Upgrade to 1080? Would it be worth it?

ItsSoQuiet · Nov 10, 2016

FreedomEclipse said:
@1080 = No

But if you plan on going 1440p or 4k = yes.

Alternatively you can save yourself so cash and get a 1070 and OC that to 1080 speeds, the 1070 is 80% 1080 as they say. a slight overclock would see it perform better than a stock 1080

Any graphs to back that up?

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

Fasz Kalap said:
Any graphs to back that up?

nope.. it ain't happening. look at tpu's own. No way a 'slight' overclock gets it there...

... now if you are maxing out a 1070, it can reach a reference clocked 1080...don't forget, a 1080 can overclock as well and get that 20% right back.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/29.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_STRIX/27.html

ItsSoQuiet · Nov 10, 2016

EarthDog said:
nope.. it ain't happening. look at tpu's own reviews and look what a MAX overclock gains versus the gap (about halfway). no way a 'slight' overclock gets it there...

Bummer =( Was hoping it was true

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

I edited Big time bud... sorry!!!

My want to requote.

Grings · Nov 10, 2016

and a 1070 bought now will most likely have micron gddr5 and not overclock as well as the samsung gddr5 models nvidia got out to reviewers before pulling the old switcheroo..

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

Wasn't there a BIOS update released by NVIDIA to correct that issue?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS701US701&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=new bios micron memory

Grings · Nov 10, 2016

there is a bios fix to stop them being unstable, its still crappy gddr5 that wont overclock anywhere near as well as samsung stuff

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

Only a concern at 4K anyway.

FreedomEclipse · Nov 10, 2016

EarthDog said:
nope.. it ain't happening. look at tpu's own. No way a 'slight' overclock gets it there...

... now if you are maxing out a 1070, it can reach a reference clocked 1080...don't forget, a 1080 can overclock as well and get that 20% right back.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/29.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_STRIX/27.html

Strixx OC'd so badly though i wasnt wrong. (half wrong) its still 1080 speeds for the msi which i am getting. If i got the 1080 chances are i wouldn't of overclocked it anyway.

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

Fasz Kalap said:
Any graphs to back that up?

Valley benchmark

My score OC'd:

Some 1080:

slozomby · Nov 10, 2016

P4-630 said:
Valley benchmark

My score OC'd:

Some 1080:

both bad examples as CPU clock speeds will limit both cards horribly.

my 1080 cpu@4.6 gpu@1987

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

slozomby said:
both bad examples as CPU clock speeds will limit both cards horribly.

I do not fully agree with you, I had a better score than someone with an overclocked i5 6600K.

@slozomby Edit:

With i5 6600K OC'd to 4.4GHz and 1070 OC'd:

My score with i5 6500:

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Nov 10, 2016

P4-630 said:
Valley benchmark

My score OC'd:

Some 1080:

@P4-630 is that @Knoxx29 's 1080 ?

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
@P4-630 is that @Knoxx29 's 1080 ?

yes it is.

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Nov 10, 2016

I would be very interested to see @slozomby v's @Knoxx29 running the bench at the same clocks.

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
I would be very interested to see @slozomby v's @Knoxx29 running the bench at the same clocks.

CPU OC's only help a bit when you got an older CPU.

See the scores here:
One i5 6600K @ 4.4GHz and my i5 6500 at 3.2GHz
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...uld-it-be-worth-it.227477/page-2#post-3552392

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

slozomby said:
both bad examples as CPU clock speeds will limit both cards horribly.

The 2 x Xeon's X5677 were overclocked to 4.5GHz......

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Nov 10, 2016

exactly.
is there such a difference between the 2 systems?

Knoxx 1080 scores 25% lower than sloz in the same bench at almost identical speeds

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
exactly.
is there such a difference between the 2 systems?

Knoxx 1080 scores 25% lower than sloz in the same bench at almost identical speeds

Yeah right...And he's even running 2 of them..
CPU IPC?

Xeons suck in GPU benchmarks?

IDK

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Nov 10, 2016

its 8 real cores across 2 cpus (knoxx runs H/T off) vs 8 threads.

Old (1366) V's New (1151)

Its not much of a graphics bench if it is actually reflecting IPC differences..................more of a system bench than a gpu bench.

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

That's the nature of sli, guys... it needs more horsepower to push the data through. not sure how 2 cpus react compared to a single one.

So don't think it's a bad bench because a cpu comes into play with multiple cards...it's just the nature of the sli/CFx beast.

If it's a 3dmark, just look at the graphics score.

P4-630 · Nov 10, 2016

EarthDog said:
That's the nature of sli

Where do you see they run 2 cards in SLI?
They both run a single 1080 card.

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

Oops... I saw 2 of them thinking it's the card, lol!

Anyway, the point really still stands. ancient (5 gens +) cpu with a modern current flagship gpu= bottleneck on most tests. tough to overcome nearly a 2x IPC difference.

FreedomEclipse said:
Strixx OC'd so badly though i wasnt wrong. (half wrong) its still 1080 speeds for the msi which i am getting. If i got the 1080 chances are i wouldn't of overclocked it anyway.

You are wrong bud. There isnt anything slight about it. 1070s need to be around their ~2050-2100 mhz limit to reach a REFERENCE 1080. it's about max clocks on all since most 1070s overclock to within 50 mhz of each other anyway.

So yea, if you are changing things up and dropping "slight" you are correct.

Please refer to my links in that post. if you need anything cleared up, let me know.

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Nov 10, 2016

Does this have any relevance?
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/8gb-gpu-ram-not-enough-to-handle-titanfall-2.227631/

EarthDog · Nov 10, 2016

I'm sure its relevant to something.... but really have no idea what it has to do with this discussion...?

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