Upgrade to 5900X

[phanbuey]

because: get a 4k monitor with that money. You have 3090 FE

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So instead of upgrading his aging 3700x that is bottlenecking his card at virtually all resolutions (esp lows and 1%) for $350 5900x ($250 or less if he sells the 3700x for at least $100 on eBay), you're saying he should buy a $650-$1000 monitor...

Sure - that too would be a good upgrade, but kind of not the point? It's a good performance per $ regardless of the monitor he's using.

If you're going for the best performance then the 5800x3d for sure. The 5900x is not a bad choice either - cyberpunk is hardly the last game that's going to eat threads for no good reason.

 

[A Computer Guy]

5800X3D

That chart makes the 5800X3D pretty tempting.

 

[GerKNG]

That chart makes the 5800X3D pretty tempting.

I replaced my 12700k with it and there are still ways to overclock and use the curve optimizer which gave me another 3-5% more fps.
If you already have a compatible board it's a nobrainer

 

[A Computer Guy]

I replaced my 12700k with it and there are still ways to overclock and use the curve optimizer which gave me another 3-5% more fps.
If you already have a compatible board it's a nobrainer

What about a lower end card like 6600XT?

 

[GerKNG]

What about a lower end card like 6600XT?

Why not?
The faster the CPU the longer you'll keep it. Maybe even for 5-6 years.

 

[Lei]

you're saying he should buy a $650-$1000 monitor...

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And I said 5800X3D

 

[A Computer Guy]

Why not?
The faster the CPU the longer you'll keep it. Maybe even for 5-6 years.

LOL or in my case maybe 10 to 15.

 

[phanbuey]

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And I said 5800X3D

Nice 60hz freesync panel. I wouldn't recommend that at all for a 3090.

I did too. Either chip is fine - the 5900x is just cheaper and will do the job nicely, (and also sell nicely) -- you know - then he can put that extra $100 to your 4k monitor upgrade lol.

 

[JrRacinFan]

If you held onto that 3700X this long, wait the couple months , little past the 7xxx series launch, see what comes of pricing of current SKU's to save a few dollars.

 

[gffermari]

I replaced my 12700k with it and there are still ways to overclock and use the curve optimizer which gave me another 3-5% more fps.
If you already have a compatible board it's a nobrainer

Did you really replace a 12700K with a 5800X3D?
That’s madness!

Anyway. There’s no point to buy a 5900X if you don’t need the cores.
Actually if you need cores, go for a 5950X.
All the rest should go for the 5800X3D. The difference is massive to ignore it.

 

[Mussels]

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 that I'm running and in all honesty have done zero performance testing on them. I am sure they're capable of more than 3200mhz and potentially tighter timings. I could tinker with this. Anyone know what these might achieve and at what voltage?

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-may look to replicate his settings and check results when I get some time

If they're like any other corsair memory i've seen, they all seem capable of the 3200-3600 range, but will NOT tighten timings.

Only their 8GB sticks had a chance of being samsung ICs - anything hynix (all the 16GB and 32GB sticks) would overclock, but not reduce timings.

Did you really replace a 12700K with a 5800X3D?
That’s madness!

Anyway. There’s no point to buy a 5900X if you don’t need the cores.
Actually if you need cores, go for a 5950X.
All the rest should go for the 5800X3D. The difference is massive to ignore it.

It's expensive, but its a faster CPU for gaming - whats the madness part, if you can afford it?

 

[QuietBob]

What about a lower end card like 6600XT?

Ryzen 3300X vs. 5800X3D: 20 game benchmarks @ 1080p with max settings
But the 6600XT is not a lower end card

 

[Mussels]

Ryzen 3300X vs. 5800X3D: 20 game benchmarks @ 1080p with max settings
But the 6600XT is not a lower end card

Yes it is?

It's the fourth slowest out of the 12 6000XT series cards.
Therefore... it's one of the lower end.


You can argue semantics all you want but the word 'lower' implies it's anything lesser than previously mentioned GPU's, or in the context of modern GPU's series
That doesnt say or mean anything about its performance or features, it's just about it's placement in a product stack.

 

[Assimilator]

I upgraded from a 3600X to a 5900X for no other reason than the higher core count improves my system longevity, as I see nothing interesting in Zen 4 that is making me want to upgrade.

For your use-case, I'd definitely suggest waiting the month or so until Zen 4 releases. At that point not only will you have the possibility to upgrade your whole system, but the price of Zen 3 CPUs will start dropping so that if you do decide to go that route you'll be able to pick up one for less.

 

[freeagent]

More cores is good, but the boost potential of the CPU is awesome in ST. I have my 5600X boosting to 4850, and my 5900X boosting to 5150.

 

[Mussels]

I upgraded from a 3600X to a 5900X for no other reason than the higher core count improves my system longevity, as I see nothing interesting in Zen 4 that is making me want to upgrade.

For your use-case, I'd definitely suggest waiting the month or so until Zen 4 releases. At that point not only will you have the possibility to upgrade your whole system, but the price of Zen 3 CPUs will start dropping so that if you do decide to go that route you'll be able to pick up one for less.

This. A lot of people would benefit from any sales on the 5600x in the next few months, so far only the 5900x has had the price drops - and they've become a lot more popular since that happened

 

[Assimilator]

This. A lot of people would benefit from any sales on the 5600x in the next few months, so far only the 5900x has had the price drops - and they've become a lot more popular since that happened

The prices are stupid due to AMD's stupidity in introducing the 5500/5600/5700X two years after all the other Zen 3 parts, to the point that I could have picked up a brand new 5800X for less than a brand new 5700X. Instead I bought a second-hand 5900X for less than either.

 

[JrRacinFan]

The prices are stupid due to AMD's stupidity in introducing the 5500/5600/5700X two years after all the other Zen 3 parts, to the point that I could have picked up a brand new 5800X for less than a brand new 5700X. Instead I bought a second-hand 5900X for less than either.

Well, here's something you may wanna hear ....

I purchased a 5800X from Amazon and was shipped a 5900X to my door, Amazon error in my favor. This was about a year ago when 5800X was 400 USD and 5900x was 750 USD.

 

[Assimilator]

Well, here's something you may wanna hear ....

I purchased a 5800X from Amazon and was shipped a 5900X to my door, Amazon error in my favor. This was about a year ago when 5800X was 400 USD and 5900x was 750 USD.

I never get that sort of good luck ;_;

 

[Frick]

I never get that sort of good luck ;_;

You also have to be dishonest to keep it.

 

[JrRacinFan]

I'm certain if a friend gave you say $200 you would keep it. Obviously, they gave it to you for a reason.

 

[Chrispy_]

5800X3D for gaming. Don't bother with the 5900X it's not enough of an improvement to justify the cost or effort.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

My Vote would be 5800X3D as well if sticking with AM4.

 

[Mussels]

5800X3D for gaming. Don't bother with the 5900X it's not enough of an improvement to justify the cost or effort.

the 5800x3d costs more than a 5900x
and unless you have a top tier GPU you may not see any benefits over a 5600x


That said, if you want AM4 to last a really long time, a 5800x3d would probably age like a 2700K or 4770K has, and be usable for a decade

 

[Chrispy_]

the 5800x3d costs more than a 5900x
and unless you have a top tier GPU you may not see any benefits over a 5600x


That said, if you want AM4 to last a really long time, a 5800x3d would probably age like a 2700K or 4770K has, and be usable for a decade

OP said they have a 3090FE. It's the exact canditdate for a top-tier gaming CPU.