Well guys I went ahead and bit the bullet and pre ordered the Oculus Rift CV1, but ship date looks to be around June. Feb 29th the HTC Vive will go on pre order and hopefully it will be around the same price with controllers. If so then I'm going to cancel my rift CV1 order, and get the Vive more than likely. The Rift CV1 is pretty steep at $599, but it comes with an Xbox one controller (I don't need), Head phones (I don't need), a DAC for the headphones (I don't need), a nice carrying case (I don't need), 2x games "Lucky's Tale" and "EVE: Valkyrie", and last but not least another small controller for watching movies and other video content. We still don't know what's going to ship with the Vive, but I believe HTC will have to stay close to the $599 price.. Only because everyone had a fit over the price of the Rift CV1. HTC is counting on this to save their company. I guess we will see.