ViewSonic's XG323-4K-OLED2 brings dual-mode, DisplayPort 2.1 and 140 W USB PD

[Metroid]

Not bad, good for the competition, soon we will see sub 1000 usd with dp 2.1.

 

[JustBenching]

Panel choice is good ( WOLED handles light MUCH better than QD-OLED ) , DP 2.1 is good but pricing is a bit too steep considering LG 32GS95 retails for 1300 bucks .

My 32gs95 just arrived last night. Good monitor, but man I think my LG c2 is better

 

[Bagerklestyne]

I thought paying $500AU for a 32" 4K Smart monitor was a lot, and this would be 4 times that much converted to our currency.

Actually they're 4.5-5x (and other grub moves like not discounting models with cheaper USD prices)

I'm actually weighing up get the MSI MAG variant as I've seen it drop from 2199 to 1650ish (at of all places, JB Hifi)

 

[Chomiq]

My 32gs95 just arrived last night. Good monitor, but man I think my LG c2 is better

Well C2 can't do >120 Hz but for things like movies - sure, C2 will be always better.

 

[Dammeron]

WOLED handles burn in better than QDOLED especially LG and also when best presented like a G4 vs S95D you really got to split hairs and decide which Pro/Cons are more worth your money.... I have Oleds of both types and they are really hard to tell apart with normal content/games.

I do prefer them as well especially LG variants I do have a G8 Oled but I baby it way more than I did my LG C1/G2.

You do realize Samsung and Sony TVs had problems with the image compensation cycle mode that made it not work at all in specific conditions, which was then later fixed with newer firmware? You use old RTings video as a reference, but did not mention about another one made by them 4 months later, when they revised the test results.

WRGB OLED and QD-OLED have similar lifespan and the main difference is that LG panels have better blacks in brighter enviroment and also handle grey scale better, while Samsung ones have higher brightness and "punchier" colours.


The problem with 4K >120Hz monitors (OLED, IPS, or any other) is price - for $1-1,5K You can buy a 65" OLED and even 75" QD LCD (with miniLED FALD!!!), but if it's a PC monitor then ~32" is all You get for that amount of money.

 

[JustBenching]

Well C2 can't do >120 Hz but for things like movies - sure, C2 will be always better.

The c2 also feels much brighter even though it isn't due to the sheer size of the screen.

 

[Chomiq]

The c2 also feels much brighter even though it isn't due to the sheer size of the screen.

It actually is due to the sheer size of the screen. Maximum aperture ratio is higher on the TV of a bigger size, so they can get brighter. This is also why 42" C2's and up with EVO panels aren't as bright as their bigger siblings. Anyway, my daily brightness is set to 190 cd/m2, these OLEDs can maintain something around 250 cd/m2 of full screen brightness without ABL kicking in which is plenty for anyone using the screen indoors with some sort of blinds/curtains.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I was only jesting, but I hope the people who did complain about it, pays up, as now they can get what they've been asking for, for years. As such, they surely saved up for it?

New complaints now, where's a new DP80 GSync hardware module? Where's GSync Ultimate DP80?

 

[Nater]

Literally nothing is allowed to be straight and square these days.

 

[TheLostSwede]

New complaints now, where's a new DP80 GSync hardware module? Where's GSync Ultimate DP80?

You'll have to call Leather Jacket and ask.

Literally nothing is allowed to be straight and square these days.

The stand really looks wonky. I don't know what they were thinking.

It actually is due to the sheer size of the scream.

What flavours do you offer?

 

[Chomiq]

What flavours do you offer?

I'd blame it on autocorrect but I actually typed that in for some reason. Must be the wind!

 

[R00kie]

New complaints now, where's a new DP80 GSync hardware module? Where's GSync Ultimate DP80?

no point for one, when there's literally not a single Nvidia card that supports DP 2.1, let alone at full bandwidth

 

[toooooot]

I love its sharp lines. Good design, average price. We are at qhd oled at ~900 dollars and 4k oled at 1300 average price right now

 

[ARF]

I don’t think anyone who is displeased with pricing on this (or any of the new batch of OLEDs) is also someone who cheers on NVidias pricing. Yes, 1.5 grand is too much for a monitor and yes, whatever NV asks for its halo models is also unreasonable.

I must disagree. The pricing on the monitor is reasonable, while the pricing on the graphics card is much less reasonable (because it is both under engineered and over engineered).
Remember, this product is not for average consumers, it is for high-end, power users, enthusiasts, and content creators / professionals.

 

[Onasi]

Remember, this product is not for average consumers, it is for high-end, power users, enthusiasts, and content creators / professionals.

And a 4090, a Titan class GPU, is what, something made for kids to play Fortnite on? Huh?
Oh, and no, this monitor is absolutely not intended for professionals. No support for hardware calibration, no claims of factory calibration that I can see, no HLG or PQ curve, no shroud - it’s not a monitor any serious color professional would ever use. It’s strictly a consumer model.

 

[ARF]

And a 4090, a Titan class GPU, is what, something made for kids to play Fortnite on? Huh?

For rich ones, that don't understand graphics. Radeon RX 7900 XT is the better choice.

Oh, and no, this monitor is absolutely not intended for professionals. No support for hardware calibration, no claims of factory calibration that I can see, no HLG or PQ curve, no shroud - it’s not a monitor any serious color professional would ever use. It’s strictly a consumer model.

Why would you need the so called "hardware calibration"? What exactly are you going to calibrate?

 

[Upgrayedd]

no point for one, when there's literally not a single Nvidia card that supports DP 2.1, let alone at full bandwidth

Don't we fully expect them to come out later this year, 5000 series? You said that like we're another 4 years out. I bet they announce it with 5000 series along with any other new features.

 

[Dammeron]

no point for one, when there's literally not a single Nvidia card that supports DP 2.1, let alone at full bandwidth

There's not a single consumer GPU card that supports full DP 2.1 80gbps.

 

[Onasi]

Why would you need the so called "hardware calibration"? What exactly are you going to calibrate?

Is this an actual serious question? You do know what display calibration is, right? You understand that professionals need their screens to be as color accurate as possible for the color spaces and tasks they are working on (which differ, by the way, depending on the needs of production) and the best way of achieving it is having displays that have in built capability for calibration? What, you think screens like this are made just for fun?
There is a world of difference between consumer displays and those made specifically for precise color work. I mean, this thing isn’t even PROPERLY 4K. Not as what is required for mastering.

 

[RH92]

My 32gs95 just arrived last night. Good monitor, but man I think my LG c2 is better

Better in which way ? 32GS95 has :

-Better HDR peak brightness throughout the entire range ( 2% to 100% screen ).
-Much better motion clarity due to 240Hz.
-Much better text and overall clarity due to higher PPI and new pixel structure.

The only use case the C2 could be better is for viewing movies etc due to size advantage but yeah other than that i don't see many scenarios the C2 would be a better monitor .

 

[Upgrayedd]

There's not a single consumer GPU card that supports full DP 2.1 80gbps.*Yet*

 

[JustBenching]

Better in which way ? 32GS95 has :

-Better HDR peak brightness throughout the entire range ( 2% to 100% screen ).
-Much better motion clarity due to 240Hz.
-Much better text and overall clarity due to higher PPI and new pixel structure.

The only use case the C2 could be better is for viewing movies etc due to size advantage but yeah other than that i don't see many scenarios the C2 would be a better monitor .

Have you actually tried it? Because besides the motion clarity (when you are hitting 240hz) the other 2 aren't true.

Especially HDR which needs firmware updates anways.

Regarding brightness I think reviewers have done you people a disservice. You don't measure brightness at NITS. It's a useless metric for comparing monitors. You measure it at lumens. The C2 is brighter simply because it's bigger. Putting both at 100% in HDR, I can certainly tell you the C2 will blind you in a dark room. The 32GS will not.

Text is also better on the c2 simply because you can use it without scaling. The 32" can't really be used without scaling cause you simply cant read text, it's too small. And when you use scaling there is some soft shadowing in some letters which the c2 doesn't have

 

[ARF]

There's not a single consumer GPU card that supports full DP 2.1 80gbps.

The Radeon RX 7000 series do support DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20.

Is this an actual serious question? You do know what display calibration is, right? You understand that professionals need their screens to be as color accurate as possible for the color spaces and tasks they are working on (which differ, by the way, depending on the needs of production) and the best way of achieving it is having displays that have in built capability for calibration? What, you think screens like this are made just for fun?
There is a world of difference between consumer displays and those made specifically for precise color work. I mean, this thing isn’t even PROPERLY 4K. Not as what is required for mastering.

Yes, because I argue that it's technically impossible to achieve real-world colours on a monitor with relatively low pixel density, all types of software compression (jpg, mpeg, etc.), and a lack of proper display cables, and existence of DSC.

 

[Onasi]

@ARF
Jessie, what the f**k are you even rambling about? What real life colors? What does any of the nonsense you mentioned has to do with color assembly, color grading, digital mastering, digital-to-print matching, HDR composition and other work that’s actually done on pro-level screens? Did you even look at the monitor I linked? You’ve managed to condense into a single pile DSC, file compression techniques, proper cables (oh god, not this nonsense again), ppi and none of these things have anything to do with the topic at hand.
You are completely clueless, please stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[ARF]

@ARF
Jessie, what the f**k are you even rambling about? What real life colors? What does any of the nonsense you mentioned has to do with color assembly, color grading, digital mastering, digital-to-print matching, HDR composition and other work that’s actually done on pro-level screens? Did you even look at the monitor I linked? You’ve managed to condense into a single pile DSC, file compression techniques, proper cables (oh god, not this nonsense again), ppi and none of these things have anything to do with the topic at hand.
You are completely clueless, please stop embarrassing yourself.

Ok, tell me how the screen-door effect influences your so called "color assembly, color grading, digital mastering, digital-to-print matching, HDR composition"?
I guess you know what the screen-door effect is.

You must be not a master, but god to be able to offset these differences.
Real world means that you should get the colours on the monitor as if it was seen directly with your eyes in front of you, without the monitor.

Also, why do the monitors have different Gamma settings in the menus?
How do you know which Gamma is the most "Accurate".

And what is "accurate" to you?
Have you got enough studies on the human vision capabilities?