hd 7950 and rx 290x,

i almost picked the rtx 7900 xtx over the 4090, and for my old 3080, i almost picked an 6800xt but the 6800 xt was out of stock

 

[l1CappYl1]

Keep your card. There's no way the 5080 is going to beat out the 4090 in raw performance. If the 5090 is only ahead by 25-35% and the 5080 is basically half a 5090... Well, you do the math.

Yeah I checked the performance with a YTber showing 5090 getting 29FPS in BM Wukong without DLSS/FG, while I get 21FPS in that exact location, that is like 35% uplift with Full Path Tracing, probably less with rasterized games

I've seen similar and I find the way things have been trending to be absolutely insane. Do games look that much better that even a $2000 dollar card can't pull off more than 30fps at 4k?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Keep your card. There's no way the 5080 is going to beat out the 4090 in raw performance. If the 5090 is only ahead by 25-35% and the 5080 is basically half a 5090... Well, you do the math.

I've seen similar and I find the way things have been trending to be absolutely insane. Do games look that much better that even a $2000 dollar card can't pull off more than 30fps at 4k?

I'd love to be wrong but this is smelling like a Turing generation without the price hikes thankfully.... Although the 5090 got one because they had to make the die gigantic to get any gains.

 

[garrick]

Just wait for reviews i run 480 oc card

 

[Stephen.]

EDIT: And yeah, the 5070 is only as fast as 4090 if you include multi frame generation, plus normal dlss too I believe. Man that statement is going to mislead so many people.....

It's meant to mislead many people so that they buy 50 series

The more you buy, the more you save...

 

[eidairaman1]

It's meant to mislead many people so that they buy 50 series

The more you buy, the more you save...

And if its 4090 it should cost less than the 4090 at launch

 

[l1CappYl1]

i am not trolling i was mistaken when i though the 5070 was as powerful as the 4090, i will not upgrade for only 35% of performance, i will keep my 4090 like most of you sugest.

But i do beleve the 5080 will be better than the 4090, just not as mush as i hoped

the 1080 beat the 980 Ti, the 2080 beat the 1080 ti(only barely) the 3080 beat the 2080 ti, and the 4080 beat the 3090. i believe the 5080 will a least be on par with the 4090. the 5080 only need to make 25% gain to be on par with the 4090,

I think if the 5080 was on par with a 4090 in raster, it would've been priced more aggressively. Looking at the real fps numbers for the 5090, I don't see how the 5080 comes close. I'd guess 55-65% the performance, which would put it behind the 4090. That said, everything is speculation until actual testing is done.

 

[ZoneDymo]

I doubt this being a genuine question

 

[Sound_Card]

I mean, it's not entirely misleading considered, it will do just that IF DLSS MFG is available. It just won't do that arguably... most of the time.

Marketing gonna market lol

I feel like you are slightly misleading on something that is already slightly misleading.

 

[Bomby569]

shouldn't the right answer here be wait and see the independent benchmarks?
way too many opinions